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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting woes in Thailand
« on: July 08, 2025, 07:19:23 PM »
In order to address the lack of tap root, I grew a seedling and approach grafted it on the airlayered mango.  In one case the tree has both root systems but in a couple of cases I decided to keep the seeding and the air layer is doing well without a tap root.  Not as vigorous but doing just fine by itself.

So air-layering mangoes are good for door-yard dwarf trees other wise too vigorous for the small space dwellers.
SoCal growers would not want these.
In my experience, the tree will eventually reach normal size but in at least two cases, I decided to keep the seedling because it grew more vigorously than the airlayered tree I had intended to approach graft it to. I instead grafted scion from the airlayer to the seedling and now I have two trees next to each other.

Here are two pictures taken recently.

In this first picture, the airlayer is the thicker tree that is leaning, and the grafted seedling is the one growing straight up and much thinner.



In this second picture, however, the airlayer is the tree that branched almost at the ground, and the seedling, which was grown much later, grew straight up to find light and developed a thick stalk and very healthy canopy.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting woes in Thailand
« on: July 08, 2025, 12:44:16 AM »
I haven't tried air layered on mango and heard anyone done this. I'm not sure how strong the root system growing in SoCal, but maybe not an issue in tropical climate.
Mango air layering works,  several posts on the subject on the forum.
In order to address the lack of tap root, I grew a seedling and approach grafted it on the airlayered mango.  In one case the tree has both root systems but in a couple of cases I decided to keep the seeding and the air layer is doing well without a tap root.  Not as vigorous but doing just fine by itself.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona that graft to pond apple
« on: July 05, 2025, 01:01:02 PM »
You were right about Cherilata—it’s thriving beautifully on Pond Apple rootstock. I’ve also had solid success grafting Soursop onto Pond Apple. The Soursop has survived several years and even fruited, which I’m pretty thrilled about. Other annonas have taken, but unfortunately tend to fail after a year or so, especially during the second dry season/winter.

Years ago, I ran an experiment using Cherimoya on Pond Apple as an interstock to support other annonas. It had some success, but it was a real exercise in patience. I’ve since moved on from that approach, though I still have Dr. Whites and Cumbe varieties growing on one of the test trees. The others were removed, and the space has been repurposed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Poly mango seed question
« on: July 04, 2025, 08:22:41 AM »
I suggest you research this a little longer before cutting anything.
In your situation you have either 3 clones, or two clones with one hybrid, potential new variety, formed by the combination of the contributing parents genetics.

My understanding is that only one of the seedlings is a hybrid, resulting from cross-pollination, while the others are nucellar embryos, same as the mother tree.

People have suggested smelling the leaves, the different one is the hybrid.

My suggestion to you, graft scions fron the two you intend to cop off to the one you plan to keep.  You will be certain to to have two branches of clones on your tree.  When the grafts are established,  lop off the non keepers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Fest 2025!!!
« on: June 30, 2025, 04:39:10 PM »
Interest how what I loved most about the event is what others wish they could change.  I saw and met many mango enthusiasts and was able to talk to total strangers about mangoes and growing them.
I did not do the tasting,  I  host mine with friends and in an environment where it is casual and untrusted. 

I liked the crowds, loved the opportunity to chat to folks just starting their mango journey,  and especially hopefully getting some people hooked on grafting.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Fest 2025!!!
« on: June 29, 2025, 06:58:38 PM »
It was a great event, kudos to the organizer's, the volunteers and the vendors and sponsors who were there to give us a memorable mango fest.
Great talks and demonstrations too.

Looking forward to next year's event 😀

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Fest 2025!!!
« on: June 29, 2025, 06:53:37 PM »
I worked the tasting room, too, cutting up fruit.  I managed NOT to cut my finger.  (Someone in the other room did cut himself.)  The quality of the fruit that I handled was not so great overall.  There were some exceptions.  I practiced great restraint and didn't taste anything until the very last mango, which fortunately was Lemon Zest, the GOAT.  The Mango Mania at Xain's World (6/21/25) was a much better event for tasting mangos.

My estimation is that there were at least three times as many people at PBCCC this year as there were at Mounts Garden last year.

John, I'd like a head count, I  think more like 10 times, okay maybe 8 or 9 times but lots more than 3 times.

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Hope it sprouts and grows for you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you help ID this mango
« on: June 21, 2025, 11:48:01 AM »
Likely Kesar.

I have a Kesar in the yard and will do a comparison.  It is possible, but I am not so sure I would have wanted a second Kesar tree.  Thanks for the suggestion.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you help ID this mango
« on: June 21, 2025, 11:43:52 AM »
Taralay is a possibility.  I had a couple of trees, gave one away to a friend, and then a year or so later, the other died.  Got a scion from my friend and grafted it to my nurse tree to have the variety, with the intent of grafting it to a new seedling later.  I must have done that graft.

I will compare the leaves to see if they look and smell the same.

Got one possibility, please do keep the suggestions coming.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you help ID this mango
« on: June 19, 2025, 07:33:29 AM »
Any suggestions?  Would pictures of the ripened fruit or cut fruit help?

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Unless you must graft next year, plant what you have now and let them grow, graft them when they are ready even if that is almost two years from now.

The day after you graft them, you will be glad you weren’t waiting to make a decision.

If you are on a clock and must graft next year, see if you can trade or batter for some rootstock.  There are some people on the forum who are generous and who may chose to share if you can come get the seedlings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can you help ID this mango
« on: June 16, 2025, 05:59:54 PM »
I have a mango fruit for the first time in my yard from a branch with the label long lost.  The fruit has a prominent “ beak” which I hope will help identify the variety.  Any suggestions?  I might be able to pair the name with varieties I grafted at the time.

Thanks.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Whip and Tongue
« on: June 14, 2025, 11:19:41 PM »
I tried this, as well as the Z graft (https://youtu.be/7msNCYZ19Ug), some years ago and liked both, but did well enough with cleft, side cleft, and veneer that I stopped using both.  I didn't think my success rate changed but that was not based on any real record-taking.  Perhaps I should start again, ... sometime.

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Want a few scions of real OS to graft on your mystery tree? In a few years you will have your OS plus an extra variety.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red flag
« on: June 10, 2025, 05:10:36 PM »
Any reason why you haven't provided identifying information in case someone already has experience with this seller and can either assure you if their authenticity or otherwise? 

I would start there.  Have any of you done business with XYZ seller and see what comes back.

For me, if my guys telling me this is a scam, I will avoid it or only use funds I am okay losing.

Hope this helps.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kathy K-3 Is it that good?
« on: June 09, 2025, 10:42:57 PM »
Mine stay green after they are mature, but would eventually color on the tree if left alone, but I often would not.  They get these little glittering, clear secretions (I have heard them described as resin sparkles) when mature.  They are like water droplets, but they are solid, and a sign that the fruits are ready to pick and will ripen on the counter.


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Fruit from a grafted limb.  The scion sourced years ago from Raul




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar apple root stock for atemoya.
« on: June 05, 2025, 10:49:22 PM »
Take your pollen the night before, and save it dry.  Hand pollinate early the next morning on flowers that are just opening or about to open.

A search on storing pollen on the forum will give you ideas.  Here is one older link https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=24016.msg284349#msg284349

One more thing, I believe pollen from other sugar apple plants or atemoyas may be okay for cross-pollinating your flowers.

You may also toss a few old fruits under your tree to attract pollinators and let them do the work for you.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My "Dwarf" Pickering Ain't So Dwarfy
« on: June 04, 2025, 08:07:36 AM »
Do you need to feed it any Nitrogen?  It is a mature tree as it is.  Perhaps stay with the 0-0-50 and Epsom salts + micros.

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I had drafted a response to your initial post, then saw your later post where the seller told you it was an air-layered plant.  I will share my thoughts on both.

First, based on the pictures, it could be air-layered or from cutting.  The thick section below ground with several roots growing laterally from an inch or two above the bottom looks like an air-layered or started from a cutting to me.  The deadwood below the root will break down, leaving just the root ball.

You mentioned you found a seed husk, which strongly suggests seed-grown but does not confirm it.  I have several pots with failed seeds in them, in which I have planted other things. 

Were it not for the follow-up statement from the vendor, I would have noted that you are not asking the correct question.  One can graft to a plant propagated from seed, cutting, or air-layer.  It can start in any of those ways and still be a grafted tree.   The key will be finding the graft union, which is not in the pictures you shared and which I understand you did not find when you looked.  It is super easy to find some graft unions (approach, cleft, veneer etc.), but may be hard to tell from a bud graft.  There is a slight turn just about an inch above the soil level (where the perlite ends) that looks worthy of investigation. I may be looking too hard, but it looks like the bark above that point appears different from the bark below it.  That initial thought may be moot, though, if the seller says it was not a grafted tree. 

What did the seller advertise?  Any chance you can get a replacement?  That is a lot to pay for a tree that may not be what you thought you were paying for.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango pruning help
« on: May 31, 2025, 07:53:02 PM »
It will sprout, most likely from where you currently have the green tie between both lines.

That said, is there any reason why you don't want to leave it at the current height?   A meter or a little more to the first branch is not too tall.

Of course, you may wish to grow a bush or have some height restriction reason, but I would leave it be and let it sprout from the node that is about 5 cm below your current topping cut.

I don't want to leave it at its current only for ease of harvest once mature, no real height restriction's where its located. the tree is deceptively tall, its around 2m (7ft)

That is certainly taller than it looked, 3 to 4 feet is my preferred for the first cut.  Some people go shorter, but I wouldn't do that.

I am beginning to think that perhaps a foot more, making the first cut between 4 feet to 5, is better.  Some trees I started at 3 feet have now grown, and I wish I had let them start taller.  The lowest branches drag on the ground when they are loaded with fruit.  I spent an hour or so this morning propping up branches so the critters at least have to climb to get to the fruit :)  Not a bad problem to have though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee Season 2025
« on: May 31, 2025, 07:45:34 PM »
This is what you need, but I don't know if they make them long enough for the height of your tree.
It cuts and holds the bunch.  Saw and used it at a local Lychee orchard. Very neat.

I don't have one of these (don't have enough Lychees to need one), just the mango type with the small wire cage.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango pruning help
« on: May 31, 2025, 07:20:18 PM »
It will sprout, most likely from where you currently have the green tie between both lines.

That said, is there any reason why you don't want to leave it at the current height?   A meter or a little more to the first branch is not too tall.

Of course, you may wish to grow a bush or have some height restriction reason, but I would leave it be and let it sprout from the node that is about 5 cm below your current topping cut.

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I have had very difficult time trying to germinate these seeds, bought from different sellers over the past few years.  Any tips you can share?  How sweet is the fruit?  Thanks!
As soon as you clean the seeds (wash and clean them), place them in a Ziplock bag with vermiculite with a small amount of moisture and place in a warm (not hot) spot away from direct sunlight.  They will germinate.

I found out with this batch.  I no longer have any seeds this time, but the folks who requested seeds will get some that are germinating already.

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