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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ice cream bean questions
« on: February 21, 2024, 03:40:59 PM »
Never seen a flower on it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ice cream bean questions
« on: February 21, 2024, 01:31:36 PM »
I have had one in Central Florida 9b/10a for about 8 years or so. Its roughly 18 feet tall and would be that spread if I didnt cut it back every few years. I have never had any fruit/pods from it. No clue why, it gets plenty of irrigation and hasnt frozen back in a few years.

It would be either Brogden avocado(once I took the deer fence down) or Surinam cherry. I dont do anything for either of them and they produce heavily.

I didnt know it grew as ground cover. I have mine outdoors climbing up an oak tree. Seems to really like it there and I have had multiple fruit from it. Its been there 5 years or so and it about 8 feet tall. Does not inhibit the oak at all as would be expected.

Never had a problem with germinating Surinams here and I am the Black Death when it comes to seeds typically. I just dont like them enough to plant more than the two I already have in ground. I have well over a hundred various seeds currently in trays on heat pads and the only ones that have germinated for me are three Royal Poincianas(Flamboyan(SP?)) out of ten so far lol. Yay me!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: container black sapote seedling is flowing
« on: February 05, 2024, 08:41:59 AM »
Because I picked a Balck Sapote up in a nursery going out of business sale a few weeks back, I intend on keeping it in a container for the next few years until its big enough to survive our winters in the ground. What kind of soil mix are you using?

Nursery and gold mine in the same sentence?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: COLD HARDY LYCHEES & LONGANS
« on: February 01, 2024, 01:14:10 PM »
No clue what you are and arent able to source out there. Up above its mentioned that Emperor is a mountainous variety.

So I planted the ice cream mango and the Natal Plum. I put a good layer of mulch on them to try and keep some moisture in the ground. We will see how it goes.

As for the drip line, this is roughly 300 feet from my well which is the closest water source and the berm is an almost sheer 6 foot cliff on the yard facing side. Alternatively I can grab a bucket and use canal water, which is 30 feet away. The goal is to let them do their thing and I will only be watering them sporadically.

I am in far east Orlando not too far from the St John's. We have a vicious variety of nematode that doesnt really care about figs being resistant. I have had LSU Purple and it lasted three years before giving up the ghost. Normal figs make it about two. First year goes well but they go downhill from there. I have some in pots where they cannot contact the soil and have had them 5+ years.

I never thought about mango although I have an old one that got froze back to the roots about 11 years ago I transplanted back there. It is still alive but is only about 3-4 foot tall. I just picked up a "cheap" 7 gallon ice cream mango over the weekend so maybe I will give it a try back there. Deer pressure would prevent me from putting avocados in such an unprotected and well visited area. They use the canal service road on the other side as a highway.

I have had sapodilla in the past, cold knocked it out, which might be a problem with unprotected mango.

Young loquats are a delicacy to deer and super slow growing.

Bottlebrush without water? Interesting.

Weirdly enough I have a Natal Plum in a pot I havent stuck in the ground yet. Lack of water wont bother it?

I have a grey sand berm in my back 40 from when they dug the canal behind my property. Are there any fruiting or flowering trees anyone can think of that will grow there? Sand is pretty loose and dry. Gopher tortoises love it and have many burrows in there. But my neighbor across the canal is planning on clearing the woods there(grrr) and I would rather not see his property out my back windows. Something bushy, preferably fruiting, and likes being relatively dry. I have tried various desert and beach type trees like mesquite and sea grape with no success. As Nick from Nick's Edibles likes to say, I live in what was the arctic of 9b, although now its 10a in East Orange County. 

I have had no ripened melons or pumpkins of any kind here in Central FL but I keep trying since I hate being beaten by something. (Its why I havent torn my stupid apples trees down :P) I might hunt down some Edisto 47 and sugar cube seeds this time around. I need to re-work the soil in the bed I want to put them in. Its compacted quite a bit in the last couple years. Its a 4x4 bed with 5 foot tall cattle fencing on 3 sides. I figure stirring it up and adding perlite and earthworm castings should help. Melons along the sides and French Marigolds and caster beans or field peas(for the nitrogen fixing) in the center. I need to make a Home Depot run at lunch today anyway for some other projects. I look to get them in the ground in the next few weeks as I absolutely suck at growing seeds and transplanting lol.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: 5-1-1
« on: January 18, 2024, 01:49:59 PM »
Oh wow, so there is no actual soil or sand?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: 5-1-1
« on: January 18, 2024, 09:49:17 AM »
What is the 5-1-1 mix? I have seen it mentioned being good for other trees that do not like wet feet as well.

So after reading this thread, there doesnt seem to be a consensus even for the same types of trees.
I am in Central Florida, using fabric pots, about to put a few mango trees in them. I have access to fox farm soil mix and whatever I can get at home depot or lowes. I have some well aged pine fines as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nematodes and Fruit trees
« on: January 16, 2024, 10:09:03 AM »
I found the Sea Fox Farms potting soil from Ace Hardware does a great job rooting fig cuttings. I had 95% success rate with the last batch I did in solo cups a few months ago.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: figs!!!! an underated fruit
« on: January 12, 2024, 11:32:40 AM »
@zwanif- ok you convinced me. I ordered some cuttings of that and a few other oddballs I saw available.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: figs!!!! an underated fruit
« on: January 12, 2024, 09:23:46 AM »
Is Bakor self fertile or does it require a wasp?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nematodes and Fruit trees
« on: January 11, 2024, 09:16:17 AM »
Some trees are especially vulnerable like fig trees and there is NOTHING in Central eastern Florida grey sand that can be done to prevent them. Even resistant varieties will only last slightly longer. Blackberry Jam trees are also vulnerable, not quite as badly as figs but noticably so. In my yard which is loaded with nematodes, I have not noticed any real effect on mango, avocado, citrus, etc. I havent looked but a mention above of grapes has me wondering if thats why my grapes never taken off.

Maybe after 20 years of constant mulching it might make a difference but less than 10 years of mulching and mulch breakdown and you will not notice a difference with nematode pressure. I have tried buying nematode predators and did not see a difference. You can solarize the soil and sure, wipe out everything in it but give it a year and they will be right back.

Havent tried the mustard seed thing. Might be worth a try since it grows pretty well here.

I grow figs in pots on concrete tiles to prevent errant roots from contacting the soil. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: figs!!!! an underated fruit
« on: January 09, 2024, 08:45:57 AM »
Troph, it is possible to protect them by growing in containers with sterilized media, or do the nematodes go everywhere?
Containers are the only way we can grow them. They just wont get very big. I have about a half dozen various figs in bigger pots and some unknowns in cups from an old, abandoned orchard I found in GA that I was able to root recently. I have tried the open bottom 5 gallon bucket and have not been impressed. I think the sand we have is just too deep and loose and the nematodes just go under the bucket and into the soil inside. These RKN apparently do not have the weakness to high organics in the soil like they do elsewhere.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nursery near Orlando
« on: January 08, 2024, 08:48:53 AM »
Lucas Nursery is worth visiting if just for wandering around. Its fruit tree prices are horrible, but its a huge nursery with tons of ornamentals including lots of weird stuff, several indoor/shade areas and a butterfly garden experience(never went on it myself).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: figs!!!! an underated fruit
« on: January 08, 2024, 08:44:13 AM »
Another problem with figs is quite a few of our members live in areas where growing figs is difficult due to an extremely bad Root Knot Nematode which will devastate even supposed resistant trees in a couple years. I grow some in pots that I got from cuttings a few years back, but they dont get very big and have poor fruit harvests.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grow bags?
« on: December 11, 2023, 08:39:00 AM »
Wouldnt having plastic dishes under them eventually rot the bottoms of the bags?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grow bags?
« on: December 08, 2023, 03:48:01 PM »
Appreciate the offer. I live on the exact opposite end of the county from the parks. It would cost almost as much as the amazon deal in tolls to get out there. But thanks for the link, seems like a pretty good deal.

I have been using fox farm potting soil lately on a lot of things. Seems like pretty good stuff. Maybe I'll mix in some extra perlite.

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