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Bizzarria Orange
« on: July 14, 2022, 07:43:08 PM »
Hello,
Anyone on here have a Bizzarria Orange?
https://agrumilenzi.it/en/negozio/citrusen/bizzarria-orange-citrus-aurantium/
Is this something I could do myself through grafting? Doesnt look like these are talked about much here.

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Re: Bizzarria Orange
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2022, 09:41:05 PM »
I used to have a large in ground Bizzarria orange tree (6-ft.tall and 8-ft wide) It produced a lot of fruit, but the only thing one can do with the fruit is look at them.  I finally chopped the tree out and replaced it with a Red Grapefruit.

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Re: Bizzarria Orange
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2022, 12:21:47 AM »
Are the fruit no good for eating? Where they bizarre to look at, at least?

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Re: Bizzarria Orange
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2022, 07:25:50 AM »
Is this something I could do myself through grafting?

There have been constructed graft hybrids between Tomato and Solanum nigrum.
If I remember correctly one technique was to split a bud eye in half, and match in another half from the other plant.
When the healed bud shoots out, it grows as a chimera shoot.
Accidental graft chimeras probably grow from callus shoots at the graft union.

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Re: Bizzarria Orange
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2022, 10:15:07 AM »
Is this something I could do myself through grafting?

There have been constructed graft hybrids between Tomato and Solanum nigrum.
If I remember correctly one technique was to split a bud eye in half, and match in another half from the other plant.
When the healed bud shoots out, it grows as a chimera shoot.
Accidental graft chimeras probably grow from callus shoots at the graft union.

I've looked into this and came across a few research papers on it. I can't seem to find the publication that I remember being quite helpful but here is another with useful information https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/INTERVARIETAL-CHIMERA-FORMATION-BY-GRAFTING-IN-By-A-Zhou-Gmitter/9cc8c9efb8b18f3a093e93bf8e3f3f3b656ed382

It is far from being a sure-science but there seems to be a 10-20% success rate when following published procedures.

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Re: Bizzarria Orange
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2022, 04:59:58 PM »
It is far from being a sure-science but there seems to be a 10-20% success rate when following published procedures.

10 to 20 % seems pretty good.
Much better than waiting for an accidental graft hybrid.
Since the Chimera is fully 100 % type A plus Type B, ( tetraploid ? ) that is probably a better % than hybridisation via pollination and seed growing.
(You would get a 50/50 hybrid by crossing, some of those won't be useful cultivars )
This method in the research paper seems to be using seedlings, which are still a way off fruiting ?
I wonder if you could shoot tip approach graft from  mature flowering plants or cuttings for faster flowering Chimeras ?

I couldn't find the research papers re Solanum Chimeras either.

 

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