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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sooty mold
« on: November 11, 2021, 02:59:47 AM »
Great idea Brian! I have had limited sooty mold from time to time. I cut off these branches. I never had to cut off anything larger diameter than one inch. They all grew back with no mold.

How about that bacterial spotting that makes leaves die? On mango trees? This is my larger problem. One mango tree shed lots of leaves last month due to this. They all grew back green, the tree now looks nice and green. But having to grow back these leaves takes energy which is better spent making fruits next year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Your favorite South Florida Nursery
« on: October 12, 2021, 07:27:29 PM »
Chris at Truly Tropical in Delray Beach and Alex at Tropical Acres in West Palm.  I also second the recommendation for Julian at Lara Farms. All 1st class nurseries.

My neighbor in the same suburban development --  I never asked him where he got this idea about getting a Dwarf Hawaiian mango tree. But last March he asked me where he could buy Dwarf Hawaiian. By some cosmic synchronicity he was talking to someone who knew. I sent him to Chris at Truly Tropical where he got his Hawaiian and a Carrie too. So now he has these two plus a much older tree that seems like Keitt. It is late season for sure.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Email Function Restored!
« on: October 12, 2021, 07:19:59 PM »
Good news and thanks! Can you get the forum background color turned back to green? The way it was? I find it more friendly than the gray we now have and thanks!

The green was a template and it is not compatible with the current version but we are looking into other compatible template options.

I preferred the green as well.

Your deadline is next SE Florida mango season. The day that Alex-Squam has his first ripe mangoes for the hordes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Email Function Restored!
« on: October 11, 2021, 10:41:48 PM »
Good news and thanks! Can you get the forum background color turned back to green? The way it was? I find it more friendly than the gray we now have and thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can a fresh mulch pile self ignite?
« on: October 11, 2021, 10:36:13 PM »
That steam is good. It shows that things are cooking and breaking down into eventually humus and compost.
Do not breath in that steam! It can be full of mold as in toxic mold.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Holy Sh*t! How NOT to Trim a Mango Tree
« on: October 11, 2021, 10:30:45 PM »
This tree is very well branched out. The only problem for us mango cognoscenti is that all the fruits will be up on high. So wait for them to fall or find a way to pick them. In contrast, all my trees are kept low for easy fruit picking. My goal is to never have to use a ladder (dangerous) to trim/prune the tree. I am sure many/most here do the same.

For picking fruit from this tree I would take a simple extension ladder and rope it in very very securely to the trunk. I did this rope-a-dope once to trim a Kent mango tree. Then using a mango picking pole I would pick the mangos. Get out an old foam mattress and drop your picked mangos onto it. Or haul an old sofa outside and drop the mangoes onto it. (joke) Hmmmm.. I would never get up on a folding ladder to pick mangoes.

If the lawn is very lushly grassy and well kept the mangoes that fall off naturally will not get that bruised. Mangoes that fall can be firm and suffer minimally. Not all mango drops are soft by any means.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango seed viability days weeks or months?
« on: September 21, 2021, 08:42:10 PM »
As far as your friend Rocky Raccoon and his buddies go...... Go to HD and buy some house brand wasp and hornet spray for two bucks. This is not really a spray. It shoots out a stream of liquid. Give Rocky a good dose in the nose, eyes and face. Repeat in two hours. He will never come back again.

Though to be on the safe side, I would also drive him a few miles away to turn him loose by the side of the road. Give him another shot of hornet spray, while he is still dazed shake him out of the cage, hit him in the head with a 2x4, kick him in the rear with your boot. No need to drive him the ten miles away, that they talk about. This is ridiculous and too much work.

Wishful thinking but first you have to trap  Rocky which may not be trivia. Yeah, I like to kick its butt too. I once trapped a tough Rocky and he walked the whole cage with him around the yard all night. He chewed the tuna aluminum can just like chewing gum. I didn't have wasp spray to try, and too afraid to be near Rocky so I opened the trap door and ran away, letting Rocky walked out to a new far place.

Harbor Fright trap $25 ---  https://www.harborfreight.com/32-in-x-15-in-x-10-in-medium-animal-trap-63008.html  -- is huge and might scare your neighbors. Got two Rocky raccoons that did not walk it around. Heavy construction. Only problem was the trap was set on top of lawn grass, which Rockys tore up to a fare thee well as they tried to dig downward to escape. So putting some plywood underneath next year.
No wasp spray? Douse/Squirt Rocky's face, nose, eyes with some hot pepper/Cayenne simmered in water. And of course be sure to give him a good boot in the ass on the way out..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango seed viability days weeks or months?
« on: September 21, 2021, 12:01:22 AM »
As far as your friend Rocky Raccoon and his buddies go...... Go to HD and buy some house brand wasp and hornet spray for two bucks. This is not really a spray. It shoots out a stream of liquid. Give Rocky a good dose in the nose, eyes and face. Repeat in two hours. He will never come back again.

Though to be on the safe side, I would also drive him a few miles away to turn him loose by the side of the road. Give him another shot of hornet spray, while he is still dazed shake him out of the cage, hit him in the head with a 2x4, kick him in the rear with your boot. No need to drive him the ten miles away, that they talk about. This is ridiculous and too much work.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Lemon Zest budwood and Orange Sherbet
« on: September 20, 2021, 04:47:58 PM »
I trimmed my LZ today. It has been overcast today plus I have a tarp over them. Lots of cuttings that I can send out tomorrow. I should have enough to fill two of these boxes. Email me directly at zzendo7 ... AT .....gmail DOT com

I know they will not be prepped. I charge $20 to fill a priority mail box with the scions that I put in a plastic bag with some wetted newspaper. You pay for the medium sized priority mail box which is about $17. You do the math. I think the US Post Office is now back to normal for priority mail, going by other stuff I have recently sent. Florida probably late for grafting but California, Arizona is not. So I think.

I also have an Orange Sherbet tree that I have not tip pruned all season. I can take scions off it tomorrow to send you a box that is half OS and half LZ.

For the real fanaticos that want to convert a tree to Keitt... This tree was trimmed today. The cuttings are on the ground and can be sent out tomorrow. Same price as up above.
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Top two show Keitt tree and the trimmings


Tarp over the LZ trimmings



LZ trimmings


Orange sherbet tree

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Anyone have sugar apples and similar fruits to sell? My friend Krishna is interested in buying.

He and wife live in Plantation  (Southern Broward County). Phone or message him at ‪(203) 654-1699.  He also bought mangoes from me this season.

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Last 3 Keitts went to a customer today. Mango Season is done.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting fig for SoCal?
« on: September 02, 2021, 11:56:37 AM »
My vote goes to black mission fig. I ate a lot of them in Oroville, where the tree was located, a few years ago, there was a tree on the property. The tree was very productive.

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Sep 15, 2013 ∑ Black Mission Fig Tree Care and Information. The Black Mission Fig tree produces heavily from a young age. Plant the fig tree in the full sun. Trees can grow over 30 feet tall, but prune to keep as small as 10 feet tall and wide. Plant trees 10-15 feet apart in soil that drains well. How To Water, Fertilize, and Prune A Fig Tree. Water the fig tree deep but not too frequent.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I am topping my 5 Orange Essence trees
« on: September 02, 2021, 12:58:28 AM »
Look at it this way. King Henry VIII had his headsman decapitate her. This was his queen Anne Boleyn. This did King Henry no good. It haunted him afterwards.They say her ghost haunts The Tower of London where she met her fate

This inspired a well known English music hall song, and last year a TV series
With Her Head Tucked Underneath Her Arm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQErY55m8vo

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Anne Boleynís ghost has been seen on numerous occasions at the Tower of London.  It is said her ghost haunts the place of her death, beheaded within the Tower of London on the 19thMay 1536.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Lemon Zest fruits sun burned easy
« on: September 02, 2021, 12:35:53 AM »
@sapote
How about get some banana pups from forum members and have the stalks grow high enough to shield your LZ fruits. Bananas like cheap 10-10-10 fertilizer to grow faster and water frequently. Plant 5 banana pups 9 inches apart, and you will have a banana mat established quickly. A banana mat really gets them going and growing (competing, apical dominance?) and throwing off pups quicker. Plant one banana and it takes 2-3 years

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Banana mat>
The root system of banana plants begins as a single rhizome that puts out suckers, which form new plants to replace the dying main plant after it fruits. The rhizome, suckers and their fibrous roots form a mass of roots known as the mat.

Or plant a fast growing tree where its shade will protect LZ fruits. Tree is better because you can prune it to suit the shielding action that you want

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf video by Zill high performance
« on: September 01, 2021, 12:02:35 PM »
Lame. Put it on YouTube. I have no stinkin' Facebook log-on, so cannot see it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Lemon Zest fruits sun burned easy
« on: September 01, 2021, 07:30:04 AM »
I saw that Wong farms in Thermal, CA use mesh bags over their fruits specifically to prevent sun burns. Seems like a good solution for the situation

That's near where I live. We have a trucking company. We hauled about about 400k lbs of Keitt mangos a couple of weeks ago. Supposedly it all came out of a 46 acre field in Westmorland or Calipatria. It was all packed in Thermal, CA though.

I saw pickup trucks coming into where they were packing the mangos and hauling away thousands of pounds of blemished but huge mangos.... for their cows and goats lol. I don't know why they just didn't sell them to a juice company.

This is ridiculous. Fruits with some blemishes are easily sold off at flea markets. Get these mangoes out there on Saturday and Sunday, they will be scooped up. I suppose one barrier is these mango seconds need refrigeration, that might not be available at a low enough price. Citrus is more durable, this is what I have seen (and eaten) at Florida flea markets. This ugly citrus was prime! Such as tangerines and grapefruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango: please donít laugh at my Okrung
« on: August 31, 2021, 05:22:42 PM »
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Lemon Zest fruits sun burned easy
« on: August 31, 2021, 10:14:27 AM »
Some  thoughts:
Paint one half the LZ fruit w white latex paint. The half of the fruit that gets the most sun.

#2 Drape fruit with aluminum foil

#3 Buy some disposable foam dinner plates. They are flimsy, so double or triple up on them. To use as a sombrero over the fruit. Here in Tamarac, Florida Walmart is having a sale on them. In there last week I noticed they were 150 or 250 of them for $4

These same plates should keep animals off them. Put a hole in the center. Uses scissors to slit to the center. Fit this over your LZ fruit. Then Use masking tape to seal up the slit

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Your night photo shows a scared, shivering baby raccoon in your trap.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I am topping my 5 Orange Essence trees
« on: August 30, 2021, 12:20:37 PM »
This is rather abrupt.  Others with fewer trees do not have the luxury of issuing edicts of, off with their heads. I would at least keep one or two OE as they are.

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+1 on the raccoons going for your ducks. We raise ducks and have stopped raising smaller breeds. They are more hesitant, in our experience, to go after bigger ducks like say a silver appleyard.
We lost three Indian runners to raccoons.

Indian runners are such interesting looking, good looking ducks. I would be out for blood. We have loads of Muscovy ducks wandering around, same as many other places in South Florida. A few years ago I saw 5 good looking white ducks by a nearby house. I never saw them again. Coons and whatever must have done them in quickly, guessing they were pet ducks that someone let out. So had no idea how to defend themselves.

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...or better yet

Procure a giant turkey. Remove its innards, and crawl up into it like Luke Skywalker (or just put it on your head). Rub the innards generously all over your body. Wait for the raccoon assault, and be ready.

Ever see the claws on raccoons? Ever see those claws bared, with the raccoon hissing and snarling? For sure they like animal flesh more than fruit. Though pound for pound, weasels, otters and others in their family are the nastiest, toughest, most fighting critters around. I read about an animal control officer who had trapped one that was a nuisance. Put the trap/cage in the back of his pickup truck. When he got to his destination, he found that the animal had gotten through the cage wires and had escaped.

I would like to see a larger raccoon and smaller weasel put into a secure cage, battling it out to see who wins.

Mink are in the weasel family. This video shows one in a chicken coop at night doing in 10 chickens. The chicken feathers are flying.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWeXEGwXa8g

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Harbor Freight carries only one size animal trap and it is huge. Just $25. Raccoons will prefer meat over fruit, so bait it with some funky old meat from your freezer. Even better if you can buy a live chicken. Butcher it and toss the innards in the trap. Innards give off more of a smell to lure the raccoon in. Eat the chicken and toss the bones and scraps in there.

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@Jack, Nipomo ... Thanks for that. I know you have been around a while, so have seen all the tricks of the animal marauders that look at our fruit orchards as all-you-can-eat buffets.  You might have a large, medium, small number of fruit tree plantings. They want to eat them.
And if the fruits are not near ripe, no big deal. They will eat what is available. Same as we eat green, unripe bananas and plantains, after cooking them.

@Bovine
First off your mango tree cannot be close to other trees... Where they can jump from tree B branches onto the branches of tree A that you want to protect.
If mango tree is in the clear, how about this. See if you can get some razor wire. Coil this at the base of your mango tree. You will not need much of it. Here is what my search shows. That you can get a smaller amount for $40 or so.>> https://www.bing.com/search?q=tractor+suppply+razor+wire&PC=U316&FORM=CHROMN  Your local Tractor Supply might have this too. Along with the Ivermectin in the next aisle over.

Obviously, and this has affected me. If your mango tree is not in the clear from branches of other trees. Then what you do at the trunk of the tree will not stop critters. Though, your raccoons just might be too heavy to jump from tree to tree via their branches. I know that squirrels do it. I have seen this. I am already making plans for next mango season to ward off squirrel attacks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to make Surinam Cherry taste better?
« on: August 26, 2021, 09:38:01 AM »
A friend has two Suriname cherry trees. One is red fruits, the other puts out the black variety. The ripe blacks are definitely better, that 95% of the fruits will be a very nice sweet with no off tastes. With ripe as possible reds, the percentage is 50-60%. You can pick lots more ripe reds and toss the ones with the offending taste to them. I have a red tree and next door neighbor a red hedge.

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