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« on: February 13, 2025, 03:20:20 AM »
Peter and I met up in Jakarta and flew together to Central Kalimanton(Muara Teweh).  Eddie has been with Sinyo since the last part of December and is not going back home until the end of March.  Hardcore.  I've know people who can eat a lot of durian, but I am now convinced there is nobody who can gobble it up like this guy!  It was a great group of guys and having Peter and Eddie along sure made it easier on me.  Not only are they super knowledgeable, but it was great to be able to speak and hear so much English...if you can call Eddie's English!  LOL!

I had five days of fruit hunting.  The first three were incredible and these three alone made the entire trip worth every bit.  The last two days was more desperation and hoping to pull a rabbit out of their hats, but it was a miss with many fruits due to bad timing.  But no big deal.  I won't go into hotel issues here.  The city was much bigger and nicer than my believed we would find.  The people from the city to the ones in the far rural areas were all incredibly nice and welcoming.  Never once did I feel any fear of the area.  Most folks wanted pictures with us and/or waving and smiling.

Takeaways/conclusions:  First off...the artocarpus fruits are amazing.  If you are planning for a future trip, if possible, wait until the last minute to book your flights.  This will give you the best timing to hit as many fruits in season as possible.  Sinyo will send you a list of trees/fruit in each area and the general time frame.  Just keep in mind that the timing can shift either way.  Patience.  Their way of life is uncomplicated by timing restraints.  However, you must insist that the day's tour start early at a given time.  Be firm.  Afterall, you are the one paying for the service.  So early starts and late endings.  Try to keep everyone on track or things can get derailed for a time.  Also insist that there is no smoking in the vehicle.  Probably every male over the age of 14 smokes...non-stop...everywhere.  Sinyo is very very good at finding trees and fruit in these areas.  He has spent lots of time with the locals searching them out.  You could drive or even walk by an area and not have a hint that the trees were nearby.  Many are single trees in a family's yard.  Some are a bit more off the grid.  The first three days of fruit crossed many off of my bucket list.  My pitiful descriptions fall far short of how good some of these really were.   

The group from left to right:  Yuki Kanie from Japan.  Peter Kring from Costa Rica.  Eddie Ahahametoglu from Melbourne, Australia.  Sinyo...local and our guide.  Iplik...local and our driver.  Me.


The boys already had a car full of durio dulcis


Durio dulcis.  Good durian.  A creamy, kind of menthol-like flavor.


Walking the streets.  Baccaurea edulis.  This was excellent.  Flesh still clung to the seed, but not as bad as most others.


A wild nephelium.  Very tasty, but flesh really clung hard to seed.  And tiny.


Durio kutejensis.  Probably the most grown and most sold on streets and elsewhere.  They really love it.  These were not good.  Picked too soon.  We had better later in the week.  Lindsay
remarked that tree-dropped kutejensis was really good.  The riper they were, the better tasting for sure.


Another kutejensis.  Definitely cool looking.  Has the consistency of peanut butter.


Rambutan


Artocarpus lanceifolius (keledang).


Keledang fruit.  Sinyo was 20+ feet up in the tree getting fruit.  Can't stress enough just how good this fruit is.  Very sweet with a little apricot/mandarin orange, hint of acidity.  Almost like the drink mix Tang.  This sky rocketed to a top fruit.  Couldn't get enough of it.





Eddie and Peter checking out some roadside durian.




Artocarpus brevipedunculatus (bondon).  More climbing for Sinyo.  Very similar to keledang in all respects...much smaller.  Flavor may have been even more pronounced.  Crazy good.  Wasn't too many from the tree. 






The family who owned the tree wanted a pic with us.


Mangifera pajang. Mango relative. Strong, not exactly pleasant odor or flavor. Very juicy and as you can see, fibrous as can be. Thick strands too. Felt like fiberglass splinters in my mouth.


More roadside dulcis.


Going a bit off grid here in search of something special.


Prainea limpato.  Not only does it look something from a psychedelic acid trip, it tastes like it too cause nothing this crazy looking should taste this damn good.  Like pulling out giant candy corn.  This fruit is the holy grail of many in the hobby and I am really happy to finally get to try it.  I have read varying reviews about it, but I can tell you that it was quite amazing. 



Durio Graffithii


Baccaurea Laceolata


Willughbeias.  Another group on my bucket list.  Round one is angustifolia and elongated one is sarawacensis.  Yes...flavor brings to mind orange sherbet.  Both delicious.  Angustifolia may be just a tad better, but too close to really call it.  Flesh does cling to the seed, but they are so damn good, you just don't care.




Sinyo way up in a tree looking for willughbeias.


Willughbeia sp. (tampirik).  Again...very similar to other two.  This one has black seeds.


Artocarpus Teysmannii. Big sucker.  This is what was left after dropping three miles! Very similar to marang but much better. Like mashed bananas with a hint of honey. Very delicious. Would loved to have had more.




Artocarpus Kemando.  Looks like brevipedunculatus and about same size too.  But so different.  The shell was very leathery and didn’t want to split open by hand so out comes the knife. Another home run. Sweet with tones of honey and citrus…to me at least. Damn good fruit. Definitely wish we had dozens more.




Durio oxleyanus and dulcis. 


Cleaning seeds with burnt rice hull ash wetted down some.  Makes short work of it.  The willughbeias were the worst to clean.


Durio oxleyanus.  This is a very good durian and we ate all we could purchase.


Went to another limpato tree.  Still delicious.


Artocarpus anisophilus. Fruit looks ready but was really hard. I didn’t try any. Pretty cool color though.


Various selections for consumption.


A deconstructed keledang.  So good.


Must purchase more durian!






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Re: Borneo fruit hunting - with pics
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2025, 08:40:50 AM »
Very cool of you to share pics and accounts of your fruit hunting in Borneo! I am sure most of us dream of taking such a trip. Have been curious about limpato and willugeias for a long time now, super jelly! =)

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2025, 10:13:45 AM »
This was fantastic!Thanks for posting : )

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Re: Borneo fruit hunting - with pics
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2025, 10:20:25 AM »
Thanks for posting. Keledang sounds great! I wish travel from Florida to Boneo didn't take days.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2025, 12:13:54 PM »
thanks for the post!

making me want to place another order with maryoto despite my new climate being slightly worse for growing borneo species

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2025, 04:20:03 PM »
Awesome!  Thank you for posting this here.

The prainea limpato is something I had seen pictures of but didn't think much about.  I love candy corn so I am suddenly interested in this one. 

You mentioned "cleaning seeds with burnt rice hull ash wetted down some", I had been wondering recently how flesh-adhering seeds are cleaned.  Mine always get moldy because I can't clean them well, I will have to try ash and a rag next time.

And you renewed my interest in getting a keledang tree.  I have tried so many times to get seeds growing but none my seedlings survived past 2in tall.  I had sort of given up on it but now I will have to keep a lookout for seeds again. 

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2025, 05:15:15 PM »
Wow, awesomeness!

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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2025, 08:06:09 PM »
Getting seeds from Sinyo now is best since they are at their freshest and can get you a phyto if you choose.  He and his crew cleaned seeds each night going thru quite a rigorous procedure to not only clean, but add anti-fungals to them.  He has to do this cause it will allow him to store seeds for several months.  Peter and I did not have to go thru all of that since we were planting as soon as we got home.  We did opt to remove the flesh since that would have starting stinking.  Adam Shafron uses vermiculite in a bag and runs that thru a wash cycle.  I just used an old t-shirt with the ash and rubbed them clean.  In fact, the ones I left covered in the ash to clean the next day actually cleaned up a lot easier and faster...chemical from creating the ash broke down the flesh.  Luckily all of the artocarpus seeds popped right out of the flesh without any scrubbing necessary.  The mixture would have been nice for cleaning the durian seeds, but I had already cleaned those prior to receiving the ash.

Brian...just in case I confused anyone...the candy corn reference was just about the limpato's shape reminding me of giant candy corn.  Not the taste.  The taste difficult to describe.  It is sweet, bright, a little tangy.  A true delight.  For me...getting any of these artocarpus and willughbeia species to get past that stage has been a challenge as well.  I did manage to get a few keledang big enough to plant out, but that was it.  A big fat zero for the willughbeias.  I'm hoping some of the seedlings I pulled and brought back survive as well as the seeds...most of which were already in the process of germinating.

Speaking of germinating.  Here are my observations of what I found in the forest looking for seeds.  It was hot and the humidity was off the charts.  Everything was damp or just plain wet.  Borneo seems to get more rain or at least the frequency of showers whereas my area in Thailand is a desert bunghole.  So...chokingly high humidity and wet.  Lots of leaf and rotting fruit and tree litter on the ground.  And completely shaded over.  Seeds of any kind of nearby fruit littered the ground and all of them germinating where they landed...most not even covered by anything at all...loosely sparcely at best.  I tried to recreate this as best I could here.  What is driving me crazy is how can it be so wet in the forest and do just fine, and when I have done that here, the seedlings would dampen off and die.  I'm missing something.  Obviously the forest soil is full of microbes and mycorrhizal fungi...which I have added to the coco choir when mixing.  Maybe this will help.

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2025, 08:46:06 PM »
What an adventure!  It must be pretty exciting to take those seeds home and give it a go.  Thank you for sharing with those of us who refuse to submit to Meta. 

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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2025, 01:48:12 AM »
Epic

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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2025, 08:02:17 PM »
wow so many fruits I never seen or heard of. Great adventure. Thanks for reviews and pictures!

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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2025, 01:07:00 AM »
Thank you for sharing. Looks like a lifetime trip, amazing varieties. What a tropical fruit paradise!
Did you run into any issues with local biting critters?
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2025, 03:36:25 AM »
While we were in the woods it was surprising how few bites we got. Not an issue at all in the field.  Jay had some issues at the hotel over an unscreened vent in his room.  But the collecting went smoothly.
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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2025, 06:21:47 AM »
When deep in the forest, mosquitoes were massing around Peter but he seemed to never get bitten!  I sprayed down with Deet and that kept them at bay...they did continue to find holes in my defense.  I believe Yuki was having a tough time with them.  The hotel rooms were more issues for me than the forests.

The screen mesh on the vents in the hotel rooms were large enough for any mosquito in the country to easily fit thru.  Second floor didn't seem to have them as bad as the first floor.  My first, first floor room must have been located near a breeding farm.  I could not keep up with the number I had in the room.  I must have killed two dozen and yet they continued to appear.  Sinyo blocked off the vent and that helped.  About the time I had the mosquitoes under control, the toilet stopped working.  So I had to move a 3rd time...just two doors down.  I immediately taped off the vent, but I think they were coming in from the floor drain as well, just not as concentrated...so not as bad as previous room, but they kept me on my toes! 

Every now and then we would see a large ant...about an inch long.  I asked Sinyo about them and he just said..."yeah, they hurt".  Aside from a good sized, but very dead, cobra in the road, we didn't see any other snakes.  I did see a large hornet or two and stayed way the hell away from that.  I don't think it was the giant Asian hornet.  As far as critters go, that was about it.  We did a lot of walking around the forest looking for fruit and seeds moving plants and crap on the forest floor out of the way.  Only now and then did we remind each other by saying "hope there's no cobras around".  That was when you were like "Oh shit!  Forgot about that!". 

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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2025, 08:20:19 AM »
Very well written description of the trip. It was almost like being there. Fantastic photos of some pretty cool fruits!

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« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2025, 10:29:57 AM »
Thank you so much for sharing the pictures and the taste reviews! Ii must've been really awesome
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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2025, 11:03:54 AM »
Getting seeds from Sinyo now is best since they are at their freshest and can get you a phyto if you choose.  He and his crew cleaned seeds each night going thru quite a rigorous procedure to not only clean, but add anti-fungals to them.  He has to do this cause it will allow him to store seeds for several months.  Peter and I did not have to go thru all of that since we were planting as soon as we got home.  We did opt to remove the flesh since that would have starting stinking.  Adam Shafron uses vermiculite in a bag and runs that thru a wash cycle.  I just used an old t-shirt with the ash and rubbed them clean.  In fact, the ones I left covered in the ash to clean the next day actually cleaned up a lot easier and faster...chemical from creating the ash broke down the flesh.  Luckily all of the artocarpus seeds popped right out of the flesh without any scrubbing necessary.  The mixture would have been nice for cleaning the durian seeds, but I had already cleaned those prior to receiving the ash.

Brian...just in case I confused anyone...the candy corn reference was just about the limpato's shape reminding me of giant candy corn.  Not the taste.  The taste difficult to describe.  It is sweet, bright, a little tangy.  A true delight.  For me...getting any of these artocarpus and willughbeia species to get past that stage has been a challenge as well.  I did manage to get a few keledang big enough to plant out, but that was it.  A big fat zero for the willughbeias.  I'm hoping some of the seedlings I pulled and brought back survive as well as the seeds...most of which were already in the process of germinating.

Speaking of germinating.  Here are my observations of what I found in the forest looking for seeds.  It was hot and the humidity was off the charts.  Everything was damp or just plain wet.  Borneo seems to get more rain or at least the frequency of showers whereas my area in Thailand is a desert bunghole.  So...chokingly high humidity and wet.  Lots of leaf and rotting fruit and tree litter on the ground.  And completely shaded over.  Seeds of any kind of nearby fruit littered the ground and all of them germinating where they landed...most not even covered by anything at all...loosely sparcely at best.  I tried to recreate this as best I could here.  What is driving me crazy is how can it be so wet in the forest and do just fine, and when I have done that here, the seedlings would dampen off and die.  I'm missing something.  Obviously the forest soil is full of microbes and mycorrhizal fungi...which I have added to the coco choir when mixing.  Maybe this will help.

Thank you for all this detail.  After starting many batches of imported seeds I find that fungal rot seems to be the main killer of seeds for me.  I had considered using fungicide next time but wasn't sure what kind or how much.  Next killer was tiny insects boring into the seed, this is resolved by using truly sterile soil, I use coconut coir now.  Previously I had tried sterilizing some contaminated soil in the oven but it never worked right, I would find tiny weeds sprouting and bugs crawling afterwards.  I am actually now germinating seeds in damp paper towels on a heating pad until they start to sprout, then moving them to coir.  I keep finding mold growing on the paper towels and having to transfer the seeds to fresh ones.  I like that I can observe them starting to sprout but it feels like a huge waste of paper towels.

I figured I had misunderstood you on the candy corn thing when I started reading about limpata, but all the taste reports are great so I'm still sold. 

Adding beneficial fungi (without introducing anything else alive) is an interesting idea... I will have to look into and see if there's any studies on it.

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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2025, 01:53:43 PM »
I'll be honest, my fear about doing a trip like this would be catching a stomach bug and/or other stomach issues. Do you do anything to lessen the likelihood of this?

Fortunately, my finances prevent me from ever being able to travel to such amazing places. All the more reason I'm grateful for you sharing your experiences here for the non-facebook folk.

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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2025, 05:20:12 PM »
Fliptop...believe me...stomach issues were definitely on my mind.  We were warned NOT to drink the water...not even get it in our mouths.  So it was bottled water for brushing teeth and such.  Food you just had to be aware of.  One evening we were searching for a new place to eat and Sinyo stopped at this buffet stand.  Had quite the selection.  It was also all cold.  Hard to say how long it has been sitting out there, but I was taking no chances on it and risking food poisoning.  Peter ate it and had no issues.  I wasn't taking the chance and would rather go hungry.  Of course...you have to check any food stand for this...just never know.  Other than that, I don't think it was a huge concern.

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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2025, 07:09:45 PM »
Thanks, TropicalFruitHunters! I would have passed on the buffet, too, but am glad Peter was okay😄

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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2025, 07:43:46 PM »
So to respond to a couple of things.
The buffet was cold but it had been screened off.  I mainly wanted vegetables.  The well cooked veges would be safer than salad. 
Jay and Eddie ate some weird hamburgers that I wasn’t going to eat!!

Mosquitoes were flying around but I think they were males, not biting.  I never even applied repellent.

About fungus on seeds.  The forest floor seemed to be a good place for germination and nobody was applying fungicide there.  I am in the camp of using lactic acid microorganisms and/or trachederma with coir as a medium.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2025, 09:26:25 PM »
TropicalFruitHunters, the fruit shown on theferns site looks super different than what you show here?? Plus, they're not sure what they're showing is edible??

https://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Prainea+limpato
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2025, 09:48:55 PM »
TropicalFruitHunters, the fruit shown on theferns site looks super different than what you show here?? Plus, they're not sure what they're showing is edible??

https://tropical.theferns.info/viewtropical.php?id=Prainea+limpato
Those are wrong fruit pictures!

 

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