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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Diospyros/Persimmon Crossbreeding Project.
« on: April 15, 2025, 09:55:57 AM »
Quote from: brian on April 14, 2025, 11:35:16 PM
American persimmons are always squishy, right?

I tried the astringent (hachya?) asian types a couple times and it seems like by the time they are edible they are nearly mush, and I read the american types are the same or worse!

Do people eat them with a spoon?  Or are they normally dried?
Americans are not mushy and depending on the area and the fruit they are more chewy. If you have some that hang on the tree they will dry to a chewier consistency. The same thing happes if you can starve them for water as they are ripening. Americans seem to be less watery than Asians. Nikitas gift is a watery hybrid and rossyanks is less so. Pollinated Nikita's gift have a better texture and flavor than unpollinated Nikita's gift but they are still mushy.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Has Anybody ever made a Nikita's Gift x Black Sapote Hybrid?
« on: April 14, 2025, 03:22:14 PM »
I think what you are trying to do is going to be difficult. Even if they work such as the one you suggested how do we know it would taste good? I have diospyros texana and kaki and hybrids growing in proximity to each other and I haven't noticed them being more seedy than usual. The Texana I have always has male flowers. It's a tough cross you're looking for. Keep up the work. If you can do it you will definitely have something special. Also try to reach out to people who are doing research at universities. Best of luck.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ALVA star apple Top Australian selection seeds AVAIL...
« on: April 13, 2025, 05:40:54 PM »
+1 on the question.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: "Bulletproof" Mango List
« on: April 10, 2025, 06:59:17 PM »
Has anybody tried using Reliant on mangoes?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A Brand New Mamey Hits the Books!
« on: April 10, 2025, 06:55:07 PM »
On my way!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A brand new mamey hits the books
« on: April 10, 2025, 01:19:56 PM »
Quote from: Jaboticaba45 on April 08, 2025, 09:09:43 PM

This is the G-3 mamey
Tasting amazing…my friend Bobby says like caramel fruity taste…no vegetable/pumpkin taste
I can agree with that

This is the new G-4

I am hyped up for this one
Small size of fruit will be perfect for the greenhouse
They don't taste like pumpkin or sweet potatoes? It seems like it would have that "vegetable" since it has high amounts or betacarotene. How small is small? I learned that there are some softball to baseball sized varieties. Those would interest me. Two last questions. Why would the size influence the amount of time it takes to ripen? When are we planning in the road trip!?!?! 8) 8) 8)

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Multi-graft persimmon tree.
« on: April 01, 2025, 01:50:01 PM »
Can anyone confirm whether or not the variety sold as “Chocolate” at Just Fruits and Exotics is the same as the variety sold as “chocolate” at One green world?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Jaboticaba45 Plants for Sale Local Pick up Only
« on: April 01, 2025, 06:09:28 AM »
Quote from: Jaboticaba45 on September 22, 2024, 07:40:49 PM
Hello everyone,
I have some plants I am looking to sell before winter.
They are big and need to be picked up.
I will not ship any plant. No matter size. I am too busy with college.
I'm sorry :'(


Dovyalis Hybrid! Has fruited before. Makes a small cool red fruit that is a little sour but balanced and sweet. $50

Yellow Cashew. Has fruited before. Has cool flavor for drinks. $75 This is in a 15 gallon pot!

I also have a ton of other random stuff.
Many rare jaboticabas
Plinia sp. Willow
Giant Red Crystal
etc.
I can let them go for a very good price. $50-100


and a lot of the grapes like shine muscat, giant rose, golden finger etc.
I can let them go from $15-20 each


I'm around 2 hours away from Atlanta, Huntsville, Nashville, Knoxville etc.


There's a lot more stuff I am looking to sell potentially. If you are interested, let me know and I can get you a full list and make the trip worth the while!
Best,
Ryan
Do you have anything left? I would definitely or get the dovyalis.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: April 01, 2025, 06:01:26 AM »
Quote from: Nick C on March 31, 2025, 10:36:50 PM
Anybody selling some named cultivar scions? I have a big seedling ill probably be looking to graft this year
It seems like more and more people are succeeding with growing seedlings. What is your method of growing them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: April 01, 2025, 05:59:03 AM »
Quote from: Nick C on March 31, 2025, 10:36:50 PM
Anybody selling some named cultivar scions? I have a big seedling ill probably be looking to graft this year
It seems like more and more people are succeeding with growing seedlings. What is your method of growing them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: March 31, 2025, 05:35:32 PM »
Quote from: K-Rimes on March 31, 2025, 03:18:45 PM



Calmei is growing just a few miles from me in a zone 9b location with some frost. I hope they do direct sales there but probably not.
Did they just prune? What's all that green near the plants? Is that pruning scraps or weeds or what?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anywhere to get h63a persimmon
« on: March 31, 2025, 04:11:32 PM »
Gurneys has it on sale now as"caramel cocktail".

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: March 29, 2025, 11:13:22 PM »
Which root stock do you think is most vigorous.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spring Flowering Loquat: China has done it
« on: March 26, 2025, 12:29:06 PM »
Quote from: roblack on March 26, 2025, 09:24:20 AM
https://farmnetnpr.com/loquat-festival
I hate to say it. I was there last year and the evwnt was not that great and THERE WERE NO LOQUATS TO BE FOUND when I showed up. I bought a very over priced Oliver for 60 bucks. I had planned on trying many and I actually had none. :-[ :-[ :-[.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spring Flowering Loquat: China has done it
« on: March 24, 2025, 07:19:06 PM »
I have never been able to score a Tanaka. I think my Argelino is still kicking ups dust. I need to verify if it has any fruit on it. I think I will start searching for some white varieties. I already have vista white.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: 2025 Spring Yangmei (Myrica rubra) Group Buy
« on: March 24, 2025, 07:12:15 PM »
Quote from: BestDay on March 24, 2025, 06:07:13 PM
Today






Impressive. What's your protocol?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing or tasted a 'Novak' or 'Pupello' loquat?
« on: March 24, 2025, 11:22:48 AM »
Roseanne loquat, you say? I'm starting to think that cultivar is fake. I could not find hide nor hair of it after I saw the video posted about it. Not one vendor was selling it in the UK that I could find.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing or tasted a 'Novak' or 'Pupello' loquat?
« on: March 24, 2025, 11:18:52 AM »
Khaled? Is it a relative of Algerie? I think Algerie is the parent of piera. I intend to get some of them when they become available again on Lubera. What I can report is NC, SC and coastal Virginia should be able to grow loquats unprotected in more regions because of climate change.  I am personally interested in funding research to grow more of the Chinese fruits and vegetables that are not available in the US. They have 5000 yrs of food cultuvars that we don't have and if they can come up with a spring flowering loquat we need it here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spring Flowering Loquat: China has done it
« on: March 23, 2025, 08:41:48 PM »
Quote from: Sir Graftalot on March 23, 2025, 08:26:55 PM
The Novak variety can have multiple blooms which can lead to late season harvest. Scion wood is available at AMKE Gardens, but it doesn't look these guys have received a positive review since 2022.

https://akmegardens.com/products/novak-loquat-scion-wood
I have one. I think Just Fruits and Exotics has them sometimes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spring Flowering Loquat: China has done it
« on: March 23, 2025, 07:21:33 PM »
Quote from: Sir Graftalot on March 23, 2025, 07:17:17 PM
G, Virginia Fruit Grower, has a loquat that bloomed in spring:

https://youtube.com/shorts/iEG4vS0YycU?feature=shared

Quote from: CarolinaZone on March 23, 2025, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: Sir Graftalot on March 23, 2025, 04:01:45 PM
It's been over 4 years now.

Quote from: CarolinaZone on March 23, 2025, 03:40:27 PM
I searched and found an article about a Chinese researchers 20 yr project that has produced a Spring flowering loquat.
https://sichuan.scol.com.cn/sczh/202104/58115924.html
Yeah. I didn't know about it until recently i.e. today. As far as I know it is not in production in any areas of China. Do you have any other information about it?
I had a ray's fav do that once. Then it died. :( >:( :( If his is a sport he may have something.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spring Flowering Loquat: China has done it
« on: March 23, 2025, 07:20:21 PM »
Quote from: Jaboticaba45 on March 23, 2025, 05:30:18 PM
LOL
If only we could get it...
then could be grown outside easy here :'(
I suspect that there are several Loquat varieties that we are missing out on in the US. Same with Longans and lychees. We can fund a gain of function project ( :-X :-X :o :o ;D ;D ;D)but can't get the department of Ag to do what they did 100 years ago and bring back plants for us to grow. Hahaha. Who ready for a road trip?
 ;D ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spring Flowering Loquat: China has done it
« on: March 23, 2025, 04:57:24 PM »
Quote from: Sir Graftalot on March 23, 2025, 04:01:45 PM
It's been over 4 years now.

Quote from: CarolinaZone on March 23, 2025, 03:40:27 PM
I searched and found an article about a Chinese researchers 20 yr project that has produced a Spring flowering loquat.
https://sichuan.scol.com.cn/sczh/202104/58115924.html
Yeah. I didn't know about it until recently i.e. today. As far as I know it is not in production in any areas of China. Do you have any other information about it?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Spring Flowering Loquat: China has done it
« on: March 23, 2025, 03:40:27 PM »
I searched and found an article about a Chinese researchers 20 yr project that has produced a Spring flowering loquat.
https://sichuan.scol.com.cn/sczh/202104/58115924.html

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passing of forum member Giant Gecko
« on: March 22, 2025, 08:21:50 PM »
My condolences.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Kepel. Where can I get it.
« on: March 21, 2025, 06:14:52 PM »
Can they be airlayered? I will see if I can source some seeds if I can't find a plant.

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