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If your water high in bicarbonates and your soil is high in Magnesium relative to Calcium, this would be the cause of higher PH.

You can do the following in addition to adding a small amount of sulfur which may help in the long run:

1) Add a small amount of gypsum per year ( less than 500 1bs/acre) In the long run this will help to rebalance the soil and offset some of the water problem.

2) You can acidify the city water with an acid. This may not be practical for you.

3) Increase organic matter and make sure the tree gets an adequate amount of water. ( These steps help the tree to better handle a higher PH.)

4) A foliar spray with Manganese and Iron may help.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Foliar Feeding Micronutrients
« on: December 14, 2023, 01:39:31 AM »
I think that there are many benefits to foliar spraying. There is plenty of science to support its use and it is quite common for profesional farmers to use foliar spraying often.

It works well in many instances. For example some soils have nutrient lock ups. In this case foliar spray is useful since it bypasses the soil. Also, it is often a very fast way to get a particular nutrient into a tree quickly. You can often get results in hours instead of weeks in some cases.

The best thing is to try it and see if you get good results. I have often found that less is more. Some professional orchards spray every few weeks. If it's going to help, the fist treatment will often have the most benefit. Each additional application may have somewhat less of an effect. If I had the time I would spray my Mango trees once per month. I am an advocate of trying it with lower concentrations instead of  stronger. The first time I ever sprayed my orchard, I was shocked by how good the results were and how fast everything improved.

 

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It's normal to get some cracking. The possible causes are: Inconsistent watering, Low Calcium levels, low Boron Levels, Low copper levels. Or a surplus of Nitrogen and or potassium.

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Has anyone in Socal used a wire basket for gopher control  on a mango tree?

Is there a possible problem with root girdling because mango trees can form a deep tap root?

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I used to have the Natal plum. It got sick and died. Just one caution, make sure the fruit is ripe. It should not be eaten under ripe. The fruit tastes OK. It's not a 10, but it's not bad.

The tree is common in some old commercial Socal landscaping.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Edges of young mango leaves look burned
« on: January 16, 2022, 03:30:40 PM »
Electrolyte Imbalance in plant. Most likely low on Potassium.

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Yes, they do fine in coastal Santa Barbara.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harvesting Sugar Cane
« on: January 12, 2022, 05:29:28 PM »
How good is the final product? How will you use it?

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I have used bonide Sulfur, and nutritional sprays for powdery mildew of the mango. Generally, I use the nutritional foliar sprays trough the season and well before the panicle emerges. I feel that they help to reduce the problem. Then as soon as the panicles emerge but before flowers, you can apply sulfur. As soon as peas size fruit appears, then you can continue using fungicides. If no powdery mildew is present, then apply sulfur again. If its present consider switching to Potassium Bicarbonate. Sulfur is a preventative but Potassium Bicarbonate is an eradicant. Sometimes if I see powdery mildew before the fruit is formed I use Potassium Bicarbonate. But I only do this if I have to.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic scale control
« on: January 07, 2022, 05:54:16 PM »
Keep ants off of the tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado poll
« on: November 21, 2021, 03:52:05 PM »
Does Carmen Hass have a seasonal and production advantage. If so it might be good to take that into account.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gopher Gold
« on: November 14, 2021, 12:57:17 AM »
I knew some of you would come up with creative ways to put this into practice!

Has anyone used the castor oil based products that you can water in around your plants to deter gophers from going in that area? Some say they work, but others say they don't.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gopher Gold
« on: November 13, 2021, 11:20:57 AM »
I use all of the different kinds of traps. Sometimes different traps work better in different situations. However, the best trap overall is the gopherhawk. The gopherhawk is not expensive for me because the biggest cost of trapping gophers is the labor. If I include my time or the cost of hiring someone, I save money by using gopherlawk. Right now I have 25 of them in my orchard along with some macabee and box traps.

The Drought in Socal has made things even worse this year, because the only place the gophers can find roots is around my trees! The field had no weeds up until the most recent rains. So they constantly attacked my trees. In one case there was a leak in my drip line that created a small green patch of weeds in my orchard. So far I have caught four gophers in that spot and there are more there. So they were attacked to the greens and watered soil in that area. I have not figured this out yet, but there could be a way to have an area away from the trees were you water an area with plants in it that they like to lure them away from the trees. Then there could be a way to either trap them in that spot or set up some way corral them under ground. Just a thought.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sooty mold
« on: November 11, 2021, 08:18:19 PM »
A strong stream of water will help to take the soot off.

If there are insects that are being farmed by ants like scale use tanglefoot on the banded trunk and encourage beneficial insects in anyway you can. This will fix the root of the problem.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with young Carrie tree
« on: November 06, 2021, 12:05:38 PM »
Looks like it could be Manganese & Iron. You could add a small amount of organically chelated micronutrients to your foliar spray. That should stop problems like that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Applying Calcium to Fruit Trees
« on: November 04, 2021, 11:18:02 PM »
I apply pelletized Gypsum to all of my trees at a rate of 250 lbs/acre about 30-45 days before spring. In my climate trees start to grow with the higher temperatures in late march or early April. So I apply in February. I use the pelletized  form just because it is easier to handle. I only apply 250 lbs per acre because an excessive amount can alter soil biology. Peak plant uptake occurs in most soils after 30 days.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Silica to improve mango branch strength?
« on: October 31, 2021, 11:55:06 AM »
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I remove leaves from my yard so minerals get depleted.
Does your soil report indicate how long the silica last if you do the same


I have never retested so I would not be sure if the silica levels changed. I doubt they change much. In any case I never get rid of leaves. In fact, I import them. Like with so many of these minerals, they are usually present in the soil, but can the plant uptake them in the quantity needed?? That is the key question.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Silica to improve mango branch strength?
« on: October 30, 2021, 11:35:22 PM »
DE is the best natural way to add it. But I have heard that Wollastonite is a better natural source. You must avoid breathing each one because they are bad for your lungs. I don't add it because my soil test shows good levels.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Silica to improve mango branch strength?
« on: October 30, 2021, 06:28:40 PM »
Silica would be helpful. Adding it would be helpful if your soil is low in it. Other minerals that would be part of this are Calcium and Boron.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starfruit- Anyone Growing It ?
« on: October 27, 2021, 10:23:47 PM »
I have one that flowers but has never fruited. It is a beautiful and interesting tree with small pink flowers. I look at it out the window and appreciate it. So I am happy I have it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starfruit- Anyone Growing It ?
« on: October 27, 2021, 09:55:48 PM »
Oxalate is a compound found in very high concentration in star fruit., Excess consumption has been linked to gout and kidney stones. I have heard that some varieties of Star fruit are lower in oxalate than others. So it might be good to find one that is lower.

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Some workers bumped my Keitt Mango tree today while we were trapping for gophers and this is what came off. I usually pick these a month or two from now. We will have to see how it turns out.

Try the Indian and Asian markets in LA. The quality can be much better. Every once in a while you find a store owner that loves a good mango and they order the best. The large traditional American supermarkets often don't know what a good mango is.

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Brad, what is the best way to purchase some of Zills seeds or seedlings? Which ones are the fastest to grow and  or produce fruit?

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How vigorous are Keitt seedlings? How long would it take them to fruit? I have a grafted Keitt that produces like a champ up here in Santa Barbara. My tree produces delicious large fruit. It is the only Mango tree that I have that does not require spraying for PM. PM is a big problem here.

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