By the way, I am hooked onto T-budding now. I got success in approcot, plums, and even cherimoya. if and when I get my first Maha Chanok scions, my plan is to do veneer graft, and the the part of scions where veneer was removed, I will use buds if any to to T-budding. Right now my mango tree is ready to receive as its buds are swelling and bark is easy to peal.