A non bitter larger Poncirus?

[hardyvermont]

https://www-tropusikert-hu.translate.goog/eml/poncirus.html?_x_tr_sl=id&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[Pandan]

Giant garden lemon (Poncirus trifoliata "Debreceni and Bácska giant")  shown in the photos
. Unlike the basic species, its fruit is not bitter and not the size of a ping-pong ball! Great frost-tolerant collector's selection, with large fruits (5 cm diameter!), without the bitter taste characteristic of the basic species! It is a very winter-hardy, high-yielding variety. A single plant is enough, no stamens are required. Container bush or sedge.

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I'm sure Hungary is HLB free if anyone knows how to import seeds XD

[Till]

I am going to check the source. Thank you for the tip. I am, however, a little bit skeptical that it is so different a cultivar from the standard Poncirus. I mean 5 cm fruit diameter is quite common for Poncirus in Germany. It is also not unusual that Poncirus has non-bitter fruits. A greater surprise would be when it had non-resinuous fruits. But the seller says nothing about resin or the absense of it. I also have some doubt that the flowers of this cultivar are really flagrant. I definitely know that Poncirus with flagrant flowers exist but these cultivars are so extemly rare that it amounts to a miracle when the seller really had a Poncirus that is a) extremly hardy, b) flagrant, and c) good tasting. A bit too good to be true I would say. And then this praise of attributes that are not unusual at all (5 cm fruit diameter, no bitter taste) - that sound just like sensationalism to me.

Yet I believe in surprises and I am curious. 

[Skandiberg]

He lives quite close to me. I want to visit him this fall. I will try to buy or ask for a few fruits to try. And I need PT seedlings anyway for my future breeding plans. His site lists a lot of other exciting stuff, too. If you guys want me to check any more particular plants of his above his PT, write your requests here. If he sells fruits, I think it's even
possible to send one by mail within Europe. But we'll see that around late September or October. His PT plants are quite pricey, though. They better be real good for those prices.

[mikkel]

I am interested. Also for other plants.

[Skandiberg]

Check his site with a translator. If you get stuck with anything, copy it here and I will translate it to English. Our language is among the trickiest ones.

[Wahl]

Does he have other cold hardy citrus and can we get anything here in the USA? Sound to good to be true.

[mikkel]

Watch out for Poncirus + or Swamp Lemon. both should be similiar.

[Skandiberg]

I have never seen them in person. But I want to take photos so if I don't recognize them, maybe you guys will. And if I can get fruits, I will do a taste test. I will try to have a fruit from my old college for test control.

[Skandiberg]

Does he have other cold hardy citrus and can we get anything here in the USA? Sound to good to be true.

His site shows mainly the usual Satsuma, yuzu, PT and Flying Dragon offerings as cold hardy, with the addition of unspecified plants like 'hardy clementine, hardy down to -12/18C when older'. And the same with kumquat and a few more. Besides that, he has nothing that you can't get where you live, except the non bitter PT. I have no idea if he ships to the USA but I plan to visit him this fall so I can ask.

I was on the hunt for PT rootstock so I called him today to ask if he has any that I could buy off him. He doesn't. But once we talked, I asked him about the non bitter PT fruits. He said he only had one of each of those PT trees so he doesn't give away or sell the fruits. Too bad. However when I visit him I will raise the topic again. Maybe I can persuade him to give/sell me one fruit for trial. I am curious about its taste. And of course, seeds wouldn't be wasted, either.