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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When and where to tip a mango
« on: September 26, 2023, 10:10:25 PM »
Looks like you want a bush and not a tree.
Check out this link

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: HELP: Topworking 5-ft. Mango Seedling
« on: September 24, 2023, 08:36:59 PM »
If I were to topowork this I will cut either at the yellow or orange line and wait for it to send 3 or 4 new branches.  I will graft the two varieties I was interested in to the regrowth.

In this case I will cut just above the internode and hope for 4 or more shoots that I can reduce to 3 or 4 to graft in to.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Coffin Grafting Method ?
« on: September 22, 2023, 08:37:57 PM »
I know you are excited to see your raft take, but be patient and don't be messing with it. :)
Remember, there is almost nothing you can do to improve that graft now, but messing with it, there are a few things, perhaps many, you can do that will not be good for it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Air layering Mango Trees?
« on: September 22, 2023, 08:31:12 PM »
By the way, in my case the airlayer took some time to fruit even though it was taken from a tree that had fruited several seasons.
I don't know why other than perhaps it was busy making roots sufficient to feed a tree its size.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Air layering Mango Trees?
« on: September 22, 2023, 08:23:45 PM »
Yes, I believe members have airlayered mango and posted about it on the forum.

If you do keep your airlayer and plant it in the ground, plant a seed next to and and do an approach graft after it grows to add a second root system with e tap root.  You may end up like me though and just keep the second tree, in my case it was very vigorous and is not bigger than the airlayerd tree which by the way, is doing well.  I grafted the variety and airlayered unto the seedling, added a couple more too.  Both tree are inches appart from each other.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Forcing mango to branch out
« on: September 17, 2023, 10:00:03 AM »
Search on YouTube for how to tip mango by Dr Campbel.
It shows how to tip to grow a mango bush vs a tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good Florida atemoyas
« on: September 13, 2023, 07:50:07 PM »
Perhaps I will have a candidate for this post next year.

I have a seedling AP (I think it is AP) that is really good.  More on the purely sweet side with no tart.  Perhaps next season I will share some fruit around to get the opinion of others.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 13, 2023, 07:45:28 PM »
..... I love when I get to share fruit, even with a stranger.

Noting beats gifting some nice fruits, ok there are things that are more fun including the stranger coming back to say thank you and sharing how they enjoyed the fruit, ... and getting to leave with even more or different fruits.

I love it and it happen often enough.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Atemoya seedling seeds
« on: September 13, 2023, 07:08:48 PM »
Still have a few more seeds

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 12, 2023, 04:06:00 PM »
I quite honestly don't think anyone who loves and grows mangos will ever shoot a kid picking mango.  .... unless it is with a camera.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Raw Sugar mango??
« on: September 10, 2023, 09:00:35 PM »
That was my thought as well, but Raw Honey is not a Zill selection.  At least I didn't think it was.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Atemoya seedling seeds
« on: September 09, 2023, 08:27:08 PM »
I planted what I believe were AP (African Pride) seeds a few years ago.
One in particular was very different.  The leaves were a little different from the others and its growth was vigorous.  I kept it and fruited it.  The fruit looks like AP.  When I picked it and brought it indoors it cracked and softened in a few days.  I really liked the taste, preferred it to Birula which ripened at the same time.

I will be able to share scions next year.  I have some seeds this year and am happy to send some to anyone who wants a few (10 or 12).  You pay shipping, the seeds are free.
By the way I have a few seeds from the Birula ask if you want a few added to the order.  I will add till I run out.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Coffin Grafting Method ?
« on: September 07, 2023, 08:39:06 PM »
Here is the link to the original post

If you look carefully, you will observe that what you did is not what Sapote did.  What you did is what experienced grafters would assume he should have done, which is closer to a veneer graft.  What he actually did on the grave part was cut two parallel lines wider than the scion, cut the tops so he could peal the back off.  On wood that is pushing the back will slip right off.
The idea is that it would leave the cambium layer exposed over the entire contact area where the back was removed.  It was then simply getting the scion which was not cut vey deep to touch the cambium layer and you would get your graft.

My assessment of what you did is your scion (coffin) is cut too deep and your root stock (grave) too shallow.  So the coffin is sitting on the grave not lowered into it. It could be a wonderful veneer graft and take just fine but it was not what Sapote was suggesting.

If you have another scion it may be a good experiment to try his grave and coffin method as a comparison.  ... I hate that name.

The method is counter intuitive for many folks who have watched a lot of grafting videos but if you do bud grafting (where you peel the bark back, you will see exactly what he is doing.  For the rest of us, we keep trying to improve on his technique for example the post below was from someone who tried and was partially sucessful and found a way to make it better.

Is it either or, or could it be in between?
If that is the case, you may want to try trees n more.  He is on the forum and had a good variety with excellent pricing and customer service.

Mike @ TreesNMore 772-781-9570   Pick up only in Palm City

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Just wanted to show my new setup
« on: August 12, 2023, 08:14:07 PM »
You must truly love tropical fruit plants to do this, good luck and share how this works with the forum.

Do you graft, perhaps you can add a branch of Pickering to one of your mango.  It fruits a lot and doesn't get very large quickly.

By the way, might I ask why you picked the mango you picked?  What are your plans for the Cotton Candy when it gets bigger?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I expect fruit?
« on: August 12, 2023, 08:10:09 PM »
I can't recall where I heard this but the skin or bark pealing on the trunk was supposed to be a good sign.  Something about flowers coming from the new bark.

I had a red Jabo that started to fruit a year or two after I noticed the bark pealing.  That said, I have a much bigger tree of a different variety that is not flowering yet though the bark is pealing so perhaps it was just a coincidence but I will look and see if I find something.

Here is a post that mentions bark pealing.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you ID this mango?
« on: August 12, 2023, 07:56:44 PM »
Were you thinking of planting the seed or acquiring a plant of the variety?

In the event you are planning on planting the seed, please be aware that if it germinates and successfully attain fruiting age and size you will most likely get a fruit different from the one the seed came from.
I believe Kent is mono-embryonic and what comes from the seed will be a mix of the flower and pollen donors.  You may get something better or worse or perhaps even close but you wouldn't know.  If you must have a Kent you may want to graft a Kent scion to your seedling at some point.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Pruning Recommendation Needed
« on: August 10, 2023, 08:54:21 PM »
Depends on what you want.

For a bush, see this video.

He says hip level for a start. -

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Golden Annona - big disappointment
« on: August 04, 2023, 07:40:56 PM »
Look on the forum for Pond Apple, they smell wonderful but have no taste.  And that is being kind.

By the way not everything grafts well to pond apple.  There is a annona graft compatibility table floating around on the forum.  In my experience, Cherilata does well on pond apple.  Some say Ilama does to but not in my experience.

Here is the link

Like he said cut it.

....  you will be happy you did.

Thoughts on Pickering or Pina Colada?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO: Pond apple (fruit)
« on: August 02, 2023, 12:18:31 AM »
Sure, PM me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarfing a vigorous tree
« on: August 01, 2023, 09:27:02 PM »
I will like to see this tested.

If it works, there will be a nice biology paper and explanation, after the fact, on why it worked and why we should have reasonably expected it to.
If it doesn't, we will set it aside as a lesson learned / point of knowledge and move on to the next test.

Of the two options, the better one is to test and determine the answer, the poorer option is to avoid finding out because you have concluded that it would not work.

My suggestion for those not interested in trying, stay on the side and watch, perhaps we will all learn something.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tape Types for use grafting . . . .
« on: July 21, 2023, 12:14:20 AM »
This has come up for discussion a few times.  This link is to one that I responded to.

You may also search on presco Texas brand flagging tape (forum member shared this link to it  You will find some nice posts.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Advice for re-planting Carrie mango?
« on: July 14, 2023, 09:37:52 PM »
You can move your mango tree. 
This is what you are looking at.

There are other transplanting mango video instructions out there.

Here is another video with some informative tips

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