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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Trying to understand chilling hours for apples
« on: August 19, 2022, 05:57:35 AM »
So I live in an 11b area of the Canary Islands.

Apples should not bear fruit because the temperature is not chill enough. However, there are plenty of apple trees everywhere, even on public spaces, all with fruit.

Given this situation, I'm considering planting 3 varieties close together to grow into a "single tree", but prior to that, I'm trying to understand why are they bearing fruit if the chilling requirements are not met?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What's going on with this yellow sapote?
« on: August 18, 2022, 01:25:12 PM »
What's going on with this yellow sapote?



It's the only tree in my backyard with such a bad looking leaves.

I haven't seen any insect on them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ants invasion under the mulching of lychee and avocado
« on: August 09, 2022, 08:18:45 AM »
I have several trees in my backyard, but I have detected that specifically under the mulching of two trees (an avocado and a lychee), there are thousands of ants.

Every time I water those trees, they start to move everywhere, including climbing the tree.

What can I do to deal with them in a natural way? I don't want to use chemical products as we are talking about fruit trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / A dilemma with my lychees...
« on: July 24, 2022, 07:43:17 AM »
These are my two lychees:





I got the first one about two weeks ago and put it in the ground right away. In theory, it was a Sweetheart.

Then, I tasted a lychee for the first time (it's not a fruit you can find in a market here), and that damn thing is pretty delicious! So, I bought the second one about a week ago, a Suey Tong, just to have a different variety. However, it turns out the nursery only sells Suey Tong, so the first one is also a Suey Tong...

And here's my dilemma...

I have two spots for them. The main one, where it's possible to grow with a good rounded shape, is where the tree is planted already. The second spot would better support an "elliptic shape", as it's close to the wall but wide.

Now, if you look at those two trees, it looks like the one already in the ground is perfect for the other spot, and the one that is in the pot is perfect for the main one, as it has a more upright shape. Also, it looks more healthier than the one in the ground, with more established leaves and not so many young ones.

Would it be wise to make the swap? As it was recently planted, I hardly doubt it has established a root system outside of the rootball yet. Would this tree with low bifurcation eventually form a rounded shape?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Persimmon or pomegranate along side a nectarine?
« on: July 20, 2022, 02:07:25 PM »
Long story short, I'd like to plant a pomegranate or a persimmon close (as in 2-in-1 hole) to a nectarine tree.

Which would cause less troubles down the road? As we are talking about different families here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Young nectarine new growth going to cross established branches
« on: July 17, 2022, 03:36:01 PM »
The new growth of my young sunwright nectarine tree is growing in a direction that eventually will cross with existing branches.

As nectarines bear fruit on last years' growth, what should I do? Should I prune them now? Or should I wait until next year?

In the following picture there is an example:




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / A couple of questions about lychees
« on: July 09, 2022, 06:03:59 AM »
I got this Sweetheart, coming from an air layering:



I'm considering allocating for it either a space of 2.2 x 2m, or the full area of 3.2 x 2.2m. The first case is where it's right now, and the circle on the right would be for a small kumquat. Should I decide to allocate all the space, the lychee would be in the middle.

All this area will have grass on it probably, except for some area around the base of the tree/trees. I was thinking on using geotextile fabric and stones because this area tends to have a lot of weeds, but that would probably impact the nutrients available for the lychee. What do you think? Would it be wise to use inorganic mulch here instead of grass?

And the second question is about, at this current size, would it be better if I move it to a pot, or can I plant it directly in the ground? I have read that lychees should be kept in pots until they are big enough to cope with wind, but don't know what's "big enough".

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Are Lychees really that weak against wind?
« on: July 04, 2022, 04:38:13 PM »
My backyard is somewhat windy as there are no buildings neither at the right nor at the left side, so it's a perfect corridor for the wind to pass freely. Let's say on normal windy days, maybe averages are about 30Km/h, with gusts which can double that speed.

I have read lychees are too weak to wind, but I have seen videos of trees in the wild, or even planted in front-yards, so they're really exposed... and they are thriving. So, that makes me wonder, are Lychees really that weak to wind?

I'd like to plant one in my backyard, but I don't want to cover it with some strong shielding. I want to see my tree! xD

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Recommendations for filling some spots in my backyard
« on: June 18, 2022, 03:02:23 PM »
These are my average temperatures:



And this is a sketch of my backyard:




I already have:
  • Avocados Hass, Fuerte, Reed
  • Papaya Honey
  • Mango Lippens
  • Orange Lane Late
  • Mandarin Clemenule
  • Lilly Pilly
  • Nectarine Sunwrigth
  • Plums Golden Japan and Black Amber

I have room for other three trees, marked with ?. Probably bottom right will be for a dragon fruit.

Any ideas for the other two in the left side? The one next to the mango has to be evergreen, the one at the bottom left can be deciduous like the nectarine and the plums.

A classic choice for the evergreen would be a lemon, but I'm looking for other choices.

Recommendations?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Papayas don't thrive
« on: June 13, 2022, 03:11:52 PM »
This is the second attempt at planting papayas, and it's going down the path of my previous one.

Leaves start to shrink, to become yellow/white, and eventually, they all fall.





Weather should not be a problem. It's not ideal, but it's ok. There are other papaya trees around.
Drainage is good. Puddles drain quickly.

What else could be wrong?
 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Planting multiple mangoes in a small space
« on: June 02, 2022, 03:59:15 PM »
In a small space of about 2.5 by 6 meters in my backyard, I want to plant 3 mango varieties, or maybe 2 and an Hass avocado.

I was thinking what would be the best strategy. Some ideas:
  • Plant them separated by ~2m. If planting an avocado, maybe the mangoes closer and then more room for the avocado
  • If 2 mangoes and avocado, plant the 2 mangoes separated by less than a meter so they grow as "the same tree", and then the avocado in the other side.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Which mango variety do you recommend me for this case?
« on: May 18, 2022, 03:35:15 PM »
I'm looking for a mango tree with a dense canopy, which can grow in "air space" as much as it wants, but roots are somewhat constrained, as it would be planted about one meter from the walls.
Assuming a rectangle, it would be on the top right corner.

It has to be fiberless and sweet.

Which variety do you recommend me? So far, in near nurseries I have spotted Van Dyke, Lippens, Kent, Keitt, Haden, Valencia Pride, Manzanillo, Osteen, and Torbert.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can you identify this mango?
« on: May 11, 2022, 05:23:33 PM »
My backyard has this mango tree:




I don't have any clue about how old it is (guess about 3-4 years ago) and about the variety.

It's not grafted and it has not given any fruit yet, so I can't use that to identify it.

Young leaves are both red and brown-greenish.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Would it be wise to trim this mango branch?
« on: May 09, 2022, 08:58:01 AM »
The branching on this mango was established too close to the soil, instead of about 3 feet above as it's usually recommended.




This is resulting in a mango that it's spreading at a low height. If I wanted my mango to grow wide at about 7 feet, would it be wise to trim the right-side branch (the smallest)? Or that wouldn't change anything at this time as the tree has already its structure?

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