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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help ID Persimmon Variety
« on: November 20, 2022, 02:51:54 PM »
Carolinazone, interesting comment you make about the rootstock of American types, I did not know that.

" If the rootstock is American it will eventually put out rootsuckers (sometimes at a fair distance from the tree). I don't think Asian rootstocks do that. Often the root suckers are mistaken for seedlings."

I have 3 adult asian persimmon trees, all over 30 yrs old in ground. I tried to cut down one of the trees since it was to close to a block wall (property border) but I did not have time so just used a chain saw to cut it down to 12" from ground level. That stump ended up having the rootstock growing up, and that tree has many of these root suckers you mention that came out 12" or more away from the stump (trunk) of the tree that is cut off. Now that rootstock branches are tall, over 8ft and it has never had any fruits yet. It will be interesting to see what type of fruit it has. I can see that the branches are much more vigorous and grow wild, maybe 6 ft per year or more. Much different from the rootstock that I have on the Matsumoto persimmon photos above which grows more like the named variety branches.
Actually that was Galatians talking about the root suckers. I'm not that smart ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help ID Persimmon Variety
« on: November 20, 2022, 11:09:40 AM »
Galatians522, your fruits are large. The ones on my shoots are smaller, looks clean but probably half the size of your fruits.

I cut one and tried it today, taste is getting better, getting a little sweet, just slightly astringent flavor. I will need to wait until it gets soft and try it again. I still have about a dozen fruits on my tree so I will eat some in another week.




You sure that's an American? I have never seen an American with that shape of seed cavity. Could you take picture next to a quarter? To be honest if it ripens sweet that may be worth cloning.

I am no authority on the difference between species. But it is my understanding that American persimmons that get pollinated by Asian are almost always seedless (and vice versa) because of different chromisome levels. I have seen some American fruits that were that general shape. If the rootstock is American it will eventually put out rootsuckers (sometimes at a fair distance from the tree). I don't think Asian rootstocks do that. Often the root suckers are mistaken for seedlings.
I pretty sure that is an asian persimmon. I looked for a picture of ab american with that seed pattern and I couldnt find one. We need to see one that mushy ripe to know.

My Nikita's gift  trees had seeds this year but my Rossyanka didn't. There are American persimmon trees all other the neighborhood. I'm curious about why my trees do that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help ID Persimmon Variety
« on: November 18, 2022, 06:22:15 PM »
Galatians522, your fruits are large. The ones on my shoots are smaller, looks clean but probably half the size of your fruits.

I cut one and tried it today, taste is getting better, getting a little sweet, just slightly astringent flavor. I will need to wait until it gets soft and try it again. I still have about a dozen fruits on my tree so I will eat some in another week.




You sure that's an American? I have never seen an American with that shape of seed cavity. Could you take picture next to a quarter? To be honest if it ripens sweet that may be worth cloning.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu seedling tips needed
« on: November 12, 2022, 05:51:15 PM »
Don't let them get much below 50F and don't let them dry out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to take plants in?
« on: November 10, 2022, 05:33:45 AM »
It depends on the day and nighttime highs and lows. I'm bringing all my plants in this weekend even though I think most of them could take nighttime 35 degrees. Only thing I'm not prioritizing is citrus.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Campechiana sapodilla
« on: October 28, 2022, 07:42:39 PM »
What is the address of Echo. I have never been there before and would like to visit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango fungus help
« on: October 21, 2022, 07:14:37 PM »
Has any body here tried systemic fungicides? It worked for my quince trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Latest blooming loquat varieties?
« on: October 18, 2022, 06:42:57 PM »
The first Ray's Fave I had (and killed) had blooms on it in late July. I purchased it in Florida. I think Blooming behavior may be influenced by climate. I have not seen this behaviour in the Ray's Faves I have now.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Seedy finger limes: Is this normal
« on: October 09, 2022, 01:42:48 PM »
So are you going to be offering seeds for sale?
I'd be more likely to give them away.  ;D

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Citrus General Discussion / Seedy finger limes: Is this normal
« on: October 08, 2022, 07:52:50 PM »
When I see finger limes advertised they never have seeds. Mine do. Is it the time I picked them or is this normal and the picture we see are doctored?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What is this funky stuff on my white sapote?
« on: October 07, 2022, 07:00:45 PM »
I'm trying to figure out what the discoloration is on the skin of my Vernon Sapote tree purchased at Home Depot in Indio California about 2 years ago. It started as 3 gal and was upsized to a 7 gal. Flowered in Early Spring. It tasted sweet with a sugarcane like flavor. There was no caramel undertone like the one I tasted from the tree at Clausens in Vista. The texture and flavor  is very similar to a pawpaw but with a little graininess like a pear.  The level of sweetness was like a just ripe cavandish banana. Not at all cloying. The skin was much like a pear with no bitterness. One half had a slight citrus flavor more like orange or tangerine than lemon or lime or grapefruit. Zero sourness. There is a slight tannin aftertaste that may be from the pieces of skin I ate. It had two large well developled seeds and two that were not developed. I would say it was 50% pulp.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Butterscotch sapodilla
« on: October 07, 2022, 06:01:53 PM »
Mine doesn't seem to be a vigorous grower in a pot. This is year two of a plant I purchased in 7 gal. I have upsized once from a seven to a 15 gal for my ego's sake ;D ;D :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Denzel white sapote pollination?
« on: September 30, 2022, 05:17:10 PM »
Denzel? ??? ???

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Wampee in season
« on: September 26, 2022, 05:59:44 PM »
My wampee tree is doing better every year.  More fruits and taste is better every year.


Are  these sweet? Sell me some more seeds!! ;D ;D ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora tripartita (var. molissima?)
« on: September 26, 2022, 05:43:39 PM »
Much more beautiful than regular passiflora. How does the fruit taste?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: first canistel ripened
« on: September 26, 2022, 05:41:08 PM »
Hey Bryan,
How long from flower to fruit. I have several canistels. All of them from 2 to 4 years old. Any tips on fertilizer and lighting?

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Ruby supreme is a "pink" guava but it is a specific cultivar. I think it is a cross of "ruby" with something else. I can't remember but I'm sure a quick interweb search would reveal it.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: WTB 日向夏 Hyuganatsu
« on: September 21, 2022, 06:15:11 PM »
UC Riverside has it in their collection.
You would need to contact CCPP (California’s Citrus Clonal Protection Program), convince them that it would be commercially viable. Get them to grow it out for a few years until it is disease free. Then get it.
I'm sure no one else in the US has it readily available.
Thank you for your gracious, informative and helpful reply.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: WTB 日向夏 Hyuganatsu
« on: September 20, 2022, 05:55:26 PM »
Japan.
I might be going next month but I wouldn't want to try to import(i.e. smuggle) a scion and I wouldn't even know where to go if I wanted too ;D Are there any sources in the US that I can buy it? I was wondering if the Dept. of Ag had a tissue database. Any help would be appreciated.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / WTB 日向夏 Hyuganatsu
« on: September 19, 2022, 06:44:16 PM »
Where would I buy scions for this?

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I don't know. Anyways...Have you seen the video of the avocado that is HUUUGGGEEE that is growing ouside in London?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=554u7KB81M8

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Ray's Fav Loquat
« on: September 15, 2022, 07:40:09 PM »
I have four of them. All small 3gals that I purchased 2020. They come from Hopkins nursery and I think "Ray" is one of their relatives.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless lychee
« on: September 11, 2022, 05:26:20 PM »
Flies pollinate lychees?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless lychee
« on: September 11, 2022, 01:21:16 PM »
What do you feed your trees? Mine are that big but not as bushy. Mine live in 25 gal pots.

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