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I have to say, I like Har's Oddities list more than the Supremely Delicious list. Granted, I haven't tried all on both lists, but Pim Seng Mun and Coconut Cream are two of my top five (I've yet to try a great example of M-4, which could knock Coconut Cream off my list if it lives up to the hype). Has anyone ventured a "romantic" name for M-4? I also really like Madame Francis and Ice Cream and Baptiste.

The name is up to Zills but I have read some people calling M4 as mounds.

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Dwarf Hawaiian is a true dwarf tree as Har has pointed out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Graham, Julie or Ryan?
« on: June 07, 2020, 11:04:42 PM »
I love Julie too but like Johnb51 stayed, Julie may not be the best producer and it wonít grow as fast as the other trees you listed which may or may not be an issue for you.

Perhaps try J12, Juliette, Carrie if you can get s hold of them. Graham has a bit of that Julie taste and is more productive. Try ordering a box from Tropical Acres, if he still has them. Maybe you can request specific varieties?

Simon

Thanks Simon, will research on the J12 and Juliette, Super Julie is nice too and I have tasted.  The issue is that the tree is very vigorous.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Graham, Julie or Ryan?
« on: June 07, 2020, 10:52:46 PM »
Everything I've ever read about Julie has said that it does not produce reliably in SoFlo.

Hey John, I heard that it needs another mango tree nearby to help pollinate.
Maybe that is the reason some people say it is not very productive?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Graham, Julie or Ryan mango tree?
« on: June 07, 2020, 04:21:47 PM »
Hello guys and gals, what would be best a Graham, Julie or Ryan mango tree for South Florida?

Which one tastes better and has better productivity?  Or any other mango that has a similar taste?
I only tasted Julie and loved! It is like a dessert type mango.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Buttercream being a good rootstock
« on: June 05, 2020, 05:26:14 PM »
How did that mango taste?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Juiciest Mango
« on: June 02, 2020, 06:04:33 PM »
Paige mango is very juicy

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Juiciest Mango
« on: June 02, 2020, 06:03:42 PM »
Kathy is nice and so is Venus

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit thieves rant
« on: June 02, 2020, 06:01:22 PM »
I'd be tempted to saboutage some.  Inject capsaicin oil into say 5-10% of fruits, the most appealing / accessible ones.  Keep careful track of which ones you did it with so you don't eat them yourself.

Thieves should learn the lesson pretty quickly.  ;)

Honestly, saboutaged bait is a pretty good tactic.  I once had thieves steal a toolbox and two full cans of gasoline (back before I went electric).  So I left out several additional gas cans, which were all promptly stolen as well.  And to be fair, they did contain gasoline.... on the top.  Anyone who smelled it or poured off a little would see gasoline, no question.  But it was only half the liquid in the cans, flowing atop a denser layer of... concentrated hydrochloric acid.  Which eats steel  ;)

The only downside is you never get to see the thieves faces when they realize how badly they screwed up.

Good one mate!

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Production wise CC comes third. Taste wise, in my personal experience, BC comes third, this is based on my tasting of BC from Zhpp this year and M-4 last year, CC did not produce for me at all this year. Tree growth pattern wise i donít know how BC is,i donít have the tree growing but M-4 seems compact and symmetrical so far vs CC that tends to shoot itís long branches vertically downwards. Both M-4 and CC seem to be equally resistant to anthracnose probably M-4 has a slight edge as I did spray copper on CC once and M-4 never.  So i would go with M-4 as well.

Thank you for the reply!  M4 seems to be the way to go then.  Do you know anything on sugar loaf mango tree?

I had tasted sugar loaf from Zhpp in 2019. It stays green and good after a long time after picking, this one in the picture was bought a week ago and stayed in my garage for a week, it is slightly paler green, giving now to touch and ready to eat. It gets to bigger size than this but not as big as fruit punch, i would say a medium size mango.  Last year they had rich sweet flavor that reminded me of the mangoes i ate in India, certainly has a high brix, did not find much acidity. I have yet to try them this year, may be tomorrow i will try this one.
Tree as you can see is growing compactly, i am a lazy pruner and i want to get this tree to grow big so havenít done much since planting it as a single stick just grafted 3g from Zhpp last summer. It did not flower for me this year. I have not had to spray any copper, looks healthy with neglect :)


Nice specimen you got there, your trees look really healthy!

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Is M4 an alternate bearer?

Not that I know of.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold hearty tropicals
« on: May 21, 2020, 02:05:38 PM »
You should add some peaches, and maybe also Keitt or Kent mango.

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Pickering or Julie is your best bet!

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Production wise CC comes third. Taste wise, in my personal experience, BC comes third, this is based on my tasting of BC from Zhpp this year and M-4 last year, CC did not produce for me at all this year. Tree growth pattern wise i donít know how BC is,i donít have the tree growing but M-4 seems compact and symmetrical so far vs CC that tends to shoot itís long branches vertically downwards. Both M-4 and CC seem to be equally resistant to anthracnose probably M-4 has a slight edge as I did spray copper on CC once and M-4 never.  So i would go with M-4 as well.

Thank you for the reply!  M4 seems to be the way to go then.  Do you know anything on sugar loaf mango tree?

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Hello mango experts!  :D

Which of these trees (CC - BC - M4) have the best fruit production and secondly growth habit for South Florida?
These varieties have been out for sometime now, do we have a definite answer on them?
 
Thanks a bunch!

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PM sent to you.
Where are you located?

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Go with pickering mango

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Great for you Abe. Keep it up man. As another poster said and i was noticing you seem to have a lot of open spaces to plant some more trees other than guava. Do you like mango or avocados?
You have a great climate man.

Plant a Dwarf Hawaiian ( early mango) , a Guava mango , Maha Chanok  ( mid season)   and a maybe later mangoes like a Beverly , Keitt, Honey Kiss or Neelam

As for avocados i know you guys in Florida have a lot to choose from.
When you have a chance next mango season go to Zill High performance plants ( Gary Zill), Go to Walter Zill's place , Tropical Acres Farms ( Alex's place) , Truly Tropical ( Chris' place) and buy and sample fruits / ask questions on varieties / production/ season and growth habits of certain trees ..accumulate info and make your decision..but taste lots of fruits before you plant whatever you like.

You are so lucky..you have the right climate to grow many , many tropical fruits. Btw congratulations on your new home and your lovely Guava tree.

Is guava mango productive a tree in Florida?

Mike

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguana Wars
« on: August 08, 2019, 02:15:11 PM »
https://www.browardpalmbeach.com/restaurants/six-ways-to-cook-iguana-6392248
That was a good joke to tell americans to eat the iguanas because ,,they taste like chicken,,.
I dont think its possible when even most of the wildest american rednecks dont eat the boar after they shoot him because it not a castrated pig and about the bones ,they are to sissy to eat carps .
Even here where people eat a lot of carps and all the hunted ( hunted not just shot) wild boars,i think not even the homeless would dare to eat an iguana. ;D

Say wut!
Iguanas are tasty, way better that chicken filled with hormones and junk from the supermarket!

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I might be wary of coconut cream and productivity. Some people have issues with disease and no fruit (me). I may end up topworking the tree. i am in a very humid environment though. Planted right by a lake.

Cool, is the coconut tree planted on a small hill away from the water? Or at water level?

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Had a cotton candy and it was sugarlicious!
Maybe I should add M4, Cotton candy and  Jumbo Kesar to the list, making it a Top 10?

                       List based on taste, productivity and growth habit.

Coconut cream
Sugar loaf
Sweet tart
Pickering
Carrie
Kathy
Keitt

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which Mangos Are Left (Florida)?
« on: August 04, 2019, 12:47:54 AM »
Still hanging 7/28
Valencia Pride (many)
PiŮa Colada (many)
Maha Chanok
Cotton Candy
Lemon Zest (2 left)
Dot (1 left)
Coconut Cream (many)
Harvest Moon (1 left)
Mangifera odorata

So is cotton candy and coconut cream good producers?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Any Info on Cotton Candy Mango?
« on: August 02, 2019, 05:29:16 PM »
My cotton candy is an upright grower so far with less vigor than the Sweet Tart and just ahead of the Pickering   Not as precocious as either of these two either

How did your cotton candy tree fair out in fruit production this year? 

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For posterity, hereís the full 2019 list.


M-10
M-17
Yi Xuan
Phoenix
Orange Essence
Brite Bite
Ceci love
Taymour
Diamond
Haden
Brandon seedling
Florigon
Cushman
Tebow
Duncan
Valcarrie
Pickering
Maha
Coconut cream
Sunrise
Dupuis
Juicy Peach
Dot
PP
Baileyís
Fruit Punch
Dwarf Hawaiian
Fukuda
Cat Saigon
Kathy / Kryptonite/ K-3
Peach cobbler
Ugly Betty
Sweet Tart
BD 20-1
Sunburst
Sien ta one
Sunburst
Bolt
Ceci love
Jakarta
Angie
Sophie Fry
Lemon zest
Fairchild
Kryder
P-22
Buttercream
Bolt
Apricot
Cyrus
Vallenato
Ceici Love
Beatrice
Gaylour
Montego
Mabrouka
Arka neelkiran
ST Maui
Baptiste
White Pirie
Lucille
Sverona Rheka
White Lady
Webber
Van Dyke
White Alphonso
Winters
Tong By Ka
Tong Dam 9897
Tuehau
Excalibur
Ameeri
Dudu
Eulobio
D-10
Bombay
Graham
Julie
Super Julie
Super Alphonso
Florigon
Choc Anon
Guava
Hindi Bessanara
Gary
Sturrock
Edgar
Simmonds
Mallika
Zill Indochinese
Nam Doc Mai
Ewais
Valencia Pride
Ryan
Cotton Candy
Seacrest
East Indian
Taralay
Philippine / Carabao
Pineapple Pleasure
Cac
Langra Benarsi

Is this list in a particular order?
Valencia pride is an alternate bearer, so really a good productive tree.  Any other of your top tier mangoes that alternates?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FL mango ID please
« on: August 02, 2019, 02:59:19 PM »
You have your shiny Keitts and and your dull colored Keitts/ The shiny ones are picked under ripe but can still sweeten up on your table or in your garage   My opinion. All my Keitts are  dull but super delicious in a old Florida  way.. I had 100 or more fruits hanging last year (last 30 were bought by a Bangladeshi man) but this year none due to alternate bearing.\.

 I practice this myself as I have 4lbs  NW Washington State cherries sitting at room temperature and getting sweeter every hour.

Which would you prefer kent or keitt?

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