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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: pinkturtle on August 28, 2022, 03:23:22 PM

Title: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: pinkturtle on August 28, 2022, 03:23:22 PM
It is cross between Shek Kip Longan and Ziniangxi Lychee, name: 
脆蜜or 石紫脆蜜
https://finance.sina.cn/2022-08-26/detail-imizmscv7849554.d.html?from=wap
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: Galatians522 on August 28, 2022, 03:59:16 PM
No can read buddy--all in Chinese.
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: fruit4me on August 28, 2022, 04:06:40 PM
Pinkturtle,
Sounds very interesting,  can you tell us more information. I can't read Chinese. Thanks
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: Jaboticaba45 on August 28, 2022, 04:11:58 PM
If you're on a computer, you can auto translate it
Basically the article said they crossed lychee and longan to make this new one...
What makes it special is that there is more cold tolerance.
Also taste...
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: CarolinaZone on August 28, 2022, 04:23:07 PM
If you're on a computer, you can auto translate it
Basically the article said they crossed lychee and longan to make this new one...
What makes it special is that there is more cold tolerance.
Also taste...
Sounds fishy. Let me read the article but I'll say before I do if this is possible how come it hasn't happened until now? I shall return. ;D
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: CarolinaZone on August 28, 2022, 04:32:50 PM
If you're on a computer, you can auto translate it
Basically the article said they crossed lychee and longan to make this new one...
What makes it special is that there is more cold tolerance.
Also taste...
Sounds fishy. Let me read the article but I'll say before I do if this is possible how come it hasn't happened until now? I shall return. ;D
Translating that article took almost as much effort as it took to make that fruit. Interesting.
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: sc4001992 on August 28, 2022, 04:37:49 PM
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Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: sc4001992 on August 28, 2022, 04:45:02 PM
JPEG format of the 8 pages below:

(https://i.postimg.cc/PrSZbZQd/Hybrid-Longan-pdf-Page-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vc6cb4KK)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MpdSpZwP/Hybrid-Longan-pdf-Page-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YvGVXHhY)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4Ncyy928/Hybrid-Longan-pdf-Page-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnYmBnWR)
(https://i.postimg.cc/T3mttC7r/Hybrid-Longan-pdf-Page-4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3k8jRCHR)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CKnFn9wp/Hybrid-Longan-pdf-Page-5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJBqwQJL)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KjYdXgqr/Hybrid-Longan-pdf-Page-6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vgpPfDdc)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Rhqbpxhg/Hybrid-Longan-pdf-Page-7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tnQ57fh6)
(https://i.postimg.cc/J7dFD0Yv/Hybrid-Longan-pdf-Page-8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JtZxSrL5)
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: Jaboticaba45 on August 28, 2022, 05:18:33 PM
So based off of a quick read of the article, it seems like this one was made using traditional methods instead of gmo. Looks like China is gonna be keen to not let this one spread out of the country so they can monopolize it. Even so, it would take years until it lands into the US especially with import restrictions (since this is lychee)
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: Galatians522 on August 28, 2022, 05:19:43 PM
Thanks for posting the English, my phone would not translate.
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: CarolinaZone on August 28, 2022, 07:07:16 PM
So based off of a quick read of the article, it seems like this one was made using traditional methods instead of gmo. Looks like China is gonna be keen to not let this one spread out of the country so they can monopolize it. Even so, it would take years until it lands into the US especially with import restrictions (since this is lychee)
I wonder if it's even any good or if this is all hype? That said it is a shame the Dept. of Agriculture doesn't do like it did in the past and import varieties so that our farmers/citizens can access them.
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: pineislander on August 28, 2022, 07:58:15 PM
So based off of a quick read of the article, it seems like this one was made using traditional methods instead of gmo. Looks like China is gonna be keen to not let this one spread out of the country so they can monopolize it. Even so, it would take years until it lands into the US especially with import restrictions (since this is lychee)
Considering Chinas laxity about copy and patent I expect the opposite, that it will be widely copied if any good.
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: Draak on August 29, 2022, 02:39:38 AM
I am also a bit of a skeptic, but it's exciting if this is real! I know that Zaiger genetics faced similar odds when trying to generate viable hybrids.
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: CarolinaZone on August 29, 2022, 02:09:54 PM
To be honest I would rather have access to some of those giant varieties that are already available in Asia.
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: Epiphyte on August 29, 2022, 04:40:56 PM
"...inducing the fusion of protoplasts in different species..." 

Embryo rescue (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryo_rescue)? 
Title: Re: Introduce the new Variety of longan.
Post by: Galatians522 on August 29, 2022, 10:16:57 PM
"...inducing the fusion of protoplasts in different species..." 

Embryo rescue (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryo_rescue)?

This refers to somatic fusion. A type of GMO where you take two cells and fuse them together to create a singe cell with two full sets of genes. This automatically produces a hybrid of the two plants regardless of pollination barriers. Embryo rescue also occurs in a test tube, but the original embryo was formed through natural means of pollination.