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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Growing oranges in FL
« on: Today at 09:02:13 AM »
The problem here is I am not aware of these being released to the general public yet. They appear to be commercial only and am not sure how widespread this is yet. I dont know of any commercial groves of them as of yet and they are going to get first pick as soon as they become available and I am sure have a waiting list a mile long.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguanas
« on: July 16, 2024, 08:09:38 AM »
That is what someone in my neighborhood(Wedgefield) said on our neighborhood facebook page. They had a pic. This was about a month ago. I was surprised as well, I didnt think they had made it past Lake Okeechobee. Person said they had been sighted in Orlando proper also. This is the first I have heard of either. Keeping my eyes out but with all the woods I intentionally keep around my yard, even winter will be difficult to find them if they are really here and drop.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Rooting Fig Cuttings Question
« on: July 15, 2024, 11:02:40 AM »
I typically will take the cutting, use a razorblade and make some slashes through the bark at the bottom two or three inches. Dip it in rooting hormone and stick them in clear cups of potting soil in a tray of soil that sits on a heat tray. I then just keep everything moist until I see the roots taking over the clear cups and then stick them in pots outside. 95% success rate to this stage.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Strawberry Tree- Arbutus unedo
« on: July 15, 2024, 10:58:25 AM »
I have two that have finally survived past two years. Granted I am in 10 central FL. These seem extremely hardy, not sure the cultivars as both are different. One survived an early being divided in half due to shipping breaking at the fork and I used electrical tape(I had it on hand) and taped it back together and it continued growing. Both have been mauled by deer and have grown back twice as big as they were although this did affect fruit set which is still recovering. When I did get fruit from the bigger tree, it didnt taste that bad and I did eat more than one. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguanas
« on: July 15, 2024, 10:52:08 AM »
Snakes will get caught in netting :( I had a poor racer stuck in mine that I had over my strawberries last year. Supposedly we have them in my neighborhood near Orlando now, but I have yet to see them. I have plenty of .22 rifles to choose from and a canal to dump them in with plenty of softshell turtles which will tear them apart. Those things are more vicious than gators when it comes to fresh meat in the water, very cool hunting patterns to watch too. Its a very organized grid pattern search once they smell blood.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pecan Trees
« on: June 27, 2024, 09:28:38 AM »
Actually I have had some luck although it has taken some time. I was weedwhacking prior to mowing the other day and I noticed for the first time, a fair number of pecans on my oldest tree. Not sure where it got cross fertilized from since the nearest pecan is about 100' away and is not near as big and didnt have any panicles that I noticed. But hey, not going to look a gifthorse in the mouth. Its about 16' tall at this point. Couldnt begin to tell you what kind it is though except it bloomed in late march/early May. I have a spot in the middle between the two for another one at some point. Oh and I am now 10a.

Pecans aside, that forward 40' of the yard is mostly flowering trees. I am slowly working on trying to build a wall of trees to hide the rest of the yard and house from the street so I dont have to see the new neighbors across the street when they build a house. So yeah, theres a Pecan tree sitting not far from both yellow and purple Jacaranda and royal poinciana trees. Its my zombie annona tree I am considering removing after almost 10 years of no fruit and planting a pecan in the fall which sits about 30' from a pair of mango trees. I'll have to find an early flowering pecan

Lychee are great but they do take awhile before fruiting once in ground. Mine is 11 or 12 and it finally has fruit on it, 12 of them to be exact, I counted yesterday. It is a very pretty tree though.

Depends on how long you are willing to wait.
Avocados are pretty trees and grow decently fast provided you dont have deer chowing down on them.
Loquats are pretty when big but are slow as hell growers and take many years before they fruit, and deer love them.
Figs are pretty, not sure if they will defoliate in south Florida or if you have RKN issues, if so skip or keep potted.
Tropical Almonds are very pretty trees and grow decently fast if you dont have cold knocking them back every year.
Longons or lychees, both pretty and fruit is excellent.
Wax Jambu red- cool looking tree with neat fruit
Cashew- pretty tree, perfect trap for fruit thieves who dont know any better.
Surinam Cherry makes a nice thick hedge over time.
Irish Strawberry- get a named variety. Very pretty and colorful tree. Decently fast grower. Fruit is edible on the named varieties when ripe. You can make wine from them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit tree ID (in Miami)
« on: April 05, 2024, 01:57:12 PM »
Tropical almond?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Growing oranges in FL
« on: April 04, 2024, 07:42:07 AM »
I disagree. I have seen groves mixed in alternate rows with pine trees and the trees look far healthier than open sun and open air trees. My own experience so far mirrors this. They are an understory tree in nature and prefer dappled light. Every grove I see on the regular in full sun looks like hell. Could be they all have greening, but doesnt explain why the partially shaded ones look so much better. Partially shaded doesnt mean they arent getting 6-8 hours of sun, it just means they arent getting the sun full blast from 6am-830pm(during the summer)

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Growing oranges in FL
« on: April 03, 2024, 03:54:54 PM »
There are ways to grow citrus in FL. I have had luck growing under oak trees. I still deal with leaf miners but so far aside from the ravages of deer my small grove of various trees including a red naval orange is doing fairly well. Citrus does not like being in full sun with few exceptions, one being a pomelo weirdly enough. All of the rest of my older trees that I planted early on in full sun have either died or are very stunted. I started a couple three years ago partially under an oak tree line and they are already taller, bushier and healthier than ones I planted over ten years ago in full sun.

I also have a couple in pots located on the east side of my house under the eaves so the dew drips on them every morning from the roof. They look great as well since they miss the afternoon sun.

Finally I find some of the oddball varieties do well and are less susceptible to greening. Yuzu lemon, pomelo, and some of the weird ones tend to survive.

The weevils are easily removed by hand or shake the tree and send in some chickens. You will need to squish them on concrete though. Then add spinosad as a root drench for the larva. I find they love mangos and select citrus trees. They really loved my old key lime tree before the cold killed it a couple years back. Weirdly after it died I havent seen them on the property since.  Could also be because my neighbor across the street with his uncared for fruit tree farm has finally moved on and trees mostly died off.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees I gave up on
« on: March 18, 2024, 08:56:20 AM »
Apples- fine I get that they barely grow here in 10a. That said I am not digging my two remaining ones up until I have all my other spaces filled. I have Tropic Sweet and Ein Shimer remaining, dorsette and anna have never survived long term.
Peaches- I gave up on these two seasons ago. Not worth the effort and money to try.

I don't think foliar feeding would be effective because there is no efficient way for the tree to take in the nutrients, since the leaves and stem aren't meant to take in nutrients the way roots do. if anything, it could be harmful to the leaves. to me it sounds like pseudoscience, but I have no experience in foliar feeding and not much in mangoes, take me with a grain of salt.

Are you specifically referencing mango trees or all trees? Its a very established practice with quite a few other types of trees like citrus for example. I have been given fish emulsion when I first got into trees from a large citrus nursery and told to hit all citrus leaves, top and bottom, once a month. While I havent kept up that regimen over the years I do do it several times a year and only my greening trees seem to not get real effects from it(color-wise). I would assume mangos get the same benefit.

I grow Tropic Sweet and Ein Shimer(sp?). Both have been in the ground for close to a decade, neither grow very fast nor do they produce much. If I get a couple apples each then its a bumper year. It never crossed my mind that RKN could have something to do with it.

If you are in eastern central FL with our wonderful grey sand, just put them in pots. I have not found any that are resistant that will survive in ground more than a couple years. I grow about two dozen currently in pots on cement tiles. An exception I have seen is when a subdivision brings in good soil from elsewhere and layers it fairly deep to bring the ground up. I have a friend in Oviedo in a nice neighborhood with a pretty large fig tree in ground and they have no idea what I am talking about when it comes to fig issues from RKN.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plants are budding up...
« on: March 04, 2024, 08:42:34 AM »
Very nice. I was wandering around my property over the weekend and noticed most of my stuff is budding and flowering. I guess the lack of a cold winter knocking stuff back for the first time since I can remember is doing wonders for me for once. Then again, I am dreading the pest explosion that not having cold weather is going to cause.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ice cream bean questions
« on: February 21, 2024, 03:40:59 PM »
Never seen a flower on it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ice cream bean questions
« on: February 21, 2024, 01:31:36 PM »
I have had one in Central Florida 9b/10a for about 8 years or so. Its roughly 18 feet tall and would be that spread if I didnt cut it back every few years. I have never had any fruit/pods from it. No clue why, it gets plenty of irrigation and hasnt frozen back in a few years.

It would be either Brogden avocado(once I took the deer fence down) or Surinam cherry. I dont do anything for either of them and they produce heavily.

I didnt know it grew as ground cover. I have mine outdoors climbing up an oak tree. Seems to really like it there and I have had multiple fruit from it. Its been there 5 years or so and it about 8 feet tall. Does not inhibit the oak at all as would be expected.

Never had a problem with germinating Surinams here and I am the Black Death when it comes to seeds typically. I just dont like them enough to plant more than the two I already have in ground. I have well over a hundred various seeds currently in trays on heat pads and the only ones that have germinated for me are three Royal Poincianas(Flamboyan(SP?)) out of ten so far lol. Yay me!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: container black sapote seedling is flowing
« on: February 05, 2024, 08:41:59 AM »
Because I picked a Balck Sapote up in a nursery going out of business sale a few weeks back, I intend on keeping it in a container for the next few years until its big enough to survive our winters in the ground. What kind of soil mix are you using?

Nursery and gold mine in the same sentence?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: COLD HARDY LYCHEES & LONGANS
« on: February 01, 2024, 01:14:10 PM »
No clue what you are and arent able to source out there. Up above its mentioned that Emperor is a mountainous variety.

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