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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting persimmon in zone 7a (north NJ)
« on: April 25, 2025, 05:00:28 PM »
Congrats on the graft. As soon as I cut the rootstock tree the rootstock made buds on the trunk, within a week. Not seeing anything happening on the grafts yet but there is condensation collecting under the parafilm hopefully it doesn't cause issues.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: newly purchased feijoa not looking good
« on: April 23, 2025, 01:26:06 PM »
Was it under glass or growing out in the open? Perhaps it wasn't hardened off to the sun and it got burned. My potted feijoa drinks plenty of water- the pot dries out in the growing season almost every other day. I put it out in shade in March and just the other day have moved it to full sun- no sunburn yet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seed grown cherimoya from Rincon Tropics
« on: April 22, 2025, 04:20:19 PM »
Thanks! Interesting observation, I wonder if there is a day length requirement to push new leaves not just temperature. I didn't strip my sugar apple graft on cherimoya next to it, will let it continue to grow this spring and summer

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seed grown cherimoya from Rincon Tropics
« on: April 22, 2025, 01:36:44 PM »
Upotted to a 5 gallon and stripped the leaves. Hopefully some flowers soon?



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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Any idea which cherry variety this is?
« on: April 21, 2025, 03:14:05 PM »
I lost the tags for my multi-grafted tree, had pics of the old tags but didn't get one for whatever this is. It has "double" flowers:


compared to the other varieties:


In this basket from last year: Stella, Rainer, Royal Ann, and the unkown (not in that order)



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this scion wood viable???
« on: April 20, 2025, 11:43:41 PM »
Probably stored too long and are on their way out. I ordered sticks from a store on etsy and they arrived slighly more brown than that and even after finding some healthier looking areas on the scions- the grafts all failed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic scale control
« on: April 20, 2025, 09:44:44 PM »
I just found scale on a sapling sweet lime, I'm trying kaolin clay this year so I went ahead and sprayed the citrus trees mostly the trunks so we'll see if that helps. Oddly enough it was the only tree, I've never had scale on anything here. It must have come with the repti bark that I used.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Opuntia humifusa
« on: April 20, 2025, 09:37:08 PM »
I ended up securing it with a stake, it will probably get pretty heavy that will be an issue in the future with the pad underneath shriveling it will topple over without adequate support! Will probably need to change these metal ties to wide cloth straps so the ties don't start cutting into the pads.


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting persimmon in zone 7a (north NJ)
« on: April 20, 2025, 09:33:31 PM »
This week was very warm so I took advantage, kept 1 large stick to try again if these grafts fail. I did cleft grafts, bud, and bark grafts. Pressure with rubber bands and zip ties on the bark grafts. Also grafted the new pawpaw varieties as those are also pushing leaves to nearby branches of the rootstock as my bark grafts from last year look weak due to the vigour they shot right up causing wind sheer. Those are secure but I don't know how strong they will be this season.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is it worth growing Fredrick Passion Fruit from seed?
« on: April 20, 2025, 11:31:17 AM »
All of my vines came from seeds of commerical fruit and the fruit is decent. My newest vine which is a seedling from my older edulis produces sweeter fruit than the parent so there is definitely potential for improved fruit. I guess the fruit could be "worse" but I haven't experienced that yet

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Cold Hardy Citrus Experiment Zone7A NJ
« on: April 14, 2025, 07:49:29 PM »
Nice, Xie Shan is alive. Glad to see it can survive under some protection.

The only outdoor losses related to cold with a low of 2f citrus wise are rooted tai-tri cuttings that didn't go dormant and split open in the sun! The large taitri tree is fine though.

Lost a prague that was grafted to a rooted taitri as well. I think I will grow the cuttings out for an extra year before putting them in the ground, and planting in early spring so the roots have time to grow.

Surprisingly all my outdoor grafts of Morton surived 2f. I wonder if mine is an off-type. There is a video of the fruit in my channel on youtube. My Ichang papeda still looks alive, def hardier than Yuzu which is mostly dead- just waiting for it to finish dying lol

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Anybody grow Citremon (Lemon x trifoliate)
« on: April 13, 2025, 10:36:53 PM »
Taitri already exists (taiwanica x poncirus) but it is VERY acidic more than any lemon. The tree is super hardy though. Maybe this citremon can be crossed further or with a taitri to give it more lemon qualities and become less seedy. The taitri is very seedy.
Quote from: 1rainman on April 13, 2025, 05:35:59 PM
Pointless. A sour orange can be used exactly like a lemon no off flavors high cold tolerance high disease tolerance. Lemons are very cold sensitive except meyer. It would make more sense to do trifoliate x sour orange then cross that again with a sour orange and so on. Maybe throw meyer into the mix. Or at this point cross sundragon into the mix just dilute the trifoliate or dont use it at all just focus on sour oranges.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How screwed am I?
« on: April 13, 2025, 10:34:28 PM »
You can always poke a small hole with a needle, I notice condensation building under my grafts sometimes never thought it could be from too much parafilm wrap... makes sense!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting persimmon in zone 7a (north NJ)
« on: April 13, 2025, 08:29:38 PM »
Which techniques did you use? Maybe I'll try some before my sticks go bad if I wait any longer. I'm grafting hachiya onto jiro fuyu

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How screwed am I?
« on: April 13, 2025, 04:41:43 PM »
I've always covered the buds, even twice but making sure the film is stretched over them. The buds eventually break through and/or the film breaks down in the sun and will split on its own

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting questions
« on: April 13, 2025, 03:25:32 PM »
Whoops made a thread before seeing this. Thanks! It's still too early to graft in that case as we will continue to dip into the mid 30s and 40s overnight this coming week. Might try next Sunday!

Quote from: toehead on April 09, 2025, 12:13:03 PM
Quote from: vnomonee on March 13, 2025, 12:54:35 PM
Don't mean to hijack your thread but I am curious about what your best grafting method is for persimmon. I have some Hachiya scions in the fridge. I want to replace a jiro fuyu so I was thinking of top working it and doing bark grafts and cleft grafts? Or should I keep some of the branches and do whip and tongue? I have never tried that graft! The jiro branches are growing in an umbrella form since I weighed the branches down, so I could potentially just graft all the sticks to those branches, would just have to keep up with pruning if any jiro buds pop out. Would much rather top work the entire tree. Could also bud around the trunk and see if any will grow, then chop the upper jiro part off? I don't want too tall of a tree either would rather bring it down.

Wanted to throw in what i've learned about persimmon grafting to get better takes.

1) Graft in warm/hot weather with an actively growing rootstock. Temps are best when they are consistently in the mid/upper 70's.
- scion should be dormant, and 2 or three nodes long.
- wrap in parafilm

2) Use a bark graft technique with much more than the usual amount of inward pressure
- Scion should be trimmed to have a LONG contact point under the slipped bark.
- Inward pressure should be maintained: I typically use hose clamps of all things.


Until I was taught those things, I was frustrated with these trees. After, it isn't very difficult to graft at all.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Grafting persimmon in zone 7a (north NJ)
« on: April 13, 2025, 02:19:48 PM »
When is the best time to graft? The tree buds are just cracking open and showing some green, should I wait for "squirrel ears" like on pawpaw?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Anybody grow Citremon (Lemon x trifoliate)
« on: April 11, 2025, 02:00:28 PM »
I grafted one a couple weeks ago, just waiting to see a take. I grafted it onto Taitri which is inside my greenhouse so it will be protected from extreme lows by a small space heater through winter.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Kumquat x Poncirus
« on: April 07, 2025, 08:39:15 PM »
Congrats! Kumquat pollen on Poncirus+ is what I wanted to do in the future as my P+ hasn't bloomed yet. Hope to see fruit soon, good idea grafting it to something vigorous.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: AKME In The News For Deceptive Claims
« on: April 02, 2025, 04:52:47 PM »
I wonder if the scions and grafted plants AKME did ship out are even the variety people paid for?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: The Elusive Michigan Citrus: A Lifetime Experiment
« on: April 02, 2025, 02:53:54 PM »
-3f seems cold but shouldn't kill Poncirus+ my Citrumelo has survived 1f here in the last couple of years and 2f from this past winter the only damage are on the younger uppershoots. I am still waiting for Poncirus+ to bloom, mine came from Kumin here which his has already fruited so mine shouldn't be too far behind. My taitri (poncirus x taiwanica) is hardier than the citrumelo and is deciduous (a great trait for hardiness). I use that bigger tree as a rootstock for other hardy hybrids. My trees are against a retaining wall so that has helped with cold tolerance for sure, out in the open cuttings of citrumelo and taitri as well as poncirus have taken damage this could be due to the cuttings being lower to the ground and staying warmer than the air which delays dormancy. They are killed by a deep freeze followed by bright sun and warmth which causes bark splitting. I will be planting more taitri cuttings and painting them, but will grow them out for an extra year to see if that will help.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Opuntia humifusa
« on: March 31, 2025, 02:42:27 PM »
As long as it doesn't break off from the weight at the graft point it should continue to grow. There are atleast 2 other opuntia species that are hardier than the cacanapa (I just need hardiness to zone 7, and roots that resist wet winters). Those other species either don't dessicate or have a more vertical growth pattern vs the humifusa horizontal spreading pattern from what I read, so I'll look into grafting onto those if I can find them. This would solve any long term issue from the weight of the cacanapa potentially sheering off the graft. A quick solution is to just build a support. The bottom humifusa pad should survive atleast 5-10 years if it doesn't rot. This part of the yard is pretty dry so it should be ok.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: I recently bred my Finger lime with my eureka lemon
« on: March 30, 2025, 11:53:27 AM »
Nice job Kevin! I want to attempt the x Yuzu cross again but my potted yuzu died and I think I am over collecting any more potted citrus lol. Will use some other citrus that I already have once the blood lime blooms again this coming season

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this 9 pound lime real?
« on: March 29, 2025, 07:42:28 PM »
Hahha! I prefer gravy on my poutine 🙈 we call them disco fries in NJ

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this 9 pound lime real?
« on: March 28, 2025, 08:16:47 PM »
The thing with growing seeds like that from a random seller in Canada, or anywhere really where citrus don't grow naturally is it could be anything. You will wait years to see results and if it's not what was claimed you wasted time and can't even leave feedback. Pictures and reviews don't mean much unless there are results in the reviews and with many citrus plants looking similar there's no way of knowning those seedlings are the correct variety. To give a postive example, I've ordered makrut seeds which were easy enough to identify once the leaves grew out and were identical to what a makrut should be.

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