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Picked my last 2 Juliette's today. Man they were so good, first time fruiting planted it 7-2018
May be a couple NDM hiding. Still got some Orange Sherbert and Kathy. Oh ya forgot my Keitt.
Star fruits are looking good, still needs some time.
Have a 10yr old Jaboticaba and have never seen a fruit yet.

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Sadly most of my Keitts have MBBS bad. Could fill 3 five gal buckets full of bad fruit. The good ones that are still hanging and started to blush a little red even though they are hard as a rock I pulled and let ripened, took about 5 to 7 days. Not to bad but I can still tell they need to hang longer, not as sweet as a good late ripened Keitt had some pretty good ones in the past.
The problem I have though is I have to complete with the blue jays and squirrels. If I let them hang on they will sure get them before me. Little bas#&#$@ always seem to get the ones I can't see right away and are perfect to pick.
Thinking about chopping it down and replacing it with another variety. I would top work it but the previous owners planted this tree years ago 1ft from the property line, they were brothers. Since then by new neighbors put a 6ft vinyl fence up and its right up against the trunk.
Sucks because I really like the lateness of this tree. Not to many if any varieties that are as late as a Keitt, maybe Neelam.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Canít be a Duncan, right?
« on: July 22, 2021, 11:52:32 PM »
Could be Juliette. Is the skin thick?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Questions about ground cover
« on: November 09, 2020, 10:46:41 PM »
Funny they actually recommend perennial peanut here in South Florida for a non invasive ground cover. I see it planted in areas close to the beach and in local parks. I might try to find it,  looks to be a hardy good looking ground cover. I have the native to Florida mimosa strigillosa planted on my property growing and competing with other native weeds and grass around my mango trees. I try to keep it and the weeds from growing close to the trunks by at least a few feet. My soil here is very sandy and dry because I'm a couple of miles from the coast. It looks like in the pics you have more of of clay type of soil. Not sure how good perennial peanut grows in clay but its worth a try if you don't want barren ground.

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I had a later Duncan from Truly Tropical and it was delicious. Not to bitter close to the skin like some are.
Sweet pleasant Indochinese flavor. I was trying it along side with a K3 Kathy and I was actually liking the Duncan a little more for my taste buds but the Kathy was still good.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Palms to the north (south Florida)
« on: August 29, 2020, 06:55:36 PM »
As the OS and avocado get taller they will get more sun, don't think it will be a huge problem. Don't wanna start a war with the neighbor. They are already planted.
I'm always impressed with how much my Keitt produces despite my neighbors huge Live Oak that towers over the east side of my yard and shades the Keitt the whole morning until 10:30 and competes again for the west sun from a tall Gumbo Limbo. The Keitt is tall though and still gets some sun.

Bruce

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best tasting mangos?
« on: August 29, 2020, 06:40:54 PM »
As Satya said, everyone's taste buds are different. I do like the Indochinese mangos but a perfectly ripended Mallika blew my socks off to a oh so different ice cream. They are all so different. Even a classic Keitt off my own tree maybe medium in size that I caught perfect, I was thinking, darn this this is so good how come the new varieties get all the attention.

In a video with Walter Zill he was asked about his favorite mango and he said, the one I'm eating right now sums it up.

Bruce

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wholesale nursery mango tree
« on: August 29, 2020, 12:02:18 PM »
I guess that's why so many of us graft our own from seedling trees and buying scions when available.
It's just hit or miss on how its going to grow from other seedlings other than turpentine rootstock that's been proven to grow here in FL.  And if your scion takes, I've lost so many, far from a pro at this. I guess its more of a hobby.

Bruce

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indochinese mangoes
« on: August 29, 2020, 12:22:43 AM »
Was poking around on Tropical acres site and came across a Saigon mango which could be the original one that was sent to David Fairchild in 1902.  Seems interesting especially if it really is a true dwarf. I can probably fit it in my yard if it is, running out of room Cac maybe to big.

Has anyone tried this mango? Is it good or worth planting and does it taste similar to maybe a Fairchild?

Thanks

Bruce

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart vs Cecilove Mango
« on: July 09, 2020, 06:31:10 PM »
I wouldnít be scared to try Cecilove. Sounds really good on paper.

Bruce

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best late season mango
« on: July 09, 2020, 06:29:52 PM »
I think M4 and cotton candy are supposed to be late. Never tried them but people that have said they are good.
Canít beat the old Keitt when it comes to late but it just stinks that it has MBBS or rot issues. Mine included.

Bruce

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indochinese mangoes
« on: July 09, 2020, 06:03:28 PM »
Modified, thanks for the advice guys.

skhan I tasted a P-22 last year and it was really good. Was told it was out now but Iíve never seen it anywhere. Maybe itís a special order tree.

Never had buttercream. Is it supposed to be a ZINC sibling? I do have a ZINC tree.

Bruce

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Saigon mangoes.
« on: July 08, 2020, 09:38:41 PM »
Funny, I was sharing a Florigon mango with a friend and he said around the stem it taste like parsnips. Canít remember the last time I ate parsnips but I guess Iíll have to get some.

Maha Chanok is good. Like I said, itís so hard to choose a variety if you only have a couple spots left. To many good ones out there now.
But I also think disease resistance is important. Iíll take a little hit on flavor if a variety has very good disease resistance.

Bruce

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Indochinese mangoes
« on: July 07, 2020, 10:51:41 PM »
I am a fan of the Saigon type indochinese mangoes.  I have ZINC, Sweet tart and K3 Kathy.
Have tasted Fairchild and itís a nice tasting little mango picked and ripened properly.
 Question is how much different as far as taste goes are Cambodiana (ZINCís) possible parent, Dupuis Saigon, or CAC. Never tried any of them, seems like they are hard to find. I can plant maybe 2 more trees in my yard and itís so hard to choose. Kinda wanted another Indochinese maybe Saigon type.

I also like to experiment with seedings. I planted a P-22 seedling (A ZINC Gary hybrid) because I noticed the leaves when ripped have the same sweet smelling hard to explain aroma as my Sweet Tart, ZINC and Kathy tree. Different than all the other varieties I have. Funny the Florigon seedings I potted up have this same aroma also except for 2 out of the 8 seedings I planted. Makes sense I guess Florigon being a Saigon seedling. Just think this is fascinating in a corny way. THANKS for listening!

Bruce

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Thanks bsbullie for the reply. Going to start another thread about Saigon mangoes donít want to hijack this thread.

Bruce

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How's the production of Fairchild, itís a good tasting little mango.

Bruce

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart vs Cecilove Mango
« on: July 07, 2020, 06:33:25 PM »
P-22 I was told is out now. Supposedly itís a ZINC Gary hybrid. Had one last year and it was pretty good.
Had the Indochinese aroma and taste different than ST maybe closer to ZINC.
If you like ZINC you will probably like P-22. I had ZINC for  the first time last year, never really paid to much attention to it before and really liked it, enough to find me a tree.

Bruce

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Honest Abe, yes I grafted a ZINC scion to a small shoot as an experiment and it took.
I do know Themangoplace in Delray Chris has top worked quite a few older varieties Keitt Haden etc that has MBBS with success. She has some good videos on YouTube. As bsbullie said, the infected fruits will infect good fruits and I read somewhere even healthy trees nearby.
I try to remove any fruits when I see black crevices starting so it doesnít infect other fruits or my nearby Glen tree. I think thatís Harís strategy especially for the LZ, removing bad fruit early before it infects others.
 You can always cut the Keitt back to the main trunk or 2 to 3 trunks. Wait for the small shoots to come up and graft on to them.  Cotton Candy, Honey KISS whatever variety you like. That big trunk and established root system have a lot of energy in them that once a scion takes you will get fruit fairly fast.
I might graft more on my Keitt if I keep losing more fruit.

Bruce

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I have a well established Keitt and it has MBBS. It seems to be getting worse every year now started about 3 or 4 years ago. Itís a real shame I love the tree if people wouldnít steal the fruit or birds pecking at the stragglers hanging I can have mangoes going into October, usually have a handful in September before I just pull the rest down before the blue jays and squirrels get them.
Whatís amazing about this tree is productivity. For a scraggly tree it produces like crazy every year. Even after the theft, wildlife, storms, MBBS I stillhave plenty to eat, give to friends and freeze for smoothies later. They do freeze very well better than my Cogshall.
Not to mention itís a good pickling mango. Had Trinidadian friends that liked to make mango achar from them.
But the MBBS is not going away so I got a Honey KISS for another late tree. Found it at Nuturf. Think it might be a Zill tree because it has the typical yellow tag maybe Iím wrong. Also just planted an M4 from Excalibur for another late tree. Thought about Cotton Candy but never tried it.
Did an experiment and grafted my Keitt on to a Neelam rootstock, thinking maybe it will be a dwarfish Keitt or the MBBS wonít be as bad, not sure. The tree has been in the ground for about 6 months now and looks pretty healthy so far.
Also grafted a ZINC scion to a little shoot, didnít think it would take but it did.
 Really wanted a Venus as I like the ZINC trees for a later variety but other people are experiencing MBBS with these trees so Iím reading.
 For now Iíll just put up with the Keitts issues, if it gets really bad might just top work it.

Bruce

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: July 05, 2020, 11:17:30 PM »
Hello,

Iíve been reading interesting topics on this forum for a little while and decided to join in. You can learn so much from other peopleís experiences on growing edibles.
I mainly have an interest in mango trees but also have carambola, soursop, kefir lime, moringa, and herbs for cooking. I also have an interest in Florida Native trees and have a lot of different species growing in my yard.

Bruce

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