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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: It's my first time grafting
« on: September 02, 2024, 05:27:59 PM »
Technically, yes.  ... but you may not necessarily want that to happen.  Best if your graft got some size and heft first, so second or third year may ne preferred.
For grafts on a large and established tree, you may be able the get fruit earlier. 

 


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I know 0-0-50 only to be Sulfate of Potash or Potassium Sulfate.
It is good for mango.  While I try to get the granules, I have used the powder from time to time.
The difference is the speed of nutrient release.  Granular 0-0-50 has a more prolonged nutrient release, while the powder form is better for quick boosts in nutrient availability.


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The unfertilized embryos are supposed to be genetically identical to the mother tree. It would be the same result as a grafted scion. The problem is determining which seedlings are from fertilized embryos and which are not. There was a thread recently with a lot of discussion on how to differentiate. I can't find it right now. The short of it is that you need to grow out your seedling for a few years and compare several attributes of the seedling to the mother tree.

My solution recommendation, plant the seed, keep two of however many emerge in the same hole or a foot apart.  When they fruit for the first or second time, keep the bolt and chop off the other unless it also is a fantastic fruit in which case you have a good) problem.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: August 25, 2024, 07:00:20 PM »
A strange year here.  Few fruits but spread out.
I still have a couple of Carrie, 6 or so Choc Anon, 2 Beverly and 3 Juicy Lucy Gary's selection) hanging on trees.

The rodents and I are watching carefully to see who gets to them first.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bury grafted avocado
« on: August 25, 2024, 06:52:59 PM »
Plant it the way it is.
Stake it for now.
Plant a seed or two next to the stake (where the plant is growing upright)
When the seeds grow, chose the better of the two and approach graft it to your tree to give it a second root system that is straight in line with the upper part of your tree.


The stick sketch bellow should help visualize my suggestion.  The bold lines represent your tree today.  The thin lines represent the seedling approach grafted  (inarched) to your tree sometime in the future.
 
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please ID This Mango
« on: August 21, 2024, 08:11:51 PM »
Choc anon vibes.

That is not Choc anon.
I am very certain that it is not Choc anon.

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Not if you are buying the name, its not.

I intend to eat a lot more of it before deciding to acquire the tree.  The one I sampled was not fully ripe, was very good but not great.

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If you are interested, $0.50 per seed and $5 regular shipping or $10 expedited.

PM me quantity you want and address to ship to.


 

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I will end this soon.

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I did not intentionally stump mine.  I had to because it tipped over in the wind.

It grows fast and it did fruit the following years, including this year, but it was fruiting before it fell over the first time so I did not attribute the fruiting to the stumping.

Perhaps someone on the forum has tried this and can chime in.

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Had a Hog Plum tree knocked over by wind (again) and I am stumping it (again)
I have lots of cuttings for anyone who want some.  It is free but you have to come get it or pay $2 a stick plus shipping.  Each stick will be 10 to 13 inches long and depending on the thickness, you could get 10 in a priority mail medium box which ships for $18.40.
If you want fewer, I can make the sticks shorter (8 to 10 inches long approximately) and put a few in a small flat rate box, or flat rate envelope which is $10.4 

I understand thick cutting an inch or more across work best so I am making a few of those but if you tell me what you want (up to 2 or 3 inch thickness) I may be able to save you some.
 
US addresses only please - cant do international shipping with these.  No one will be happy.

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I can't tell you how to know now but can suggest how to end up with a clone in your yard.

If you just want one tree in the future and wish to be sure it is a clone, plant 2 of the 3 in the same hole or a few inches apart.  You know at least one possibly both are clones. When they fruit, keep the clone and chop down the other, unless it made a fantastic fruit, in which case you have a good problem.

If you don't want to nurse an unknown to fruiting, plant all 3 in the same hole and in a year or two, they should hopefully be large enough for you to determine with more confidence if one is different from the other two.  If you still cant tell the difference, take scions from two, graft to the one you wish to keep and you are sure at least 2 of the 3 varieties on the tree are clones.  You may end up with a poorly shaped tree if you have to lop off one of the scaffolding branches in the future after they fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: stuck between SL, ST, M4, and PP
« on: July 22, 2024, 09:45:39 PM »
Plant 1 graft a second on it.
That way you have a choice of more than one option.

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No I have not, perhaps I am due for a soil test.

I do apply gypsum (both drywall and granular) but not based on the result of a soil test.

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Mango from one particular tree in my yard have a problem with the fruit.  When cut open, there are inclusions in the flesh that are discolored and look bad.  They occur from near the skin to about midway to the seed.
There are no blemish on the skin suggesting an insect bite or some kind of rot.
I have no idea what this is.  My best guess is insect bite, possibly early in the fruits development or by an insect that can reach a centimeter or so deep into the fruit.  I looked it up online but found nothing that is a match though there were posts about seed or pulp weevils. They did not describe my scenario. It could also be nutritional since I find it only on this one tree.  Initially past years) I found this in only one variety on a multi-graft tree, now (this year and last) it has spread to other fruits on the tree.

Has anyone observed this and what could be the cause?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: lancetilla mango
« on: July 20, 2024, 05:52:26 PM »
Great for starting a conversation.  Few people have ever seen a mango that large and will often be happy to talk to you about it.

A friend gave me a fruit and perhaps it will redeem this variety for me, but my opinion of Lacentilla is, great novelty tree not a great mango (fruit) tree.   

The problem in my yard was I could never get the fruit, if it did not split, the squirrels will get them while I am waiting for them to mature.  Late enough to be the last fruits in my yard, they had a target on them and the only way to get one was to pick early and then let ripen in the house.  They never developed a good taste in my opinion.  I cut the tree to top work but eventually lost it.

I might update this comment if the one ripening now is better than I recall.

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Thanks, I rarely do bark grafts on big stuff.  When I do I try to bag or paint the top of the stump with some kind of wax or sealer.  I procrastinated on this one and it rained the day after I grafted it.  I did wrap it with several strips of buddy tape but in my experience, some prune sealer or something else would be needed to keep the moisture out.

I will seal and see what happens.

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I did several grafts this week.  Most were routine grafts to similar size rootstock and were well wrapped.
Two however were bark graft to a very thick stem (I had cut the tree down to about a foot and a half and must be almost two inches across in diameter).  While I wrapped the top and sides, I had intended to also bag the graft.  I did not and it rained.

Is there some way of expelling moisture from the graft?  Would bagging now be a bad choice if it locks in moisture in the graft?  Are there any hacks I should consider or should I just take it down and re-graft taking a few more inches off the stump?

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Ilama is the one I understand is difficult to germinate.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to pick Mangos..??
« on: June 22, 2024, 12:50:43 PM »
I’m not sure what variety I have . Someone else planted the tree a number of years ago.
They get yellow when ripe. Here’s a few pictures of what’s on the tree, and one I brought in that has ripened on my counter. 








From your first picture I thought Choc Anon.  They will color on the tree but can be picked when the skin pales or shows little yellow.  You can ripen them on I was going to say your lanai, but considering your experience perhaps)your kitchen counter or garage.
 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sweet tart mango seeds
« on: June 18, 2024, 08:22:14 PM »
Sweet tart came in early for some in Florida this year and if you want seeds you are more likely to score some from FL folks right now.

 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zill selling mangos this year?
« on: June 02, 2024, 05:51:31 PM »
Just go to Walter Zill for mangoes and he wont disappoint when it comes to picking mangoes correctly. Should be open now.
100% agree.  The buying experience is great and they pick with home consumption in mind.  If you have some time, Walter may regale you with he history of the variety and talk you into trying something he likes.  Alter the taste, you may leave with a few of the new finds in your purchase.

Can anyone say Amy, Veronica and Beatrice :)

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Sweet Tart
Fruit Cocktail
Cotton Candy
Peach Cobbler
Ugly Betty
Pickering
You might want to try Tropical acres farm.  They sell many varieties of mango. You do need to know that some varieties ripen at different times and you may need to select from what's available to ship  (https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/shop)  I don't think the are shipping fruits yet but keep an eye on the forum, someone will post about fruit purchases.

Frank FLNative ships great fruits.   This was his offer from last year.
 https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=51372.msg494119#msg494119

There are several others and one or two people kind enough to pick up local fruits and ship to you, of course you pay for the fruit and shipping.

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any pictures ?

I had posted the pictures with some discussion to a different thread.  Here https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=50492.msg523126#msg523126

The relevant images are copied below.

   





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