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Dang Brad those really took off since I last saw them. Congratulations on the success and looking forward to a review soon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cutting quarantine??
« on: Today at 02:05:57 PM »
The only one that I believe has quarantine restrictions is Arizona but I believe that is just related to plants with soil? You're just sending "sticks", could be anything.

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The successful commercial grove in not cal is full sun and regularly seeís temps in the 100ís. Soil is deep loam though. You may be having an issue with your soil holding water for the asimina or they are not getting enough irrigation? They produce best in full sun too.
My lows are around 25f-30f and my highs can be 110-115f. I don't think the Bay is nearly as brutal. That heat wave had us over 100f for a week straight with evening lows of 75f so you can see how a temperate tree just couldn't handle the heat. Most temperate trees I have suffered, but paw paws by far the worst.

Depending on where you are in SD County, you may be milder than I am and could do a full sun planting.

They maybe were passing through the nicely irrigated and loamy area I've been able to build up and into sand which stressed them out at just the wrong time or maybe they hit the sandstone? We had some weird well issues where it puked up manganese chunks too so who knows. It did coincide perfectly with the high temps so... Just not sure. Hoping they'll pop off in the next few years!

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I think the biggest boom was COVID where everyone had tons of time to hang out at home and learn about and install gardens. The sort of collector scene did see a bit of growth, I sold a lot of plants locally off Craigslist, but that has dropped off precipitously. 2008-2012 were the golden years of forum use and it's all on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and so on now - hundreds of posts per day in certain collector groups. Unfortunately not nearly as high quality a group or quality of knowledge on those forums, the dragonfruit FB communities especially drove me insane with the misinformation and I ended up quitting those particular groups.

Due to the precarious nature of people's finances today and how tight belts are going to get, I don't think we'll see a lot of people getting into rare fruit collecting. The return on investment for most gardening is not very good at first.

We should see some conversion of regular gardeners into collectors though so probably a decent boost in of COVID first timers getting deeper but certainly not a kaboom.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grow bags
« on: October 06, 2022, 05:05:53 PM »
I used to use grow bags, but never will again. They fall apart, the soil gets hydrophobic, watering needs are excessive (2-3x a day for well established plants).

What little growth improvement there is is best applied for tomatoes, peppers, or "annuals" - not permanent fixture plants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing pawpaw in Southern California
« on: October 05, 2022, 07:36:16 PM »
My lows are around 25f-30f and my highs can be 110-115f. I don't think the Bay is nearly as brutal. That heat wave had us over 100f for a week straight with evening lows of 75f so you can see how a temperate tree just couldn't handle the heat. Most temperate trees I have suffered, but paw paws by far the worst.

Depending on where you are in SD County, you may be milder than I am and could do a full sun planting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing pawpaw in Southern California
« on: October 05, 2022, 02:00:41 PM »
I hope mine strengthen up and can put up with the sun / heat. I did lose one of five this year, I should've mentioned.

I have a schwack of seeds from selected varieties and will be going ham with direct seeding this year. Hopefully we get some takes. The issue I will then have is defending them from gophers and deer.

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What about Jaboticaba? I knew a guy in Indiana who had one for years. A few more that meet the hardiness requirement but might require pruning are Loquat, Pomegranate, Fig, and some of the high quality mulberries.

Jaboticaba are another excellent container species.

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Sorry to hear that Jabba. What a shame, but you can always rebuild in the future. My sincere condolences.

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I have many very successful eugenia in pots. I don't think you can go wrong with any of them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing pawpaw in Southern California
« on: October 04, 2022, 05:31:40 PM »
I am trying in my 9b, 2200' elevation location with more or less inland heat during the winter. We get plenty of chill hours.

I DO NOT recommend planting them in full CA sun. Mine would produce nice leaves when the temps were cool then they'd get absolutely fried when the heat went up and humidity went down. These are understory trees in their native habitat and I think our sun and high temps are just far too much for them without the humidity to match. Mine are of good size, probably 3/8" - 1/2" trunk and they still are not able to handle it. They completely defoliated twice in heat waves and are leafing out again at absolutely the wrong time of year.

In many ways I regret planting them in one of the best sun zones on my property - but that said, it's only full sun from 8am to around 1pm. I would've preferred to plant them in an area that gets sun from 8am to 10am with dappled the rest but they seem well established and hopefully other fruit trees around them will shade them in some years. Some avos planted about 10' from them so I suspect the avo will outgrow them substantially.

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Store pens and sharpies point down and they'll last WAY longer has been my experience.

I use the aluminum embossing tags for permanent tags once the plant is a good size. Writes fine with pencil or pen and you can wrap the wire around a little trunk or branch and good for long term, may just need to move them if branch outgrows wire tire.

Paint pen is also a good call.

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Red and yellow do taste different, imo. I find the yellow more tart and a really good strawberry guava really does get some strawberry hints to it - but they need to be dead ripe falling off the tree nearly black for that, in my experience.

I am always on the fence which one I prefer.

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Cattleyanum can get nice and big.

I had a MONSTER strawb guava this morning. I topped my tree and the fruit is obscenely big this year compared to last.

You headed down past Santa Barbara Elouicious? Drop on by if so.

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What exactly is Orange Cotrg? How long does it take from seed to fruit?

It is Cherry of the Rio Grande with orange skin. I have some of these from Marcos and they took about 2.5 years to fruit. They look very similar to CORG eugenia involcrata but the growth habit is quite different - less tree like, more bush like. Their trunks are much smaller than comparable CORGs I grew during the same time. They are a lot sweeter, but at the same time lack complexity. I need to try them again next year as you can't judge a plant on its first fruits. It is a keeper though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Leaning papaya
« on: September 28, 2022, 12:22:57 PM »
If it is a male very unlikely to ever make a fruit. Sometimes rarely they can make a fruit so this is an ornamental and wouldnt be carrying fruit.

You do need a male for pollination of true females though, right?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Leaning papaya
« on: September 27, 2022, 06:23:05 PM »






I know itís a concern when papayas lean, especially young. I think this is wind or sun related.

Should I add a stake and haul it over?

This is a male so it wonít hold fruit if Iím not mistaken?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« on: September 20, 2022, 05:54:08 PM »


Valencia pride at home



Orange essence at home



Orange essence at work



Valencia pride at work

The woodchips at work tend to float inward to the trunk when I water so I just scoot them back each time. The orange essence at work and VP at home were planted on the same week, interesting to see the differences between the one at home which suffers much more inland heat sometimes near 110f vs at work where they never see much more than 80f (by the sea). The soil is drastically different from my house to work, I'm basically just on ancient seabed sand (very little organic matter) whereas at work it's a heavy clay.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Achacha or Cambuca
« on: September 19, 2022, 07:46:37 PM »
That would be great. How old is the plant?

Probably a year old by now. It's not that tall, but has a lot of roots so it's in a 5 gallon. I have a bunch of other stuff you may be interested in too, always glad to meet 805 locals! PM me and we can arrange a meet up

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Achacha or Cambuca
« on: September 19, 2022, 03:13:16 PM »
I've got a decent cambuca plant I could sell you up here in Santa Barbara.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« on: September 16, 2022, 02:20:57 PM »
I've planted out a couple valencia prides (one at work, one at home), a few orange essence (one at work, one at home) and they seem to be doing really well. I hope to report in this thread in about 3-4 years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrel battle
« on: September 16, 2022, 02:20:05 PM »
I got a particularly bad one with my compound bow this year. Instant kill, silent, neighbors didn't even know. Just have to worry about what's behind the shot for safety. I'll use it again if there's another one that's causing issues.

Luckily we have so many oaks that they don't bother my crops too much. I struggle way more with birds.

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My sabara and red are holding lots of fruit sets. Some straggler pitanga, calycina, and cherry of the rio grande are coming in, kumquats and guavas are loaded but still green, and lots of dragonfruit ripening up now.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wireing avocado for training ?
« on: September 10, 2022, 03:12:08 PM »
I do a lot of training, pulling branches down flat if too vertical or running into another one. Widens the canopy nicely. Some people don't like the look on certain species but I don't care, I just want better sun exposure for more fruit!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: September 07, 2022, 01:45:45 PM »
Brad do you have any complaints with certain cultivars being more likely to get burnt leaves with high heat? I know this last week was exceptionally hot, but damn, my avos got beat up. Sir Prize shrivelled up completely. Hass and Lamb did ok.

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