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So does anyone have a verdict on when to unwrap?

I have some buds pushing growth now- but no method of humidity control otherwise




I unwrapped here because i was worried about that leaf browning









I let the buds push through the tape. Tree was fine. Then removed the tape after the sun broke it down many months later. Iím not sure about buddy tape? The buds are meant to grow through too though so should be fine? Any other thoughts?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Shine Muscat
« on: February 03, 2023, 11:40:09 PM »
Thanks everyone! Janet, yes I plan on removing those buds. I hope to get some for sale to public asap. 1rainman, looks like you are correct about that. Hereís a link from wikepedia.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shine_Muscat
Note that giberellic acid is used to make them seedless and have a thinner skin.
Also they do thin the bunches out to get bigger ones. Seems like they have regulations to get each grape above 30grams. Which is labor intensive and why they can be expensive.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ODDS & SODS - Plants For Sale!
« on: February 03, 2023, 01:21:28 PM »
When you say bulk... how many plants do you need?
I have 50-60 stocky yearlings in 4-inch pots.
Packaging, Shipping costs and general logistics for a large quantity of delicate plants is the real challenge.

Kevin
Local pickup for all 60 how low can you go?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Shine Muscat
« on: February 03, 2023, 12:46:50 PM »



Anyone else got theirs to root? Mine already has flower buds 😂

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ODDS & SODS - Plants For Sale!
« on: February 03, 2023, 11:58:46 AM »
Hey Kevin,
how many sabara do you have? Are you willing to work out a bulk deal? ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: February 02, 2023, 11:04:57 PM »


Thanks SO much for posting those pictures Jabo!! Kudos to you for having such great success growing them in TN, you deserve a huge pat on the back! Just amazing, and your hard work is paying off... Best of luck and may you have many mangoes to eat this year  ;D
Thank you! The same to you also. Mango is such a good fruit I regret not buying more when I first started of collecting. Oh well, that just means getting more trees now!

Jaboticaba45: Your mango trees look amazing. And doubly impressive that they are flowering already. How warm do you keep the greenhouse in winter to get bloom this early?
Thank you! I let it go between 40-45 sometimes even lower. Seems counterintuitive, but as long as it's above freezing, it's ok to get cold temps (I know people who keep theirs at 55 out of fear the plants will die) This year it may have gone below that when it was super cold (maybe 35?). Other than that, not much. Normally they bloom later. I don't know what's happening. The mallika panicles are only 2 on the tree right now, and are just early ones. I suspect the main bulk will pop in a month or so. Still pretty early though. I guess downside is there are no bees, but not worried at all. Plenty of ants and others going around. I've never seen bees on mango flowers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: February 02, 2023, 09:36:01 PM »


Thanks SO much for posting those pictures Jabo!! Kudos to you for having such great success growing them in TN, you deserve a huge pat on the back! Just amazing, and your hard work is paying off... Best of luck and may you have many mangoes to eat this year  ;D
Thank you! The same to you also. Mango is such a good fruit I regret not buying more when I first started of collecting. Oh well, that just means getting more trees now!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: February 02, 2023, 09:35:05 PM »
Jabo's in Tn not Fl mind you.  Jabo, do you guys get anthracnose & pm like we do?  Just asking.

Ed
Hi Ed,
I've had anthracnose on a tree before, but spraying got rid of it. The greenhouse can get pretty wet and condensation can drip at times which is not the best. Luckily it's only during winter.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Campomanesia macrobracteolata flowering
« on: February 02, 2023, 08:33:24 AM »
Looking great! I only have one campomanesia which is aromaticum. Do you know if it's any good? I've stayed away from campos though just cause it's mostly plinias I like.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Winter Sale! 20% off!
« on: February 01, 2023, 09:30:57 PM »
A mighty fine list of seeds you have there! Yes please hurry up spring. I have so much to do now. Can't keep me waiting!
Those giant trunciflora looks super cool. there's now so many truncifloras to get now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: February 01, 2023, 08:15:19 PM »
Jabo, your trees look flawless, whatís your secret?
Thank you! Not really a secret, but they just seem to grow for me. I did struggle with anthracnose or something and maybe sooty mold, but spraying with neem oil and copper fungicide cleaned things up. The trees pictured are in ground or in rootmaker pots that are bottomless so they are growing directly into my native soil which is part clay. Seems to be doing fine. It must be those turpentine rootstocks carrying them LOL.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: February 01, 2023, 08:11:30 PM »
Does anybody care to comment on how much light is too little. I have kept might is very low light since I got them. Could this be a problem?
No leaves so it's not like it can get energy or anything. Just don't keep in the dark and you'll be fine. Mine are in greenhouse so they are getting decent sun for a few hours. Slowly acclimate to full sun once they start to grow.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: February 01, 2023, 05:28:14 PM »
As per request of someone here are some pictures of the flowering trees now. Photos donít go through pms so now you all have the privilege of seeing them lol. Mango trees are not hard to grow or fruit so this year Iím going to invest in several more varieties especially after tasting and selecting my favorites each summer. This year it looks like my blooms are more in line with FL as opposed to blooming later like most years. Hope you all enjoy!
Ndm-4

Fruit punch

Mallika

Another view of ndm

Mallika early panicle

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 1000th Post Giveaway!
« on: January 31, 2023, 11:19:13 PM »
2/18
3:36 pm
heheheha
Cool giveaway! Really interesting species!

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I know breadfruit trees can get huge, but are they capable of fruiting at a small size?  I never tried because I only like fresh eating fruits, but I wouldn't count it out based on climate alone if you have a greenhouse.  I don't know much about breadfruit specifically but all the other artocarpus have been surprisingly easy to grow (so far)
Probably not lol. Neither marang and the other artocarpus. Jackfruit and chempejack (hypothetically) could be done as we've seen with Tropical Fruit Hunters. I got rid of mine though it's not worth my space for a few jackfruits a year. I'd be surprised if you could fruit chempedak. If you do, that's a huge feat. I have a friend in FL with greenhouses with marang and pedalai and his haven't fruited yet and they're hitting the roof of his 20ft greenhouse. They just get too big. Now we can fruit kwai muk and lakoocha easy though. Just am waiting for my trees to grow more.

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My aunt lives in Dallas, so I know a bit of the weather there...First off, it can get extremely cold. Like I'd say it gets colder than here in 7b. I know the summers are super hot, but in the winter it can get super cold. So I'd be wary planting a lot of stuff out unless you are going to protect it. You could try yangmei, kadsura, stone fruits, berries, etc. Don't think jabos or eugeinas and others could make it unless you plant them on a wall or provide extra heat or protection. After seeing the huge arctic blasts last couple of years is a testament that it's gonna be hard to grow tropicals/subtropicals there. Forum member Mark in Texas lives in that same zone/climate. You can always try to contact him. He has an epic greenhouse! Also psidium longipetiolatum got wrecked here after hitting 29f lol. It's not as hardy as I'd like to say although I've heard reports of as low as 15f. You can do jelly palms for sure. Hope this helps!

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I tried this with breadfruit. Gave up. Takes way too much space anyway for something that will never fruit. But I think if in the right area and conditions you could potentially make it work.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 31, 2023, 01:08:57 PM »
New way for cold protection.

I'd be worried about the rope getting wet and allowing fungi to grow on the trunk under it.
Why protect them from cold? They are already very cold tolerant.

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SEMI FINALS!!! For all you durian lovers jackfruit is still in the race! I think overall, these are some great final contestants

Jackfruit should never be used in the same sentence as durian, jackfruit is pigs food compared to durian.
I told you.  Jackfruit is also pigs food, compared to mango.
I agree...you and other people made me think of mango season today and I realized how much I am craving a good sweet tart or lemon zest. Only got another 5-6 months left to wait!

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you made me hop out of my desk chair and go check mine. Looks like 5 or 6 varieties of female trees will make it but not the male. Very happy and thanks for all those doling out advice

Iíve got about 15 or so males, donít see any buds yet but definitely still alive, if any live I can help share scions
Are any of your males grafted? See a graft line?

I believe a few are, hard to tell because more than half the labels of my trees fell off in transit and itís a guessing game on most of them :( that said, I have a few that are grafted and labeled as male. I hope they make it.
Same here LOL. If mine grow it'll either be biqi or wusu. All my males were seedlings. In the end it doesn't matter seedling or grafted, but seedling trees could be 50/50 chance for male so its a waiting game or DNA test time.

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you made me hop out of my desk chair and go check mine. Looks like 5 or 6 varieties of female trees will make it but not the male. Very happy and thanks for all those doling out advice

Iíve got about 15 or so males, donít see any buds yet but definitely still alive, if any live I can help share scions
Are any of your males grafted? See a graft line?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 30, 2023, 02:40:37 PM »
I'm going to plant a grove of these trees. hopefully 12-16 or so trees.
Recommendations for spacing requirements?

Hi Ryan, have you seen these videos by California Rare Fruit Growers?  Episode #23 shows a planting of a Yangmei orchard in Northern California and Episode #17 features the personal garden of the founder of Calmei.  Some of his trees look like they are planted close together.
https://crfg.org/home/library/crfg-inc-video-gallery/lets-find-out/

Two summers ago, Marta sent me some fresh seeds of Yangmei.  I kept them in the fridge.  They all sprouted quickly once I planted them in late February.  Caterpillars love the young sprouts, so this time I will keep them protected with tulle fabric.

Janet
Thanks Janet for the information. Iíll check it out!

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A simple way to tell is if the leaves are hairy. Like very hairy is chempedak, but less hair is hybrid or jack. It's simplified down but probably the best way to tell. There's many hybrids out there going a chempedak which is such a shame.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 29, 2023, 11:04:36 PM »
I'm going to plant a grove of these trees. hopefully 12-16 or so trees.
Recommendations for spacing requirements?


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO fruiting red scion wood
« on: January 29, 2023, 07:50:29 PM »
Anyone can do a giant grimal? Thats fruited?

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