The Tropical Fruit Forum

In Australia I am using the earlier version of this organic fertiliser ( I still have bags left over from bulk purchase )
https://www.nutri-tech.com.au/factsheets/life-force-gold-pellets.pdf

If you look at the analysis, it is a reasonable match for the conventional fertilisers in this post.
The NPK is reasonably close, but the N is a lot lower and the K is a bit lower.
In organic methods, that would be assumed to be ok for several reasons.
The application rate for pots is 15g per litre, so a 50 litre pot needs 750g, and that supplies 3 % N.
To get a higher whack of N you need to add more, plus you are also adding all the other nutrients too.
You will hit a point of physically adding too much fine fertiliser to your pot, causing surface matting crusting problems.
Of course you can get around this be adding less more frequently, or incorporating better deeper into the pot mix.
Personally for containers I found it better to use this type of fertiliser and a conventional type to get the NPK up.

The high NPK fertilisers also cause problems, fertiliser companies also often sell insecticides and fungicides to control problems linked to fast plant growth rates.
There can be high rates of leaching of soluble nutrients  or vaporisation of N from conventional fertilisers. You may not get the full benefit of whats in the bag.

The "Gift Fruit" in Japan also has a level of presentation attached, nicely boxed along with beautiful fruit.
Even the regular fruit gets much more attention to quality and presentation than in Australia.
The Sumo Dekopons in Australia don't look as good as the ones in these pics.
Fruit here  is very variable in shape size and neck, warty skin, and often been in storage too long.
After I got some fruit with seeds, I gave up buying them.
I guess in Japan they also have an outlet for other uses like Juice or Candy for Dekopon fruit?
I am pretty sure I also bought some at normal prices in a 4 pack from a suburban Japanese supermarket.

Thanks for that info about Ginza, good to narrow down the locations.
The Kabosu look interesting. I usually saw green Sudachi and Kabosu in the shops, not these older fruit.
You found them in a coffee shop ?
I also enjoyed finding Citrus trees in peoples gardens, along with Ume plum trees and Flowering quince.

pagnr, have you ever read Lord of the Flies? How did you open the coconuts? How would one open coconuts without manmade tools? Thanks!

A tomahawk, a small machete, carried in. Green coconuts are pretty tough, and if you want the drinking juice you have to be accurate with the whacker.
If you can get the outer husk off you can bust brown coconuts on a rock but you will lose the liquid.
A coconut scraper is also good as it makes the hard nut taste sweeter.
There is another special tool for scraping out soft green jelly flesh into strips.
Lord of the Flies was banned on all our trips, in case anybody got ideas.

I thought Sanbokan had a better complexity of flavour than NZ Lemonade, but that is very subjective.
Eating vs Juicing could also make a difference.
I agree not the same.

i donate $10 for a socal category.  you donate $15 dollars.  kelly donates $55 dollars.  hapa joe donates $40 dollars.  this is the only effective method to discover the social value of the socal category.


In Australia and I am sure everywhere else we have a problem of set fines not being relevant to income.
If a parking fine is $ 50, a wealthy person may keep the park space and pay the fine, a less well off gets a higher burden for the same fine.
Sâme for speeding fines, a $200 speeding fine is noe equivalent across society ( but now demerit points are added so you can't accumulate fines and pay your way out without some punishment.)
My point is that $1 is not equal across the board.
If a child donates $10 of their birthday or chore money, that has higher impact value than a CEO donating $1000 ( and tax deducting too ).
That is why we also have 1 person 1 vote, not votes based on tax income or property rates bills, which has been proposed.

Just my two cents worth.......

Possibly a poppy seed ?

There are quite a few Citrus in Asia that are well known there but not seen in the West much.
Japan has numerous types, other countries have Citrons, Oranges, Mandarins ( Thailand ) that we don't see outside collections.

Is it possible to track down fresh fruit ? Those 2 links seem to be different Citrus types.
They may be different ? Daladan and Daladan Sweet Orange ?
Some of the UC Riverside collection may have been shuffled or mixed up or regrafted as a few older types do not  seem to match the original descriptions ?
( The Daladan Sweet Orange dates back to 1930 intro, must have been re propagated to C 35 Citrange which was bred in the 1950's )





 

Dr Who had the Vogans.
Star Trek had the Vulcans
Buffy had the Vamps
Elvis had Vegas
V had the Visitors.
Vegans does also ring a bell from a Sci Fi, Was it V ?

Austromyrtus Dulcis..
They are very nice, noting that they are small but prolific. Also being in the Myrtaceae, they have a slight hint of gum leaf/tea tree type factor in the flavour profile.
Something like the resinous skin flavour element of Jaboticaba, with a more Australian bush kick ?
Is that over generous ?? Most people I know like them, and can eat a lot at once.
There are a few species, some hybrids and a little known one from Cape York.

Atroctocarpus fitsalanii It is a beautiful tree, gardenia scented flowers, fruit is like a poor version of Black sapote. Seedy.
I am surprised you bought that one, they line the beach at Cow Bay and other spots along there.
Garcinia warrenii is an actual Native Mangosteen, probably better than the Yellow Mangosteen. I think you can find it on the rainforest boardwalk, and other similar spots.

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What is God? It is only a subject that has inspired some of the finest writing in the history of Western civilization — and yet the first two pages of Google results for the question are comprised almost entirely of Sweet’N Low evangelical proselytizing to the unconverted. (The first link the Google algorithm served me was from the Texas ministry, Life, Hope & Truth.) The Google search for God gets nowhere near Augustine, Maimonides, Spinoza, Luther, Russell, or Dawkins. Billy Graham is the closest that Google can manage to an important theologian or philosopher. For all its power and influence, it seems that Google can’t really be bothered to care about the quality of knowledge it dispenses. It is our primary portal to the world, but has no opinion about what it offers, even when that knowledge it offers is aggressively, offensively vapid. — Franklin Foer, The Death of the Public Square

If Augustine, Maimonides, Spinoza, Luther, Russell, or Dawkins want to be higher in the Google search rankings they should all get off their butts and optimise their web pages.

I remember that show, V.
An extraterrestrial race arrives on Earth with seemingly good intentions, only to slowly reveal their true machinations the more ingrained into society they become.

The rootstock is from a Halo orange, and we started it from seed 7 years ago up north, and brought it south with us in 2016. I grafted a Cara Cara, and a Honeybell to it about 5 years ago. It was doing great for 4 years.

First question, do you have the disease in your area ?
Since you started from seed, then grafted to other varieties, could that have transmitted the disease ?
Have you had any significant freezes or heatwaves on that tree that could have caused shock ?