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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« on: September 16, 2024, 09:02:44 PM »
Oh did you see the video from when we found longiacuminata? We also found the red Plinia rara and Plinia callosa. 

Here it is https://youtu.be/Zn0jjrRN8NQ?si=KsXSOjd2L5XnCMT5

Here is a picture of the new leaves. Beautiful species.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia longiacuminata
« on: September 10, 2024, 11:18:31 PM »
Because these are at least 2 year old saplings and not seeds. I don't sell seeds anymore and soon once I am sold out will not sell seedling anymore. I know what I want to grow now so not traveling as much and back to teaching and just collecting. As for this species, these were germinated seeds we found under the mother tree and I imported them from my Bahia trip two years ago. I had an extra one to sell but I'll probably just keep it now. Don't really need the money and would rather have an extra ultra rare already grown tree.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Nono variegated Banana Plant
« on: August 31, 2024, 09:48:29 PM »
I have a large Nono I grew out from tissue culture. Its currently putting out pups and I have one removed already and rooted. Here are the pictures. 45 for the rooted one. The pup is bigger and I might pull that one out soon. I am in Los Angeles near LAX
Joe






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gkw All my annonas are listed here : https://hapajoesnursery.com/collections/annona-half-gallon-saplings-6-mo-to-2-year-old

I am doing a back to school sale. You can use code: BacktoSchool

Almost all of the Eugenia, Myrciaria, and Annona can handle brief 30's.

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Glad the "asteca" go there ok. I try and package things like I would want them. This is a great "variety" that my friend,  youtuber from Brazil Sandro, He grew out this one out and said is his favorite. I am growing a couple so if something happens let me know and I can hook you up with some scions in the future. Thanks for helping out a humble teacher and explorer.

@BenMango.... Challenge accepted!

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This is such a cool fruit that more people should be growing. It did fine for me outdoors this year in Socal 9B although this winter was more like 10A. They start small and take off. You only need one tree but the fruit can be a bit variable. I am growing a bunch of different ones as I really like the ornamental look of the leaves and tree. I have some seedlings for sell and just got a new batch of seeds to germinate from Brazil and is suppose to be a tasty form.

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Hello fellow fruit addicts. As a teacher, I finally have time to organize and clean and have some extra cool and interesting species to auction. I'll have a couple more auctions until school starts. Many of the Auctions are last offerings :) I still have some other speices available non auction style at www.hapajoesnursery.com where I should be adding Durio macrantha, Durio kinabuensis! and some other annona and duguetia soon.

Annona neoinsignis, "araticum cortiça," rare Annona from Brazil.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335489765172

Annona spinescens "Bahia", beautiful 1 year old rare annona from Itacare, Brazil

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335489685497

Annona hypoglauca "Annonilla" Seedling. beautiful silver underside.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335489667945

Annona reticulata "Asteca" -- raspberry cheesecake and creamy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335489787722

Extremely difficult to grow Durian... are you up for the challenge?
ULTRA Rare "Pelangi" Durian: Rainbow Durio zibethinus Seedling

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335489672562

Durio dulcis, an extremely rare Ultra Tropical durian seedling.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/335489753471


Plinia sp. Peluda de Alagoas "Grimal", one year old sapling
https://www.ebay.com/itm/335489662903



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona spinescens seedling
« on: July 11, 2024, 09:48:36 PM »
Well I contribute again to conversation and help with Lance's sale. I know the tree and the person he got the seeds from. It's legit and a tasty selection. I can verify. Its a good price and I sell mine much more.

I love hearing about stuff growing up. I can only speak about what I have seen and share information. Rarepalmseeds at one time was the only source of these seeds but they are importers. The amount of seeds for sale on that site are mind numbing and the information is incorrect. He is not an expert on Annona and Ive definielty gotten some questionable seeds that any annona lover would know are wrong.
When I sell seedlings, the only advice I can give it to try and match the environment from where they come. I agree with Kevin, It's an experiment and a lottery ticket... well not Powerball but at least a scratch off. I spent alot of time and money eliminating the duds.
I have not tested any drought tolerance, so I can speak on that, but it does grow and fruit in colder environments in Brazil. If Helton can grow it then we have a good chance in 9B. 

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona spinescens seedling
« on: July 10, 2024, 07:52:05 PM »
From my experience, Annona spinescens germinate relatively fast. Usually less than 2 months. Spinescens is definitely NOT drought tolerant. It comes from the Brazilian Atlantic Rainforest. It has a sweet pumpkin-like filling with lots and lots of seeds. It does have some cold tolerance as they have survived the winters in Socal 9b easily at my house and I know of a bigger one in East LA 9b. Annona Salzmannii not so much in cold tolerance and I've killed a few. THere is a fruiting one in Fort Meyer, so it is possible.

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Im not really sure where they are located, but I havent been able to source a reliable Durian tree in the US, so I had to go do it myself. I have access to both of those cultivars and plan on grafting after the durian season ends. The way these trees are going I might even try grafting this year.

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Durian are seed grown and getting really tall. They are growing really fast in my Tropical Mix. Almost 2 feet tall in less than a month.  8) 8) I might have some grafted ones next year depending on the number of successes I have grafting this fall. If you are looking for grafted, I only know of one place in US and they go for around 300 each with shipping. hardtofindtrees.com.


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Yay, summertime. A teacher's favorite time of the year. I finally have time to up pot and organize and I have a few things to offer. Some easy-to-grow Jabos all the way to extremely hard-to-grow Durian. Here is a quick list of some of the new things.

www.HapaJoesnursery.com

Durian drop: I got a couple to make it through the winter and they look pretty good. I am in search of those species that might have some cold hardy properties and testing more this winter. These seeds were imported overnight and then a 3 day process to get better germination rates better than last time... I have a few extras to offer this year. The soil is my tropical mix inoculated to improve sprouting success.

These are ULTRA tropical and will take a greenhouse at a minimum unless you are in Hawaii or Puerto Rico
Durian: Sijampang: Reported to take temperatures down into 50's upper 40's, along with kinabulensis and Macrantha (I Have some extras avaiable soon) are "suppose" to be Cold Hardy. I am testing this winter but if you want to experiment/....
Musang King, Black Thorn "ochee", Durio Dulcis, Musang Queen, Old Ginger, Butter King, Pelangi (rainbow) are available





Some rare annonas,
Dioica (Top 3 wild annona Heltons favorite), Salzmannii (Top wild tasting annona), Neoinignis, Reticulata "Azteca"
Easy to grow Eugenias,
Eugenia dichroma (Helton says taste like fanta soda), subterminalis, Azeda, Beaurepairiana (MUST HAVE)
Jabos: Large Grimals, Acu Paulista, Red, Peludo do Mucuria, Grandifolia, Pingo De Mel, Nana (Dwarf and fast to fruit)
Pouteria: Torta, Butryrocapra, tricularis, Sp Abiu Carambola (E-Jardim says is a must have)


More things coming soon













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I am back teaching science in the classroom and have been focusing my time on growing instead of seed hunting. I have a bunch of healthy extra seedlings to offer. Use code "HFD" for 15% for fathers day. Sale ends on Monday.

www.hapajoesnursery.com

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Well I try to mimic the growing medium where they are found thriving.  High silica sand composition, well draining soil and neutral pH.  I don’t know if it’s “correct” but In my experience peat moss will lower the ph too much and lock out certain essential nutrients.  They love water.  I’ve seen them growing in standing water in the Pantanal to flooded area of the Amazon. 

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I am fully addicted to growing all things Duguetia. It’s has been quite the learning curve and I killed more than I can to share.  But it is possible.  There are 3 that are known to take a frost or slight freeze from where they are found in Brazil/uruguay. Lanceolata, salicifolia, and Furfuracea.  I cold tested a bunch this winter, Spixiana, Confusa, and phaeoclados did fine through a mild SoCal winter.  Stenantha lost all its leaves but didn’t die but also still hasn’t recovered.  I have around 30 or so difference types at difference stages. The tropical Duguetia are defineitly cold sensitive but we might have a chance.  I kept most of my tropical Duguetia Iniside this winter.  I might get brave and try a few next winter. They are so alow growing though that they can probably stay inside for a long time.  Just have to use the right soil medium.  If you are ever in the area by LaX let
Me know and I can show you y different setups.

Also. I just visited Helton Josue farm south of São Paulo and got some more ideas of Duguetia that will survive the cold.  His farm has a very similar to ours in the winter, so if Helton can grow it then we have a chance.  Especially the one he has put into the ground. 

I should have a bunch of seedlings to offer in the summer. I use to sell them much smaller but I haven’t been hearing a lot of success so I am planning on growing them out to a larger size before offering them. Although people who visit me end up talking me out of them haha.


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Also from my source. Durian macrantha is also known as Dok and has a creamy consistency and tastes like biscuits. 

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Espalier is a good suggestion and I’ve picked up and couple tips that might actually help.  I am also able to source macrantha and kinabulensis. However kinabulensis has to go through an embryo test to ensure viability and it’s very susceptible to high temperatures from what I am told.  PM if you are interested or if there is a variety you are looking for.  I have really high germination in this last trial batch and will sell some soon. 

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Ben Mango. Me too. Not a picture but a grafted tree at about 6 foot tall. It wasn’t the prettiest tree but it had an almost ripe durian on it.  My goal is not to grow durian commercially and certainly not going to try and grow and fruit it outdoors.  It is to grow durian in my greenhouse and see if I can fruit it.  Keep it pruned to feed my family, learn more a d then go from there.  I’m a biology and engineering teacher so I know it’s possible.  It’s just a matter of cost and engineering.  I am just experimenting to see if I can do it on a public school teachers budget. 

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I have tried and given up twice in the past but something keeps drawing me back in. Just when I think it’s impossible I get an idea and re think the setup.  It’s also a pain in the ass to import these seeds as they are extremely susuptable  to mold and rotting. I have seen with my own eyes a five foot grafted tree with one durian fruit that tree ripened.  Goal 1 was to find species that can tolerate at least 60f. I’ve had plenty of success growing them through the summer even in our cool SoCal coastal weather.  Even a cheap pop up greenhouse was a game changer the first summer.

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I am working on a project to look for any cold tolerant durian. There is anecdotal information about wild species that are cold tolerant.  I have a professor friend that says there is a variety of durian called Sijampang that grows on the mountain in Indonesian and has started cold testing and is showing promise. I have seedlings of 15 types right now and going to cold test some and greenhouse grow the rest. I had a few survive in my greenhouse over this passed winter where I set the minimum temp at 60.  They survived and my wife is ok the with heating bill so I stepped my game up and imported a bunch of seeds and they are geriminating as we speak.

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I have saplings almost a year old from my Bahia exploration last year. A very good tasting spinescens growing in the Restinga near Salvador, Brazil.

https://hapajoesnursery.com/collections/annona-half-gallon-saplings-6-mo-to-2-year-old

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Brazil, Helton, torrent page again
« on: February 28, 2024, 09:45:00 AM »
No. Helton does not send seeds from Brazil.  He also does not respond to requests for international shipping. Helton has a genetic muscular condition and it is very difficult for him to respond to amount of emails he gets.  I have visited his farm a couple times and is an amazing person, but even simple tasks take a long time.  I am taking my wife to visit him next month and spend some time on his farm. Hope this helps.

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From my experience, nitida is highly recalcitrant.  Fresh seeds I cleaned with my normal disinfectant procedure and then stored on a heat mat set to 85.  I germinate in real sphagnum peat moss and inspect seeds weekly.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: any kadsura coccinea successfully planted ?
« on: February 18, 2024, 12:13:27 PM »
I cut a few of the seeds from Jabo45 and they were all viable with a white kernel.  Good luck with germination! They look better than the ones I bought on Etsy and those are starting to germinate.   I also am rooting a few cuttings to see if it’s possible.  Hopefully we can start growing these and selecting best cultivars soon.  Thanks Ryan!

I’ve weirdly have more success with growing them in pots than in the ground.  They like morning sun and shade the rest of the day and seem to grow when it’s cold and stunt in hot weather. 








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From Helton Josue website.
I trust him
https://www.colecionandofrutas.com.br/eugeniaburkartiana.htm

Helton has a Beautiful orchard and has written many books on fruit collecting and is one of the most respected fruit collectors in the world.  I'll be back there in a couple months visiting him for my annual meeting with him and my other Brazilian collector friends. but I can understand the frustration with scientific naming.

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