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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2024, 08:34:00 PM »
Just cause it's rare...and a quite new introduction!
the jabo market has been like this for the last few years  :-[
It should be similar to plinia rara.
Erm yeah, some diehard plinia collectors will have this, and that's about it. I haven't bought it yet and I have over 100 varieties of plinias.
Frost tolerance on these tropical big green plinias are not as good as a regular jaboticaba like sabara.

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2024, 08:40:41 PM »

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2024, 08:54:02 PM »
$350 for a SEED for goodness sake! And it's not even cold hardy?! That 550 smackeroo one up for sale at HapaJoe looks to have some leaf burns too.

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2024, 09:31:06 PM »
$350 for a SEED for goodness sake! And it's not even cold hardy?! That 550 smackeroo one up for sale at HapaJoe looks to have some leaf burns too.
I bought a plinia yasuniana seed for $250 earlier this year.
Luckily it sprouted and is doing good.
It's always fun to get a few super duper rare and expensive seeds so you realize that you can't do anything when it decides to not sprout.

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2024, 09:40:40 PM »
Just cause it's rare...and a quite new introduction!
the jabo market has been like this for the last few years  :-[

Do you think that its price will drop eventually? I know that the price of new Eugenias tends to fall off within a few seasons, but is it like that for Plinias, too?
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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2024, 10:31:45 PM »
Just cause it's rare...and a quite new introduction!
the jabo market has been like this for the last few years  :-[

Do you think that its price will drop eventually? I know that the price of new Eugenias tends to fall off within a few seasons, but is it like that for Plinias, too?
They should, but with big green rare plinias I think they generally stabilize at 50-150 each seed.
It's hard to find them in the wild anyways, so the collectors in Brazil and central America will charge a good bit of $ to even import them to the USA.
So yeah it won't get much cheaper than how it is given rarity in wild and import costs.

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2024, 11:12:43 PM »
It would probably be profitable just to go all the way to brazil to get some lol

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2024, 11:18:31 PM »
Because these are at least 2 year old saplings and not seeds. I don't sell seeds anymore and soon once I am sold out will not sell seedling anymore. I know what I want to grow now so not traveling as much and back to teaching and just collecting. As for this species, these were germinated seeds we found under the mother tree and I imported them from my Bahia trip two years ago. I had an extra one to sell but I'll probably just keep it now. Don't really need the money and would rather have an extra ultra rare already grown tree.

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2024, 11:34:44 PM »
I know what I want to grow now so not traveling as much and back to teaching and just collecting.

Aww, I had wondered what happened. I came late to the party, but I really loved going back and reading all of your travel logs where you talked about all the species you encountered. That totally makes sense, though, I hope your job and your plants prosper!  :D
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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2024, 11:35:01 PM »
Because these are at least 2 year old saplings and not seeds. I don't sell seeds anymore and soon once I am sold out will not sell seedling anymore. I know what I want to grow now so not traveling as much and back to teaching and just collecting. As for this species, these were germinated seeds we found under the mother tree and I imported them from my Bahia trip two years ago. I had an extra one to sell but I'll probably just keep it now. Don't really need the money and would rather have an extra ultra rare already grown tree.
Wow, Joe, you're here and commenting on my post. What an honor. By no means am I trying to single you out on pricing - just pointing out the high price of some of the things in this niche market in general.

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2024, 11:40:49 PM »
$350 for a SEED for goodness sake! And it's not even cold hardy?! That 550 smackeroo one up for sale at HapaJoe looks to have some leaf burns too.
I bought a plinia yasuniana seed for $250 earlier this year.
Luckily it sprouted and is doing good.
It's always fun to get a few super duper rare and expensive seeds so you realize that you can't do anything when it decides to not sprout.

Nice! I need to get myself a trophy plant like that.

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2024, 11:47:42 PM »
I know what I want to grow now so not traveling as much and back to teaching and just collecting.

Aww, I had wondered what happened. I came late to the party, but I really loved going back and reading all of your travel logs where you talked about all the species you encountered. That totally makes sense, though, I hope your job and your plants prosper!  :D
same, guess i will just have to do the traveling myself...

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2024, 02:44:28 PM »
Aww man! Someone bought the seedling longiacuminata from Hapa Joe. I was slowly filling up my piggy for this one!!

https://hapajoesnursery.com/products/plinia-longiacuminata-extremely-rare?srsltid=AfmBOorR66lpe67BjY6EZxJWQ3ed8_wShMmwBao6l8lio_pnNbEMxXN7

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2024, 02:46:04 PM »
Aww man! Someone bought the seedling longiacuminata from Hapa Joe. I was slowly filling up my biggie for this one!!

https://hapajoesnursery.com/products/plinia-longiacuminata-extremely-rare?srsltid=AfmBOorR66lpe67BjY6EZxJWQ3ed8_wShMmwBao6l8lio_pnNbEMxXN7
I would keep an eye on the ebay auctions, I have seen longiacuminata twice I think, you could also message Kameron Bellamy of BellamyTrees and see if/when he might have some available

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2024, 02:52:13 PM »
Aww man! Someone bought the seedling longiacuminata from Hapa Joe. I was slowly filling up my biggie for this one!!

https://hapajoesnursery.com/products/plinia-longiacuminata-extremely-rare?srsltid=AfmBOorR66lpe67BjY6EZxJWQ3ed8_wShMmwBao6l8lio_pnNbEMxXN7
I would keep an eye on the ebay auctions, I have seen longiacuminata twice I think, you could also message Kameron Bellamy of BellamyTrees and see if/when he might have some available

Thanks for the info. According to Bellamy's website, it's sold out. AndersonsTropicals is out too.

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2024, 02:56:32 PM »
have you looked into plinia callosa? it seems similar to longiacuminata and rara. Bellamytrees has some available for "Cheap" https://www.bellamytrees.com/seeds/p/plinia-callosa

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2024, 03:17:14 PM »
have you looked into plinia callosa? it seems similar to longiacuminata and rara. Bellamytrees has some available for "Cheap" https://www.bellamytrees.com/seeds/p/plinia-callosa

This one's gonna be that trophy plant that I had mentioned earlier, it's gonna be the tops or nothing 🤩

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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2024, 04:40:16 PM »
This one's gonna be that trophy plant that I had mentioned earlier, it's gonna be the tops or nothing 🤩

I hope that you'll show it off to us forum users often if you go for it! With these rare species, even a new leaf would be *ahem* valuable documentation~

(I wish the people who bought the longiacuminatas would post about them somewhere as well, I want to seeee!)
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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2024, 05:44:23 PM »
Because these are at least 2 year old saplings and not seeds. I don't sell seeds anymore and soon once I am sold out will not sell seedling anymore. I know what I want to grow now so not traveling as much and back to teaching and just collecting. As for this species, these were germinated seeds we found under the mother tree and I imported them from my Bahia trip two years ago. I had an extra one to sell but I'll probably just keep it now. Don't really need the money and would rather have an extra ultra rare already grown tree.

If people think $500 is rare for a plant like this, they should look at how much some philodendrons and such cost that are, number-wise for number of plants in existence, much more expensive.  Whoever is selling yangmei on ebay for >$500 (a user here, I'm pretty sure) IMO is still charging a reasonable price for a healthy well-rooted tree. After all, isn't part of the fun of this very hobby growing something unusual and somewhat obscure?  And unlike the super-expensive houseplants, these plants produce unique fruits.

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2024, 07:24:59 PM »
This one's gonna be that trophy plant that I had mentioned earlier, it's gonna be the tops or nothing 🤩

I hope that you'll show it off to us forum users often if you go for it! With these rare species, even a new leaf would be *ahem* valuable documentation~

(I wish the people who bought the longiacuminatas would post about them somewhere as well, I want to seeee!)

Will do on that, and yeah, would love to see how it grows. Wonder how many of these are out there.

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2024, 07:27:32 PM »
Because these are at least 2 year old saplings and not seeds. I don't sell seeds anymore and soon once I am sold out will not sell seedling anymore. I know what I want to grow now so not traveling as much and back to teaching and just collecting. As for this species, these were germinated seeds we found under the mother tree and I imported them from my Bahia trip two years ago. I had an extra one to sell but I'll probably just keep it now. Don't really need the money and would rather have an extra ultra rare already grown tree.

If people think $500 is rare for a plant like this, they should look at how much some philodendrons and such cost that are, number-wise for number of plants in existence, much more expensive.  Whoever is selling yangmei on ebay for >$500 (a user here, I'm pretty sure) IMO is still charging a reasonable price for a healthy well-rooted tree. After all, isn't part of the fun of this very hobby growing something unusual and somewhat obscure?  And unlike the super-expensive houseplants, these plants produce unique fruits.

Ah, time for a poll...

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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2024, 09:02:44 PM »
Oh did you see the video from when we found longiacuminata? We also found the red Plinia rara and Plinia callosa. 

Here it is https://youtu.be/Zn0jjrRN8NQ?si=KsXSOjd2L5XnCMT5

Here is a picture of the new leaves. Beautiful species.


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Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2024, 03:18:07 AM »
Oh did you see the video from when we found longiacuminata? We also found the red Plinia rara and Plinia callosa. 

Here it is https://youtu.be/Zn0jjrRN8NQ?si=KsXSOjd2L5XnCMT5

Here is a picture of the new leaves. Beautiful species.


Oh my gosh. That gorgeous new growth, wow?? And the fruit even ripens to pink? I might become a Plinia longiacuminata fangirl, who knows  :D

I love that entire video, I kind of just watched in awe the entire time. You guys really know what you're doing out there, it's sooo cool! The excitement for each of the plants you featured was totally palpable. (That exclamation at the end though, "that's a whole lot of nope!" that's why I'll never be going myself ahaha)

Thanks for sharing the pic of the baby Plinia, too! That's your longiacuminata? It looks adorable!
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