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Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« on: November 27, 2020, 02:10:24 PM »
Hello, has anyone experience with this avocado in a mediterranean climate?
I live in Europe/Greece and the lowest winter temperature in my place is 24F (-4.5C).

At what temperature will this avocado gets frost damage when mature?

I don't like it to get damaged every winter, even if it recovers during the spring.

Thank you in advance

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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2020, 06:40:07 PM »
24 degrees will be no problem for Brogdon.  I have read they sre hardy to 18 degrees.  My Brogdon planted next to a privacy fence laughs at short term night temps of mid 20's degrees here in South Florida.  No worries.  The thin skin makes them less resistant to fruit rot tho.
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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2020, 02:20:44 AM »
I live in Attica 350m above sealevel. The hass seedling avocadoes i have show no damage at our winters here.
Also may i ask where did you manage to find brogdon avocado?!

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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2020, 11:45:59 PM »
Brogdon is a popular HOME variety in the Southern USA available at most USA fruit nurseries.  There are better varieties.  I would choose DAY over Brogdon.  Day produces in a couple of years, not eight
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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2020, 10:18:44 AM »
Thanks for your replies, i think Brogdon will be a better choice but i'm afraid of the longer duration frosts we get here. Florida has a tropical like climate. Maybe they will survive here but i don't know if they will be productive.

The only available avocado variety in Europe is Hass. But i found some Brogdon cuttings on ebay from Cyprus. https://www.ebay.com/itm/3x-Organic-Brogdon-Avocado-Tree-Cuttings-Cut-To-Order-SELF-FERTILE-Cold-Hardy/224246377811?hash=item3436202d53:g:l~gAAOSwgaVe-8Fh Although I'm not sure about the rooting success rate.
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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2020, 03:13:36 AM »
Hass is not particularly cold hardy.  I have lost young Hass trees to temps around 30 degrees.
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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2020, 10:59:07 AM »
I ended up buying some Mexicola cuttings instead. nighthawk0911@yahoo.com do you have this variety? I read different opinions about its taste

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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2020, 11:40:50 PM »
I have Brogdon, Choquette, Day, Oro Negro & Nishikawa all excellent for flavor and fine for Zone 9b production with short term temps into the mid 20's.  Never grown or tried Mexicola.  They tend to be small and not usually at the top of the list, but they are cold hardy.
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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2020, 07:01:02 AM »
Funny, I just opened up a space in my backyard and was thinking of adding a Brogdon, is this a bad time to plant? I live in se Florida, 9b. Also have a Day, Oro Negro- never any fruit 4 years, Lula- bad year with lace bugs.

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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2020, 12:06:02 PM »
Iíve been looking at getting a Day for awhile - how cold hardy is it compared to brogden? Iíve heard itís more sensitive. Iíve seen larger brogden here shrug off a couple days of 24f-26f freezes with only minimal damage to the outer canopy.

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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2020, 05:47:41 PM »
I don't think South Florida's had mid-twenties weather in 30 years or longer... I live here!🤣🤣

I live in Attica 350m above sealevel. The hass seedling avocadoes i have show no damage at our winters here.
Also may i ask where did you manage to find brogdon avocado?!
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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2020, 07:49:07 PM »
Iíve been looking at getting a Day for awhile - how cold hardy is it compared to brogden? Iíve heard itís more sensitive. Iíve seen larger brogden here shrug off a couple days of 24f-26f freezes with only minimal damage to the outer canopy.

Day trees seem to be hardy to the low 20s from what Iíve gathered. Thatís pretty good, but Brogden probably has a few degrees more cold tolerance.

There used to be a large Brogden tree that would fruit regularly near McCarty Hall at the University of Florida in Gainesville. That tree definitely would have taken temps in the high teens or around 20F  on some occasions over a number of decades.

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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2020, 09:04:34 PM »
North Florida including gainseville got to single digits twice during the 80ís..

As far as brogden, itís not a true Mexican but I heard when it first was starting to come about, somebody managed to grow it in the coastal Carolinas and it survived there some number of years but Iím not sure what climate zone.

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Re: Brogdon avocado frost damage temperature?
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2021, 04:54:33 AM »
get rid of the Mexicola Don't waste your time on it or at least use it as a base to top work they put out very small avocados and they ripen unevenly so I have a tree that has over 100 of them on it and I can't eat any of them because 3/4 of the fruit never ripens a little section will get ripen enough for maybe one small spoonful and you got to throw the rest of it away..
By the way I've lived in Greece the last 15 years and I'm there except for this year with the covid all the time and I live in Florida the other half of the year.. I sent you a private message

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I have Brogdon, Choquette, Day, Oro Negro & Nishikawa all excellent for flavor and fine for Zone 9b production with short term temps into the mid 20's.  Never grown or tried Mexicola.  They tend to be small and not usually at the top of the list, but they are cold hardy.
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