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garcinia identification
« on: December 28, 2015, 10:11:19 PM »


I put different seeds and i lost track which one is this one
 Does anybody recognice this gsrcinia. ?
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 10:16:25 PM »


I put different seeds and i lost track which one is this one
 Does anybody recognice this gsrcinia. ?
Thanks

Look like Lucs

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2015, 10:31:55 PM »
wonderfruit, that thing is a good-sized specimen
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 11:11:22 PM »
You should be right. 3 years agom i planted kokum and a yellow garcinia white flesh inside.  But it s my first time i hear Lucs. I checked images and it looked like that
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2015, 11:14:02 PM »
Thanks it was a 3 years mistery
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2015, 11:29:37 PM »
You should be right. 3 years agom i planted kokum and a yellow garcinia white flesh inside.  But it s my first time i hear Lucs. I checked images and it looked like that

 ???
where did you get the fruit?  Only a few select people have gotten to taste Luc's garcinia. 
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2015, 01:54:38 PM »
I can not guarantee it s Luc. First time i hear that name. A friend from miami brought me a bag with plenty yellow fruits with white flesh tasting good. But it was nothing special about it. So i m not sure if it is Lucs. Although the picture Lucs loooks as the one i got. I have a few of them if u are interested
 
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2015, 02:55:32 PM »
A lot of Garcinia leaves look alike , I'd say the Luc's , Mexican Garcina and lots of other names , looks very similar to Mangosteen .
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2015, 03:15:00 PM »
A lot of Garcinia leaves look alike , I'd say the Luc's , Mexican Garcina and lots of other names , looks very similar to Mangosteen .

yes, I agree, it's hard to say from the pic, I was just guessing...but does look like your Garcinia !
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2015, 06:39:54 PM »
I can not guarantee it s Luc. First time i hear that name. A friend from miami brought me a bag with plenty yellow fruits with white flesh tasting good. But it was nothing special about it. So i m not sure if it is Lucs. Although the picture Lucs loooks as the one i got. I have a few of them if u are interested
 

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2015, 07:04:22 PM »
check lucs sounds like humilis currently commercialized here in Australia as achacha. take a lookhttp://achacha.com.au/

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2015, 07:24:00 PM »
Here's a picture of the G. humilis - Achachairu next to the Mexican or Luc's Garcinia . Since you mentioned ' White pulp ' my guess is you got the Achachairu ( smallest in the pic ) But on the other side Achachairu leaves are long and narrow .


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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2015, 07:41:58 PM »
i also thought it interesting that in Australia it is illegal to reproduce g.humilis.. due to an agreement between the growers here and the boliviano government. I'm not too happy about that

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2015, 08:28:15 PM »
OK I have my own Id request here also. I'm new to garcinias but I have one I've been calling the lemon drop or intermedia. However wiki says the fruit from this one is small, an inch diameter. This one I have has yellow fflesh 1-3 large seeds(1 inch)and a tear drop shape. flesh is sweet sour, sweeter around the seeds and fruit is about 2 1/2 inch diameter. it's the one in the middle yellow on top of a mango kp


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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2015, 08:42:20 PM »
The photo looks like a Mexican alright with Madrona and bicuda being similar to that also.Josh humilis is not achacha which is undescribed.Your garcinia in the picture is Asian and unlike the Rheedia types.It is a G.dulcis or maybe a  small variety of G.xanthochymus.In the LorenzI book the G.cochinchinensis depicted is known as G.xanthochymus here and the one shown as G.xanthochymus is a variety of G.dulcis here but other forms of dulcis occur here as well.I am yet to check which is correct.

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2015, 08:57:29 PM »
OK I have my own Id request here also. I'm new to garcinias but I have one I've been calling the lemon drop or intermedia. However wiki says the fruit from this one is small, an inch diameter. This one I have has yellow fflesh 1-3 large seeds(1 inch)and a tear drop shape. flesh is sweet sour, sweeter around the seeds and fruit is about 2 1/2 inch diameter. it's the one in the middle yellow on top of a mango kp

 

I remember this tree you asked about it before...I said G. dulcis.

and MikeT disagreed, and thought it might be xanthochymus....but xanthochymus too acid for most to eat out of hand...so I doubt that is what you have

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2015, 09:08:57 PM »
Adam I think the LorenzI book is causing confusion and the description of it being sweeter is making me lean to G.dulcis.That long nipple is something I associate with xanthochymus.Anyway it will be one of the two unless this cochinchinensis thing is real.

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2015, 03:34:07 AM »
Thanks for all the info fellows. I chase both those leads. it can deffinately be eaten out of hand. the longer they are on the tree the better but it tasyes exactly what i would imagine a lemon drop mangosteen to taste like based on the name.it's quite a new taste for me.to be clear its a neighbors tree the person who planted it is no longer there and I can have all the fruit. I'm really enjoying it. Should be able to share some seeds if anyone is interested.
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2015, 04:43:07 AM »
i also thought it interesting that in Australia it is illegal to reproduce g.humilis.. due to an agreement between the growers here and the boliviano government. I'm not too happy about that

The Bolivian government has nothing to do with the fact you can't reproduce it. It was the Australian Achacha company that managed to convince the Australian government to patent the plant.
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2015, 05:10:34 AM »
Gardeners here are still laughing about the patent but the main protection is for local marketing of fruit called achacha.It sounds more like a Latin dance than a fruit.Obviously patenting a fruit that does not exist is non sensical.

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2015, 06:05:40 PM »
i dint understand about the achacha "does not exist" mike. what do you mean

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2015, 06:50:41 PM »
The name is a stage name and the Latin name G.humilis is given for this undescribed species. Look at past threads on this subject and the phantom name.

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2015, 07:13:51 PM »
i dint understand about the achacha "does not exist" mike. what do you mean

Marketing name, nothing else.

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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2015, 01:04:42 PM »
Going back to original post. After readimg your comments otherwise my mystery would be still unsolved, i  research and thiink what happened is the picture i post was garcinia hombriana and the yellow with white flesh was garcinia tinctoria. I m sending a picture now. Thanks for your time and help
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Re: garcinia identification
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2015, 01:08:32 PM »



Garcinia tinctoria
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