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I would like to get a discussion going and create an archive of lessons learned using the My4Sons sprayer.  Some of the questions will be specific to the equipment to et the best value from it but some may be just about spraying with any other sprayer.

Here are some areas I hope people will share insights and suggestions about.

1) Which is the best nozzle to get a fine spray and minimize volume of mix used when spraying mango for PM)
2) How to maximize the battery life / charge when spraying - should I use the agitator intermittently or run it continuously?
3) When spraying mango canopy, is it desirable to spray from above (using a long wand) and let the spray fall on the panicle and leaves or spray upwards (from below).  I know with a mister you want the spray form a mist that adheres to the underside and top side of the leaves.  With a liquid spray, especially for PM, what is the objective?

Here are some generic spraying question examples?
1) When spraying for PM management, do you want to spray the entire canopy or the part of the canopy with panicles?  Are you trying to spray the panicles or is the intent to spray the leaves?
2) Will PM transfer from unsprayed parts of the tree to sprayed parts?
3) Is it best to spray 1st thing in the morning with dew on the trees or wait till things are a little dryer, or perhaps spray at dusk

Here are some possibilities on what to spray
1) For mango and for PM control, is there value in alternating what is sprayed (avoiding resistance)
2) What can be alternated with sulfur, safely.  What have you used, what was your your experience like?
3) When you alternate products, do you keep a spray cycle of 6 to 10 days still ?
4) If you have spray left over, do you throw it out or continue to apply spray until the tank is empty (past runoff on the tree)


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Still need help ID’ing this plant
« on: December 25, 2024, 09:58:12 PM »
I don’t recall exactly how I got this plant but my recollection was it was a gift from a friend years ago. 
I am trying to ID the plant.
Some of the pictures include flowers not yet opened and opened.  It has not fruited yet.



       



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / There is a lot of chatter about My4Sons sprayer
« on: December 09, 2024, 09:50:33 PM »
I have seen several posts about My4Sons sprayer of late.
Can any of the folks who own one highlight why this is the sprayer I need for a yard with 20 or so mango trees.

Why not this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QPY6TLL?ref=emc_p_m_5_i_atc&th=1 from Amazon?
Or a few others?

Thinking of getting one and would appreciate the benefit of your insight.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Which atemoya is this
« on: September 24, 2024, 08:09:05 PM »
Can you identify this atemoya?


              

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If you are interested, $0.50 per seed and $5 regular shipping or $10 expedited.

PM me quantity you want and address to ship to.


 

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Had a Hog Plum tree knocked over by wind (again) and I am stumping it (again)
I have lots of cuttings for anyone who want some.  It is free but you have to come get it or pay $2 a stick plus shipping.  Each stick will be 10 to 13 inches long and depending on the thickness, you could get 10 in a priority mail medium box which ships for $18.40.
If you want fewer, I can make the sticks shorter (8 to 10 inches long approximately) and put a few in a small flat rate box, or flat rate envelope which is $10.4 

I understand thick cutting an inch or more across work best so I am making a few of those but if you tell me what you want (up to 2 or 3 inch thickness) I may be able to save you some.
 
US addresses only please - cant do international shipping with these.  No one will be happy.

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I did several grafts this week.  Most were routine grafts to similar size rootstock and were well wrapped.
Two however were bark graft to a very thick stem (I had cut the tree down to about a foot and a half and must be almost two inches across in diameter).  While I wrapped the top and sides, I had intended to also bag the graft.  I did not and it rained.

Is there some way of expelling moisture from the graft?  Would bagging now be a bad choice if it locks in moisture in the graft?  Are there any hacks I should consider or should I just take it down and re-graft taking a few more inches off the stump?

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Got some scions of Hunucma amarilla and grafted to pond apple a few years ago.  Made a couple of fruits which I got to try one this week.  Still trying to make up my mind what I think about this but solidly in I like now with one more tasting to go.  Fore some pictures and musings - see this post
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=54741.msg521473#msg521473

Meanwhile I have some seeds.
Seeds available to ship within the US (or if international by arrangement).
I am asking $2 per seed (fresh seeds).

I only had 2 fruits this year so this batch is it for me for the year.
I don't know or believe these are true to seed and am not making any suggestion they are - mine was grafted.

I anticipate shipping will be $5 or a little less for regular mail and $10 for priority if you cant wait.

If we have done business on the forum, pay only shipping.

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Just got a fruit of Chinese Passion Fruit Melon off my vine and have some seeds.
Seeds available for the continental US only offered at $1 per seed.
I will have more through the season as there are several fruit son the vine.

I anticipate shipping will be $5 or a little less for regular mail and $10 for priority if you cant wait.

If we have done business on the forum, pay only shipping.



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I have two fruit holding on a Hunucma amarilla grafted on pond apple.  They are bagged (see below)
How can you tell when they are ready to pick.  I would very much hate to lose these to racoons or other critters.

There is a picture from Frank's post at the link below of a ripe fruit.  I don't know if this comes off the tree that way or if that is the result of a few days to ripen on the counter.
 
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=21389.msg261301#msg261301

     



           
     


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / My rollinia may not be a rollinia
« on: April 26, 2024, 09:47:28 PM »
I planted some Rollinia from seed, two different batches.
The plants are doing fine. 
One of them however appears to be flowering, the flower looks nothing like a Rollinia flower.  It looks almost like a sugar apple flower.  I will wait to see more flowering before make a final decision.

Can anyone share pictures of their Rollinia flowers here?

 
I have added some pictures.

The white dots on the stem and multiple flowers from the same area suggest perhaps it is, but the shape of the flower suggests perhaps not. 

I am hoping someone can show that the shape of the flower changes as it gets larger.

Thanks


               

I was expecting a flower that looks like the two in the image below (not the fruitlet being showcased but the two flowers in the frame)
(Picture below - credit from this link https://plant.daleysfruit.com.au/l/rollinia-7329.jpeg)



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Dream Atemoya scions - Sale over
« on: March 09, 2024, 10:06:53 AM »
Sale over

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help ID this plant
« on: January 15, 2024, 08:01:17 PM »
Got this plant and 2 others from a friend a few years ago

I placed it in a safe spot and forgot about it.  I happened on it a year or so ago and it had rooted out of the pot so I left it where it was.

Now I need to figure out what it is (no flowers or fruits yet)

           


The trunk in case it helps in IDing the plant.


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I have a couple of spare cuttings of Godzilla and Townsend pink dragon fruit.
$10 a piece plus $10 shipping.

So 2 of each shipped for $50 within the continental USA and if you want one of each shipped, that would be $30.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruiting hunucma
« on: December 12, 2023, 12:30:57 AM »
I saw a small fruit on my grafted hunucma, it had flowered earlier in the years and there appeared to be no fruit set.  Apparently one did set.  It is tiny and will likely drop off but there it is for now.

Has anyone fruited hunucma in Florida and what care if any would maximize the chances of the fruit maturing.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / ended
« on: November 18, 2023, 07:17:50 AM »
Ended



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rabbit discourager
« on: November 11, 2023, 01:05:42 PM »
There are tons of rabbit in my area and around this time of year I often see young plants with the back completely stripped or in some cases gnawed in half.

It has been terrible the last few days and i  have lost at least 6 seedlings (they particularly love Chempajack they eat those to a stump).  They have gone after mango, gnawed a few in half and removed the bark of an in ground 2 year old plant.  In the past they never went after anything that big.

In cases where I wrapped or protected the plant they must have tiptoed and did the damage above the cage.

If there something I can spray on the plants to keep the rabbits away?

Interested in any suggestions other than making them rabbit stew or trapping and relocating There are way too many).





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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Atemoya seedling seeds
« on: September 09, 2023, 08:27:08 PM »
I planted what I believe were AP (African Pride) seeds a few years ago.
One in particular was very different.  The leaves were a little different from the others and its growth was vigorous.  I kept it and fruited it.  The fruit looks like AP.  When I picked it and brought it indoors it cracked and softened in a few days.  I really liked the taste, preferred it to Birula which ripened at the same time.

I will be able to share scions next year.  I have some seeds this year and am happy to send some to anyone who wants a few (10 or 12).  You pay shipping, the seeds are free.
 
By the way I have a few seeds from the Birula ask if you want a few added to the order.  I will add till I run out.

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A friend took this pictures of her Sapodilla.  Can you identify the variety the fruit?


                   


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango allergies - home remedies?
« on: May 30, 2023, 09:37:54 PM »
A friend of mine appears to be allergic to mango.  He got some sap on his arm and broke out in a rash.  Do you know a home remedy that may relieve the itchiness?


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I was under a sweet tart tree and saw a flash of yellow.  It was too small to be a ripened fruit.  On close inspection it was a see hanging from the tree.  Then I saw another.  Something had eaten all the fruit off the seed and the fruit did not fall off the tree.  In the last couple of days I have watched the same thing happening to three more fruit.  Slowly being eaten from the op down while still on the tree.  I had never observed this before, have you seen this and what is the culprit.
I have no clue what an eat the entire fruit without breaking the fruit off the tree.


I added some pictures.  Some completely eaten and a couple in progress.  Whatever it is has targeted one tree and does come back to finish fruits it starts eating.


                             


                   

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I have tried to manage my lychees this past year plus with the mite.  Cut back the tree spayed sulfur repeatedly when there was new growth but fell off the wagon a few months ago.  A friend was visiting a month or so ago and spotted a branch with the tell tale signs.  I removed it and resumes spraying.  While checking the tree today I saw several branches with the tell tale bumps.   I intend to take down the entire canopy and am contemplating just removing the two trees that have the mite.  I have a couple more trees some distance away, I am watching them carefully and hope they stay mite free.

Are there any developments in the search for a good way of managing this pest?  or will I have to keep spraying sulfur every time I see new growth?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help save my Pim Sen Mun
« on: May 28, 2023, 09:30:37 PM »
I have a Pim Sen Mun that had done very well. Fruits well, grows vigorously nice tree.  The problem is I have do not like the fruit much.  I tried it green and I must be doing something wrong (it tasted so so, nothing to rave about).  I tried it ripe and it was full or dark fibers. 

Please let me know if there is a best time to pick this to get its best flavor.  Perhaps green and let ripen, or just coloring on the tree ....

Also if you like this green, what it the key to enjoying it. 

All suggestions welcome.

If I can't get to love the Pim Sen Mun, I could use the space.

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As you all know mango season in Florida in many areas is looking to be a huge success.  I have many trees holding fruit that had not held much in the past and some of my regular producers are holding more fruit than I have seen in past seasons.  Great blessings, yes?

I was out this morning and heard a loud crack.  I didn't know where it came from but was within minutes, informed by the spouse that a branch just fell off one of my mango trees.

I checked and and it wasn't one, but two, and they were small branches but major trunks; laden with mango.  Both had failed at the exact same point and were laying on the ground (though still attached to the tree.  I will cut them off later today. 

I have paid attention to several branches, watching them, and gaging if they could hold the weight, these two were not on my radar.  They were thick branches that should not break under the weight,  What I didn't factor was torque.  Both branches came off the main leader at the same location (it was a single branch that had split into two branches a long time ago and both had grown well) and were being twisted away from each other (not pulled down).  Well, they split.  For the engineers in the room, you might want to think in terms of tensile strength, compressive strength, bending, stiffness, modulus of rupture and elasticity and so on.  For the rest of us , think a force applied across the grain or along the grain.  Had this been the weight pulling down (bending - force perpendicular to the grain), I bet these branches laugh all the way through the season holing on to all the mango.  This force unfortunately was applied along the grain, this is how you split wood because it is easier once you get it started.  The torque essentially pulled the branches apart, starting from where they had split to two branches back in the day. 

So I seem to not be distraught, I am not.  It is a lot of mango to loose but think, perhaps nature was doing what I should have done, pruned the tree and thinned the fruit, so the rest of the fruits will be better.   Now I just need to clean the wound and take care of the rest of the tree, I just wasn't planning to remove about a quarter of the canopy on that one tree..




         

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How can I tell if Seacrest/Triplesec is mature and ready to pick?
Does it turn yellow when ripe inland or does that only happen close to the coast?


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