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I’d be cautious about g. hombriana grafts. I used to graft mangosteen commercially and I stopped because I don’t like the way they grow. Many garcinias don’t want to grow upright when grafted. I have also grafted seedlings and top worked g. prainiana. Same thing. They need to be staked, pulled with ropes, it’s a mess. I took the very tip of a g. parvifolia and top worked it onto a male g. Lateriflora. It worked even though the sap color was different between these two species!  For top working males I guess I would still do it but otherwise I would just grow out the seedlings. You’re going to get a much nicer tree.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you air layer cocoa?
« on: December 13, 2024, 07:34:04 AM »
Yes, cacao can be easily air layered. It makes sense to graft or air layer superior material. As Caroline says cross pollination can be important.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee in hot equatorial climate
« on: December 06, 2024, 07:06:26 AM »
Yes, there’s a long list of fruit trees we grow that respond to a dry spell with a nice flush of flowering. Actually, if we get two dry spells then we often get two harvests during the same year.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chempadek seedling wilting and dying
« on: December 05, 2024, 01:12:40 PM »
It’s common that champedek has an issue when it has to transition from being supported by the seed to its own root system. I graft champedek onto jackfruit and that’s what I’ve seen in Malaysia as well. Still I have had some seedlings work out. You might try applying something that is very good at promoting rooting. But once the wilt starts I’m afraid you’re too late.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee in hot equatorial climate
« on: December 05, 2024, 09:51:26 AM »
It’s very rare that they fruit and not really worth it. I mentioned the temperature because you seemed to think it had to do with rainfall. In our climate it never gets as hot as in Florida either since days in the summer are much shorter than further north. The temperature might range from 75-86 or so.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee in hot equatorial climate
« on: December 03, 2024, 06:59:50 PM »
Florida gets a lot colder than the places we are talking about.  The lowest low here is about 73f. South Florida gets way colder.  Whitman was struggling with cold in North Beach to be able to grow equatorial zone fruits that grow well for all of us.  Why do you think you can’t grow durian in Florida?  It’s too cold.  Great for lychee and longan.
Peter

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I’m planning on going for at least two weeks in early February.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durian breeding
« on: November 30, 2024, 12:37:01 PM »
Supposedly you can speed up production slightly by grafting your seedling onto a producing tree.  I think that Mike T wrote something about that a while back.  Realistically I think it’s a multi-generational project, multiple human generations.
Saludos

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee in hot equatorial climate
« on: November 29, 2024, 07:51:40 AM »
Pulusan is more delicate than rambutan, grows slower and yields less. But it’s worth growing. I am surprised you’re having so much problem with it. We air layer pulusan and it grows fine. There’s other stuff that, for me, are slower and more difficult. My weather is something like what you have in Bahia I think. We are a cacao growing area as well.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee in hot equatorial climate
« on: November 28, 2024, 07:27:48 AM »
There are so many great equatorial fruits. Pulusan grows well for us as well as rambutan. Lychee is nice but I would concentrate on the many fruits that are easy to grow where you are. They are the envy of those who can’t grow them.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: outsourcing fruit selling?
« on: November 27, 2024, 08:22:22 PM »
Another point I’d like to make is that there are lots of fruit buyers who really enjoy buying the fruit from the actual farmer.  That is a nice contact that can be highly valued.  It’s great for the consumer and the positive feedback for the grower is rewarding.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: outsourcing fruit selling?
« on: November 27, 2024, 08:20:35 AM »
I sell at a farmers market every Saturday.  It’s actually about the only time anyone sees me and it works well for networking, arranging consultations and other activities.  Obviously I don’t have fresh fruit every week, even here!  But me and the other fruit growers sell jams, dried fruit, plants, etc. and are able to maintain a presence every week which is important both for our status with the market admin and maintaining customer interest in our stands.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee in hot equatorial climate
« on: November 27, 2024, 06:55:14 AM »
We have some lychee trees that occasionally produce. They’re seedlings from a tree planted long ago in this province at an area slightly higher elevation than our own. Low temps here don’t go below about 21. It’s really not worth it.
We grow a longan, Diamond river that does very well.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: November 24, 2024, 10:25:15 PM »
In a worst case scenario the tree could load up and split right down the middle. On our tree with the cargo belt it stretched that belt a bit and now it’s loose. We usually prune after the harvest.
The idea with cutting one side back part way is useful. If later, there is a split it will be just the smaller one. You’d cut one side off about half to three quarters of the way up and leave the other to dominate.
But with the flowering I’d wait to check the set.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: November 24, 2024, 07:11:40 AM »
I have some questions. Is this a seedling, has it ever been topped with the goal of strengthening the branches?
We have a situation like this that resulted from topping a durian and then failing to properly shape the tree after. The tree is a D-99 that is very productive. This last season we attached a cargo belt to prevent the two trunks from splitting apart due to the heavy fruit load.
In a developing tree with two equal trunks if you cut one back somewhere up above the joint then the uncut one will start to dominate which is more favorable than two equal size leaders.
I know I haven’t directly answered your question but have tried to provide some info to help you assess the tree.
Saludos Ben

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The Tenom agricultural park, Sabah, Malaysia.
Paul Zinks place in Naranjo, Costa Rica is nice but we certainly have more selection at Finca la Isla, Puerto Viejo, Talamanca.
Lancetilla, Honduras.
Peter

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I doubt that it would work.  What I notice here in CR is that it doesn’t like dry either, pretty sensitive.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durian grafting techniques
« on: November 08, 2024, 06:00:03 AM »
Nice video.
What I do is very similar. I leave more cut leaves and, as I said, I use a bag that encloses the whole plant. I’ve tried with the smaller bag and my result was not as good.
Something that surprises me in this video is how dry the medium in the bags looks. Near the end when he is examining different grafted plants some have lots of condensation inside the bags and others don’t seem to. Mine all have heavy condensation in the bag.
Anyway, those are my observations.
Thanks Jay for posting that video and promoting this discussion.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durian grafting techniques
« on: November 07, 2024, 11:58:45 AM »
I’m not sure why I’m having so much trouble loading fotos to this site but it doesn’t work for me right now. I have no problem with messenger or WhatsApp.
So my technique is to plant about 5 durian seeds in a wide pot. When their first leaves open they are ready and could still be good for another month or so. So very tender.
I generally clip the stem about 2cm above the wide part and do a simple cleft graft, using a scalpel for all my cuts. I use the same clips that Jay posted a foto of. Then I put sticks to slightly above the scions and put a clear plastic bag on. This bag needs to be completely closed and folded under the pot. After 2-3 weeks the bags come off. The successful grafts then are transplanted to individual pots and the foliage kept moist.
There are many details to get right with selecting the scions, making sure the rootstocks really want to grow, etc. I think a lot about cleanliness and sterilizing my knife constantly.
At first, grafting durian I was getting only about 20% take now it is probably about 85%. Sometimes it’s perfect and others maybe only half of the grafts take. But overall I’m happy with this.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durian grafting techniques
« on: November 06, 2024, 03:49:37 PM »
Most durian grafting in nurseries is done on very young and tender rootstock. In such a case it’s difficult to wrap the graft so I use clips that are intended for grafting tomatoes.
Peter

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Some of the garcinias we have in production are mangostan, parvifolia, forbesii, magnafolia, brasilensis, intermedia, madruno, prainiana. There’s probably more.
I recommend going to the Osa, but not really for looking for fruit. In that general region I would go to the San Isidro farmers market that is held on Thursdays. Two guys there specialize in rare fruits. Tonny Gracia has a large stand there and there’s an expat named Wade who sells some good stuff. Nearby is the farm of don Carlos. He produces some good durian and other rare fruits. You can find him on Facebook.
Two places in CR with very large roadside fruit stands are by the highway 27 in the vicinity of Orotina and also on the hwy 32 near the turnoff for Sarapiqui.
The farmers market in Puerto Viejo is on Saturdays.
Peter

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July is a tad early for some of the best fruit but it depends as the seasons on some fruits can be early or late easily. We won’t know until about May how the season is shaping up. We always have chupa chupa in August and September. There could be lots of garcinias, including mangosteen as well as durian and many others.
Costa Rica has lots of good farmers markets, fruit stands by the road, and areas concentrated in fruit orchards. There’s lots of fruit for sale around Orotina on the central pacific coast, then the Thursday farmers market in San Isidro, Perez Zeledon. The area of Puerto Viejo on the southern Caribbean coast is where we are and it’s a hub for fruit.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Stipitata VS Eugenia Victoriana
« on: October 31, 2024, 08:40:44 AM »
I don’t know anything about cold tolerance but stipitata seems to resist dryness pretty well. I planted lots of it years ago as an intercrop between large fruit trees planted at 35’ spacing.  Now that many of those araza are under some shade they still yield fruit.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Stipitata VS Eugenia Victoriana
« on: October 30, 2024, 10:51:57 PM »
I’ve been growing them both for like 20 years or more. Victoriana gives a nicer color but I really think that araza is better and a little easier to work with. Araza is a lower growing plant and the fruits are a bit larger. They are both used in similar ways.
We can have problems here with fruit fly with both of these fruits.
Peter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marang on jack and some other things
« on: October 26, 2024, 05:41:09 PM »
For some reason I haven’t been able to load the image I want to. But, regarding the pedalai. I have several artocarpus and I wanted to send a foto of a pedalai seedling I have in my nursery. It’s from our farm, we ate the fruit, and everybody agrees it’s pedalai. The leaves don’t look like your plant. The leaves on your ‘pedalai’ more closely resemble another artocarpus we have, anisophyllus.
Peter

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