The Tropical Fruit Forum

Curious if anyone has experience with A. kemando in the U.S.

Was browsing Anderson Tropicals and saw seeds for sale; a little more reading and I found that they thrive in tropical lowland swamps. In the same sense that people suggest pond apple for wetlands/saturated soils for grafting Annonas, I wonder if this could be a good rootstock for similar soil conditions for grafting jackfruit or other artocarpus species.
 
Such little information online, interested in peoples thoughts and experiences.

In my experience, RevivalR00ts has always been an absolute pleasure to work with and buy from. I can't imagine that a well-renowned seller with a massive collection is going to be hoarding scions from a giveaway to sell, especially... mulberries. The only issues I've ever experienced is accidentally killing the wonderful things I have purchased 

With that, Nate, you also have a great reputation on the forum, though I don't think I have purchased from you personally. Its pretty obvious that your initial comment was retaliatory from the burkartiana post, and I think that the issue you described here could likely be addressed privately before stirring up the pot on forum posts, regardless of prior disagreements and/or differences of opinions.

This is a forum to share a wealth of knowledge and material to expand fruit growing, not a place for drama. I think all parties should treat each other with kindness and respect, whether its a species correction, disagreement, or sales post, as that will only improve the efficacy of the TFF 


Onward from that, anyone interested in these mulberry varieties should definitely contact RevivalR00ts while available! Looks like some interesting Persian varieties that I'm not really familiar with.

Scott, if you dont find anyone to trade/buy from here, your best bet would be to browse the North American Scion Exchange on Facebook.
I took a quick look and saw Daniel Spencer offer Tropical Treat, along with a ton of other great varieties, throughout most of last year for $5 a stick. He also considers trades. That would probably be a good bet.

Made some yangmei ice cream with some frozen fruit this past weekend and had it with the wife-

I really really liked it-

Hope to be getting some crops in texas in a few years, these were unnamed fruit

How was the consistency of the ice cream? Curious what the water content is of the fruit, haven't tried yangmei yet.
Glad y'all had to opportunity to do so, looks really good!

I feel like a nicely ripe canistel would mix perfectly with vanilla ice cream.

Starting from seed is the best whether it be pushing ultra tropical or low chill stuff in a hotter climate.
It’s been tried and true.

Sorry the pawpaw didn’t work out for you Dan.
I gotta send you a message one of these days regarding a trade hope you are doing well.

lol No worries boss, no blame on you! I shouldve sent that tree back to IL.
I agree that starting from seed is definitely the best in hot climates.

@Brian - It was very interesting to me, having grown up in IL where pawpaw are native, that I too never met a soul that knew they existed. When I got older and looked into it online, I was suprised that there are tons of random pawpaw festivals and orchards throughout the more rural areas of the midwest.
Looks like you just missed the York County Annual Pawpaw Fest...

My experience has been poor, though I do wish I had more space (and time) to work with things.
I bought a beautiful Susquehanna off Jabo45. Though I adjusted it slowly (fenced + partially shaded yard, conditions are good), peak summer was too intense and the graft died after awhile, but the rootstock continued to grow. I planted a bunch of seeds from fruit I ordered too and had great germination after a few weeks in the fridge, but I sold them all.
I suppose starting from seed may be the play, though who knows how long that'll take to actually find one to produce fruit with low-chill (and tasty fruit, at that).

I think JCorte has been growing pawpaw in CA, Laguna Beach with some success? (or somewhere in Orange County). Im no South Cali expert, but I think the more temperate weather (relative to FL) offers way better growing conditions for most potential zone-pushers.

I tried Honeyberry as well, the strawberry sensation are being trialed for Zone 9-10 so I thought I'd hop on the bandwagon. Unfortunately, my 3-gals suffered the same mid-Summer fate as my pawpaws. They were thriving for months with dappled shade.

There are some stone fruits i'd like to try but the few people I know bothering with tropical peaches here have never gotten fruit set.

Overall, I'd say my poor experience is more from lack of proper care in more intense + direct sun; but if a healthy, mature plant can't tolerate it, especially compared to plenty of thriving plants here suited to these conditions, I dont think its ready to stretch this far south - yet.
I think any potential zone pushers would fare much better in South Cali, given you can provide it adequate water. And honeyberries are dope, I recommend honeyberryusa.

Going Bananas in Homestead usually carries them, I would reach out. They wont ship but maybe you can find someone in Homestead who'll help out.

https://www.amazon.com/iPower-Plant-Grow-Gallon-6-Pack/dp/B0B2P71753/ref=sr_1_8?crid=29LSEEMNAZ2AQ&keywords=15%2Bgallon%2Bgrow%2Bbags&qid=1702060884&sprefix=15%2Bgallon%2Bgrow%2Bbag%2Caps%2C180&sr=8-8&th=1

I believe I purchased this brand, iPower. Nothing crazy, but these 15-gals have outlasted most fabric 3-gal pots around here. Handles still hold the weight of the mango after almost 2 yrs, so good enough for me. Theyre roughly all the same quality tbh.

As far as soil mix, I agree with Avofan. They can dry out quickly, especially during the summer. I end up watering daily for most things during peak summer down here anyways.
I dont recall the ratio I used for soil, but something similar to a generic seed starting mix that can hold a decent amount of moisture, usually a good amount of peat moss or coco coir. A thin layer of mulch helped too.

active mods... good question.

I'd probably reach out to JakeFruit or pj1881

From the USDA APHIS website (https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/resources/traveler/intl-travel/plants-seeds/plants-seeds):

Travelers may bring seeds of admissible herbaceous plants for planting if they meet the following conditions:

- The seeds are not otherwise prohibited, protected under the Endangered Species Act or Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora, or subject to any special restrictions, such as post-entry quarantine or treatment*

- You have a phytosanitary certificate issued by the National Plant Protection Organization of the country you are leaving indicating the seeds are free of pests and diseases

- U.S. Customs and Border Protection inspects the seeds at the first port of entry and determines they are free of pests and diseases and meet all entry requirements

*Please call APHIS’ Plant Import Information Line at 877-770-5990 (toll-free) or by email at plantproducts.permits@aphis.usda.gov.


Some information on USDA websites indicates that tree and shrub seeds can be brought back to the US per requirements listed above, yet some sources say none can be brought back with passenger luggage. Best course of action would be to shoot an email inquiry to that listed email.

Female papaya's that dont get pollinated will produce seedless fruit, i believe they are considered parthenocarpic.
I prefer the taste of seedless papaya, much milder. Lucky find!

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