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pummelo and mandarin varieties consult
« on: May 30, 2016, 09:19:58 AM »
Hi citrus folks,
I'm in the tropics at almost 1000 meters above sea level. I'm looking at adding to my citrus collection via grafting and I'd like opinions on the best 2 or 3 mandarins and best one or 2 pummelos that would perform well in our climate. My only source for budwood is the Florida Dept of Agriculture, list at the following link (not all of these are necessarily available but I can ask): http://wwwI.freshfromflorida.com/Divisions-Offices/Plant-Industry/Agriculture-Industry/Citrus-Health-Response-Program/Citrus-Budwood-Program/Variety-List
I already have a nice basic mandarin (no one knows the variety - one person said something like Dancy but when I looked up pictures of Dancy I doubted it because the ones we have don't have that little nubbin where the stem attaches - but I'd like a satsuma style and something else with intense flavor. Also I'd like to extend the season, our madarins hit in Feb/March. I have Nothing grapefruit or pummelo yet (I assume pummelo is the better choice because of its heat tolerance) so I'm wide open to suggestions there.
So. whaddya think?

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Re: pummelo and mandarin varieties consult
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2016, 04:55:22 PM »
I cant get that page. At 450 to 700m  altitude and 17 latitude just west of here around the Atherton tablelands commercial growers go for the more heat tolerant selections that are quite different from cooler climate selections.They might not be available in Florida. Emperor, hiskson and and Ellendale mandarins and some honey murcott tangor. Many varieties wont tolerate the climate.These are also the preferred varieties for the tropical lowlands such as yards in Cairns. Grapefruit are dominated by ruby red. Pommelo is carters red and Van roi and there are other reds and whites.

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Re: pummelo and mandarin varieties consult
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2016, 04:57:19 PM »
Make that Hickson Mandarin/Mandarine.

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Re: pummelo and mandarin varieties consult
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2016, 07:15:40 PM »
hmm no Hickson - here's the list:
A
 ABERS NARROW LEAF SO
 AFRICAN S/O
 AKCAY SEKERLISI
 ALAMOEN PUMMELO
 AMBERSWEET
 ARGENTINE S/O
 ATALANTIA
 AUSTRALIAN ROUND LIME

B
 BABOON LEMON
 BATANGAS TANGERINE
 BEARSS LEMON
 BENTON CITRANGE
 BERGAMOT
 BERNA SWEET/O
 BIGARADIER APEPU S/O
 BITTERSWEET
 BLOOD RED GFT
 BOUQUET DE FLEURS
 BOX ORANGE
 BRAZILIAN LEMON
 BUDD BLOOD ORANGE
 BUDDHA'S HAND CITRON
 BURGUNDY GRAPEFRUIT

C
 C. OBOVOIDEA
 C. MACROPHYLLA
 C. IYO
 C.TAIWANICA
 CALAMONDIN
 CENT VAR NAGAMI
 CHANGSHA MANDARIN
 CHINESE PUMMELO
 CHINOTTO S/O
 CITRADIA
 CITRANGEQUAT HYBRID
 CITRUS OF MOI
 CLEMENTINE MAN
 COMMON DULCE RIBERIA

D
 DAISY MANDARIN
 DANCY TANGERINE
 DELTA VALENCIA

E
 ELLENDALE TANGOR
 EMPRESS MAN
 EREMOCITRUS GLAUCA
 ESCONDIDO LEMON
 ETROG CITRON
 EUREKA LEMON
 EUSTIS LIMEQUAT

F
 FAIRCHILD MAN
 FALLGLO
 FAUSTRIMEDIN
 FINA SODEA
 FLAME
 FLYING DRAGON P TRIF
 FORTUNELLA POLYANDRA
 FORTUNELLA CRASSIFOL
 FOSTER GFT
 FREMONT

G
 GABON POWDER FLASK
 GARDNER
 GENERAL SUMMERALL
 GIANT KEY LIME
 GILLET'S CHERRY ORG
 GOU TOU

H
 HAMLIN
 HARVEY LEMON
 HERCULES CLUB
 HESPERETHUSA
 HIRADO BUNTAN PUM
 HOMOSASSA
 HONEY TAN
 HUDSON GRAPEFRUIT
 HYUGANATSU
 
I
 ICHANG PAPEDA
 ICHANG LEMON
 INDIAN WOOD APPLE
 ISLE OF PINES GFT
 
J
 JACKSON GFT
 
K
 KAO PHUANG
 KEY LIME
 KIMBROUGH SATSUMA
 KING MANDARIN
 KINNOW MANDARIN
 
L
 LAKELAND LIMEQUAT
 LARGE PINK PUMMELO
 LEE
 LEMONQUAT
 LIANG PING YAU
 LIME PRICKLY ASH
 LISBON LEMON
 LONG FRUIT KUMQUAT
 LUE GIM GONG
 
M
 MAGNUM BONUM
 MALTAISE BLONDE
 MALTAISE OVALE
 MANDARIN
 MARSH
 MARUMI KUMQUAT
 MAURITIUS PAPEDA
 MED SWEET ORANGE
 MEIWA KUMQUAT
 MELANESIAN PAPEDA
 MELOGOLD
 MEYER LEMON
 MICROCITRUS PAPUANA
 MIDKNIGHT VALENCIA
 MIDSWEET
 MINNEOLA TANGELO
 MONREAL CLEM
 MORO BLOOD ORANGE
 MURCOTT

N
 NAGAMI KUMQUAT
 NAKON PUMMELO
 NASNARAN
 NATSUMIKAN
 NAUGLE LEMON
 NAVEL GRAPEFRUIT
 NAVEL
 NAVEL,BAHIANINHA
 NAVEL,CARA CARA
 NAVEL,CHOATE
 NAVEL,DREAM
 NAVEL,GLEN
 NAVEL,LANE LATE
 NAVEL,LATE
 NAVEL,MAYACA
 NAVEL,SUMMERFIELD
 NAVEL,VARN
 NAVEL,WASHINGTON
 NINE POUNDER
 NIPPON ORANGEQUAT
 NOVA
 
O
 ORLANDO TANGELO
 OROBLANCO
 ORTANIQUE
 OSCEOLA
 OVAL PINK PUMMELO
 OWARI SATSUMA
 
P
 P TRIFOLIATA
 PAGE
 PAMBURUS
 PANDAN WANGI PUMMELO
 PARSON BROWN
 PARSON SPECIAL MAN
 PARTIN DELICIOUS
 PERA SWEET/O
 PERSIAN LIME
 PINEAPPLE
 PINK VARIEGATED LEMON
 PONDEROSA LEMON
 PONKAN
 PROCIMEQUAT
 PUMMELO
 
Q
 QUEEN
 
R
 RANGPUR LIME
 RARATONGA ORANGE
 RAY RUBY
 RED ROUGH LEMON
 RED SHADDOCK
 RED JAVA PUMMELO
 RIO RED
 ROBINSON
 ROBLE
 ROHDE RED VALENCIA
 ROUGH LEMON
 ROYAL GRAPEFRUIT
 RUBY RED
 RUBY NUC SWT/O(35)
 RUSK CITRANGE
 
S
 SALUSTIANA
 SAMPSON TANGELO
 SANGUINE GROSS RONDE
 SANGUINELLI SWT B/O
 SAUVAGE S/O
 SEA AMYRIS
 SEMINOLE TANGELO
 SEVERINIA BUXIFOLIA
 SEXTON TANGELO
 SHA TEN YAU
 SIAMESE PUMMELO
 SIAMESE SWT PUMMELO
 SICILIAN SOUR ORANGE
 SINTON CITRANGEQUAT
 SOUR ORANGE
 STAR RUBY GRAPEFRUIT
 SUN CHU SHA
 SUNBURST
 SUNKI
 SUNQUAT
 SUNSHINE TANGELO
 SUNSTAR
 SWINGLEA GLUTINOSA
 
T
 TABOG(BOYAG)
 TEMPLE
 THOMPSON GRAPEFRUIT
 THORNLESS KEY LIME
 TODO DEL ANO
 TORREGROSSA SWEET/O
 TRIFOLIATE LIMEBERRY
 TRIUMPH GRAPEFRUIT
 
U
 UMATILLA TANGOR
 
V
 VALENCIA
 VARIEGATED SOUR ORG
 VERNIA
 VOLKAMER LEMON
 
W
 W MURCOTT
 WAMPEE
 WHITE SAPOTE
 WILLOWLEAF S/O
 WILLOWLEAF MANDARIN
 
Y
 YUZU
 
Z
 ZHU LUAN


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Re: pummelo and mandarin varieties consult
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2016, 06:14:25 PM »
Emperor mandarin and hickson are the big guns missing from the list as they arebthe 2 most tropical fruiting and colouring well even in Darwin and Cape York at 11 latitude.Ellendale is a tangor but throws to mandarin much more say than honey murcott tangor.Empress may be emperor but I doubt it.All pomelo will be ok in your climate so you may as well get a top seedless variety of reds and whites.Grapefruit should be ok as well so long as they are in an open sunny spot with well drained soils.
Citrus in the wet tropics are prone to fungal diseases so need to be managed well and diseased bits trimmed off quickly. Fertilised trees, that get breeze,have well drained soil,have an opoen structure even through pruning do better.If your rainfall is around 2000mm/yr it is easy to manage.In the 4000mm/yr zone here at 17 latitude people seem to grow just limes,pomelos emperor mandarin,sometimes valencias,cumquats and sometimes hickson and Ellendale mandarins.

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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2016, 08:07:25 PM »
thanks that's great info! turns out i can't get budwood unless i'm a licensed citrus dealer, so i'm out of luck  :(. Still interested in people's favorite selections just in case i ever get a chance...

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Re: pummelo and mandarin varieties consult
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2016, 04:38:23 PM »
Sometimes it is worth looking at nurseries plant descriptions for information.
http://www.daleysfruit.com.au/citrusintro.htm and just hit which citrus you are interested in.



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Re: pummelo and mandarin varieties consult
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2016, 03:57:58 PM »
i can't get budwood unless i'm a licensed citrus dealer, so i'm out of luck

As someone dying in hope to get some scionwood from CCPP, i was really curious on how you were able to get some from US.  ;D
Turns out it isn't possible.

Would love to help you on varieties selection, but i guess our climkates are too much different.
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I want to buy/trade central asia apricots. Contact me in PM if interested.

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2016, 04:21:53 PM »
Thanks anyway. :) Yes, if only I could bring it from CA, they sell to individuals. But I'm stuck with FL, so... I'm stuck.

 

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