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I want two cedar bay and two garnets. Thanks

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vernon white sapote in 15 Gal container
« on: February 22, 2024, 11:23:55 AM »
have a Vernon white sapote, first year flowering for the past few weeks. Did not set any fruit yet, should I hand pollinate or The tree is just 3 ft. is it good remove all flowers to have more vegetative growth. whats would be fertilizer application schedule?

I never had to hand pollinate mine. Bees or wind so it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are black and white sapote worth it
« on: February 19, 2024, 12:28:21 PM »
It all depends on what you like. Are you a collector like me or a connoisseur? I have heard this and I believe it" Maybe you haven't tried a good one." I have had an excellent white sapote. I have not had an excellent black sapote. Because I have had a substandard white sapote I believe there must be better tasting black sapotes out there. I also think your expectations effect what you experience. If you are looking for something that tastes like chocolate it will disappoint. Black sapote tastes more like a mix of raisin and molasses than anything else in my opinion because that is what a dried persimmon tastes like. White sapote does not taste like caramel to me and neither abiu. Maybe I havent had a good one  ;D

Hi everyone. Iím reposting this question from a separate thread to give it a bump. I am having pollination problems with my Vernon white sapote. It made a flush of blossoms this fall, but nearly all have aborted. This happened in the spring, too--hundreds of blossoms, but no fruit. The tree is otherwise healthy and is putting out new growth. The tree, probably about 6 years old and 6 feet tall,  is capable of fruiting, and it did so in 2022 (after blossoming in spring 2021). So, why is it failing now?

FYI, I donít follow any sort of fertilizing routine. Thdd Ed tree is growing well enough that it doesnít seem to need it.

Thanks for any advice.
The one I have labeled Vernon seems self fertile. Give a shot of bloom booster and see what it does. Hit 'em with some foliar iron and Micronutrients.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Big Jim Peluche loquat?
« on: October 23, 2023, 10:32:20 PM »
Are you sure that there are some of both.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do ants damage white sapote blossoms?
« on: October 14, 2023, 06:13:17 PM »
Put amdro ant bait at the bottom if the tree, then a shot of diatomaceous earth. Let them get that swet sweet ant bait. Kill the scale with neem oil and chrysanthemum.

That is strange. I have texas persimmons and americans that i bought in pots and they transplanted just fine.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Carolina Lychee
« on: September 24, 2023, 07:15:01 PM »
Cracked this thing open. It had a bit if a funky smell like durian ??? A little sulphur a little allium. The flavor was sweet maybe like a european table grape  but it did have a bit of a sourness and a bit of astringency.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vidal Redondo Mamey
« on: September 24, 2023, 06:50:04 PM »
Guys. I messed up and cut a mamey in half and it is rock hard but orange. Any chance it will ripen or should I throw it in the trash?

Hi folks, has anyone found a good use for Dovyalis hebecarpa x D. abyssinica? From the fruit I tasted, it was pretty sour, and the texture was a little too mealy for my tastes. Has anyone made preserves with it? Dehydrated? Something else?

Reedo, Pokeweed. My buddies. You guys know I have been looking for one of those things for a while. Apparently there is one that is sweet called prodigal.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Carolina Lychee
« on: September 24, 2023, 11:18:00 AM »
This is an Emperor. Any idea when I should harvest it? Strangely enough this is the only fruit on the tree. I am not sure when it flowered, how many flowers there were or how it was pollinated. I have another in the garden that I think is a Mauritius. I killed them for years until I realized how to take care of them in the winter. My longan fruited this year too. I need to take a look at it to see how it is doing.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Carolina Lychee
« on: September 23, 2023, 07:00:42 PM »
This a picture of the first lychee I have grown. Two years  in a container so probably years old. I purchased it at Pokey's in Florida.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Chicken Heart" Wampee
« on: September 17, 2023, 09:52:56 PM »
I have killed every wampee I have had. I am still willing to try though. ;)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kei apple cold tolerance
« on: September 17, 2023, 09:50:30 PM »
I'd love to have some cuttings and fruit. The problem is I'm 3000 mile away. Anybody here ever root Kei apple from cuttings? shaneatwell, how does your Silber taste. I have been in the market for one for about 5 years. I read that they are sweet and not as vegetable tasting as other.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 13, 2023, 10:24:04 AM »
Yet another perspective:

There are those who might shoot a fruit thief, but not to kill.

A shotgun loaded with rock-salt could be a memorable reminder to lay off nabbing fruit uninvited.

That actually was a not too uncommon remedy for this sort of thing some decades back.  It seemed to work.

Just sayin'

Paul M.
You beat me to it. That or a squirt of water from the hose. The problem is nowadays if yiu squirt someone with a hose you will get an assault charge, medical bill for the fall they took, and a lawsuit for emotional stress they suffered from getting caught and squirted while in your yard stealing from your tree😉😁😉😁😉

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 12, 2023, 07:51:15 PM »
Anyway, I started blasting.
We tend to get a little overly enthusiastic when flexing our bear arms in America

Crazy when I read about people suggesting shooting someone over what amounts to $10, I guess that's the value of someone's life these days?

Stealing CA grown mangoes is certainly a travesty with how hard it is to grow them here... But at the same time, I kind of understand. Today's current reality is that very few people get to experience picking fruit right off the tree, maybe something they used to do in their home country where mango trees tower 50' tall and end up dropping thousands of pounds that end up rotting away. I couldn't believe the size of mango trees in El Salvador, they made even FL ones look small.

If I really had a yard to protect, I'd have a large fence / privacy hedge with a few choice trees on the outside for public consumption. I love when I get to share fruit, even with a stranger.
I one hundred percent agree...if it is on my terms. If I give it to them, it is a gift. If they take it is is a theft. Kids are kids for sure but I mean where does it end? Dave takes $10 worth, Carl takes $5 worth, Christy takes $40 for her "family", Dale takes a $1 worth. Old Carolina get none or just worst left behind. Other folks calling me stingy for my effort. "It's just some damn fruit!" Until..."it's just a damn pair of shoes, it's just a damn steak, it's just a damn basket of groceries, it's just little car." An old guy like me knows. There are limits and at some point Thieves are not different from bullies. ;)

Thanks for the report. I was planning on making a trip to Socal to check out the nurseries in a couple months. Is there a nursery that stands out for more unique/ rare plants. Or is it best to reach out to forum members

Ong nursery is supposedly amazing. San Diego area only open on weekends. Pricey but good.

Los Angeles area check out Mimosa nursery. There are three 'Mimosa Nursery' locations in SoCal; I would not recommend the one in Anaheim. The east LA one is pretty good, the other one (Rosemead?) is IMO the best.
I have meaning to take trip to East LA but Rosemead? Did I ever tell you guys about the time I visited there and met the old cranky Chinese guy?

I bought a Diamond guava seedling about 4 years back, after tasting one of the mature Diamond guava seedlings on a past visit. The trees were gone which I tasted the fruit from, so I had to asked Steve if he had anymore. He did have some smaller 1 gal seedlings of Diamond guava, so I took a chance and grew it out.
Is a Diamond the same as a red diamond?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 11, 2023, 08:45:48 AM »
Guess they didn't read The Little Red Hen as a kid.

Oh, they read it. They read it. To one group it is a story about hard work and the rewards of it. To another group it is an instruction manual on how to wait. I'll wait until this chicken makes a crop of grain and fattens up. Then I will steal the grain, kill the chicken and make chicken sandwiches! They don't think far enough ahead to know that they will starve from laziness and or incomptence the next year. :-\

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 11, 2023, 06:56:30 AM »
Hmmm. Fruit thievery victim and former fruit thief here. When I was a kid (not starving at all) to me it was a plum tree. It was an apple tree. It was grapes. It was not property. I had no concept that someone worked to create it. If it was in someones yard it was luck that someone had it there so it was my luck to pick some fruit.

I am sure there are people who see it that way who are adults. People love to go into someone else's pockets to pay for what they themselves would never pay for.

"What's the big deal? It's just grapes! It's just a tomato! You got plenty!"

I had this conversation with a neighbor who dared call my garden/orchard the community garden and invited someone into my yard to pick. She just couldn't get her head wrapped around the concept that "I made the effort for me". I planted the grapes and tomatoes and everything else and the abundance is mine. She watched me till and cultivate and never offered to help. Not a shovel of manure or drop of water did she pay for. She refused to plant the blueberry bushes or tomato plants  that I gave her. When I tried to explain to her that just because I had plenty she wasn't entitled to take it. I said to her,"Well you have gas in your car. Can I come by and siphon some out to run my tiller if I need it when you have a full tank?" Her reply, "That's different!"

BTW. There is no way if you confront someone with a gun or anything else you are not going to win, even if it is just anger. If there is no fence, wall, barrier, they will come.

His hand looks funny. You sure there wasn't shoppity choppity with that picture?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Canistel pushes leaves but not roots
« on: August 01, 2023, 03:37:41 AM »
Looks too young.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question on Miracle Fruit Tree
« on: July 25, 2023, 06:29:36 PM »
My plant is very healthy looking, very busy, but only about 15" tall in a 3 gallon pot. At least it came with one ripe fruit on the tree so I get to taste my first fruit.

I will get my sour things in an row and try them all after eating the one berry, I hear the miracle taste only last about 30 minutes after eating the fruit.

Too bad I don't have any ripe macrophylla fruits now, only lemons and limes. Any other suggestions for fruits to try with this?
Anything!!!...that is anything with a sour component. Yogurt, kombucha, sourdough bread, old fashioned sausages, grapes, apples, fermented vegetables, cucumbers, bananas...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best time to pull foil off of grafts
« on: July 20, 2023, 08:10:37 PM »
Once the leaves start to form, I open them up. I still leave the foil on and make sure that it's protected from the sun. I do that for about a week, then will completely take it off in small increments. Maybe about an hour the first day completely off, then work from there. But it also depends on if you're growing in a greenhouse and light intensity.

We have very intense light and the grafts and leaves can go into shock if it's just pulled off. In this picture I'm leaving the foil open around the loquat scion but it's protecting it from direct sunlight.

You must have read my mind John. Yep, the grafts are loquats. Thanks for the advice the both of you guys.

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