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RollingInTheWeeds:

--- Quote from: sc4001992 on July 08, 2021, 08:12:17 PM ---I don't care for the astringent (soft ripe) fruits so I only have multi-grafted non-astringent persimmons on my trees. I haven't found any variety that is not compatible yet. Here's what I have grafted on Giant Fuyu , Matsumoto, and Hayakume trees.

1   Chocolate
2   Coffee Cake
3   Fuyu
4   Great Wall
5   Hayakume
6   Izu
7   Jiro
8   Kurokuma
9   Maru
10   Matsumoto
11   Saijo
12   Suruga

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Just so you know, if your #8 (Kurokuma) is the scion that you got from me, there are a couple of issues here.

1.  It isn't a Kurokuma.  It's a seedling of Kurokuma.  I started it from a seed that I got from a Kurokuma fruit that I ate at a persimmon tasting at UCANR.  I know that the fruit I ate was a Kurokuma persimmon, but no one knows what the pollinator was.  I'm sure I made this clear before I sent it to you, but it might have skipped your mind; we had a nice exchange, and probably covered enough details that it would be easy to forget this little bit of info.  So the fruit you get from that scion might be like Kurokuma, but it might be totally different, since the gene pool got scrambled around in the midst of all that hot sex persimmons have.   ;)

2.  Also, if this seedling takes after its Kurokuma parent, it will be an astringent fruit.  I understand people liking the ease of eating non-astringent fruit.  You don't have to worry about whether the thing has been pollinated, or treated in some way to eliminate (hopefully!) the astringency.  But for the record, I'll say that I haven't ever tasted a non-astringent persimmon that has quite the complexity of rich flavors that Kurokumas I've tasted have had.  (And I tasted a wide variety of persimmons at the UCANR tastings in two different years.)

3.  I'm still waiting to get fruit from the Kurokuma seedling.  None yet.  I hope it will produce for the first time this year.  But one thing is clear already: I have a multigraft persimmon tree, and this is the 2nd year in a row that the Kurokuma seedling branch is the first branch to break bud.  In fact, I went out to see it today, and its buds are opening now.  Matsumoto Wase (the scion I got from you) and Tsurunoko ("Chocolate" from Dave Wilson Nursery) are still dormant.

I hope that helps.

sc4001992:
Yes, thanks for correcting me on the Kurokuma seedling graft. I don't think my graft will have any fruits this year, it is still not that large. Hope next year it grows more branches and fattens up.

Lovetoplant:

--- Quote from: sc4001992 on March 04, 2022, 06:10:46 PM ---Yes, thanks for correcting me on the Kurokuma seedling graft. I don't think my graft will have any fruits this year, it is still not that large. Hope next year it grows more branches and fattens up.

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Kaz any idea what variety is this persimmon?  It does not taste bitter when eating while it is hard.

sc4001992:
Lovetoplant, my base tree on the Hyakume was the Giant Fuyu. I remember it had large rounder shaped fruits (compared to Fuyu) like yours. It would get plenty of large fruits, but I didn't think it had a lot of taste to me, and the normal Fuyu seemed to taste better so I ended up top working all the branches, so I don't have any Giant Fuyu fruit to try.

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