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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: bill_bayarea on March 28, 2022, 11:40:25 PM
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1. First round group buy, 550 trees: https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=45912.msg447057
Started collecting orders on 12/16/21.
Trees were pulled from ground on 1/15/22, got shipped by air on 1/17/22, and were released by USDA on 1/21/22
2. Second round group buy, 630 trees: https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=46316.msg450377#msg450377
Started collecting orders on 2/1/22.
Trees were pulled from ground on 2/27/22, got shipped by air on 3/1/22, and were released by USDA on 3/07/22
3. For the December 2022's group buy, please feel free add your name. Any thoughts/requests are welcome.
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Potential buyers:
Chris ( Bay area)
Tu L( Florida)
Brent F ( zip 10709)
Mei M ( Hawaii) ( 10 trees)
GOZIP
Kevin ( Hawaii)
hawkfish007 ( SoCal zip 92346) 8 trees( 2 X 4 varieties).
dmitrig( 8 trees)
Elopez( New York)
TropicalDoc( Hawaii)
Vail
Pasca
Daisy( 3 female, 1 male)
12Zodiac( 3 female, 1 male)
jerryrwu ( 6, bay area)
Itay G( 5)
xpy(bay area)
Nathanguy14( 5, NC)
Okvid (5)
CarolinaZone()
dddsss (4)
TropicalFruitSeeker(Vancouver Wa)
jtnguyen333
Reedo ( 7-10 plants)
JohnLiu_bayarea ( 4, 3 female, 1 male)
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Count me in for December.
Just try to find cheaper price than $45, so we can order more!
Emir Lopez
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Im interested in this December order. I’m near Hilo, Hawaii. Thanks!
Kevin
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Interested in a December order. Located in Florida. Thanks!
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Hey Bill. Awesome of you to start this up again!
Will there be any new/different cultivars available in December?
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Yeah what roblack said…..and less costly ones…to buy more!
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let me wait for my order from March plants recovery. I will replace them if some of them croak.
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I would be interested to buy 2 trees
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I'm in again. Possibly ordering for a couple friends too. Thanks Bill
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I'd be interested in 5 trees.
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I'd be interested in 5 trees.
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What varieties this order?
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FIRE IT UP. I'm in.
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Talk about how time flies, 12 months since Beicadad started the recent craze on getting trees and ~4 months since Bill revved it up double time. Like knlim000 said, if the current trees don't make it or a compelling new variety , cultivar, or simple desire. Actually, the siblings are now interested too.
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do the Yangmei need chill hours? can they be grown in S. Florida? are they self fertile or do they need two or more trees?
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We might be introduce a couple of new varieties. Do not know yet now.
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do the Yangmei need chill hours? can they be grown in S. Florida? are they self fertile or do they need two or more trees?
Not sure about the chilling hours, from some feedback, so far trees in the first round group buy are doing well in Florida.
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Sign me up for 2 in Vancouver Wa.
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Count me in! 10 trees in Hawaii. Mei M.
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Very very interested! In Southern California, would like around 4 for now! :)
Edit: Wanted to clarify after reading post #1 that Yangmei do require at least one male for pollination, and acquiring just one tree would not lead to fruiting?
Thanks!
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Oops. Everbody is saying how many trees they want. Ok, I want 16.
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One tree for me :)
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Will these be the same vendors? if so, will you/ have you discussed the concerns with the root knot nematodes?
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Very very interested! In Southern California, would like around 4 for now! :)
Edit: Wanted to clarify after reading post #1 that Yangmei do require at least one male for pollination, and acquiring just one tree would not lead to fruiting?
Thanks!
Good to have one male tree for pollination. For pollination, check the top of the first round group buy page:
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=45912.msg447057
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Will these be the same vendors? if so, will you/ have you discussed the concerns with the root knot nematodes?
We are not going to work with the grower which gives us the root knot nematodes issue.
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One tree for me :)
Minimum order: 4 tree please. Lots of work in packing, shipping, order tracking. Please put considerations.
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Very very interested! In Southern California, would like around 4 for now! :)
Edit: Wanted to clarify after reading post #1 that Yangmei do require at least one male for pollination, and acquiring just one tree would not lead to fruiting?
Thanks!
Good to have one male tree for pollination. For pollination, check the top of the firm round group buy page.
Thanks!
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add me up
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Bill, please include me for 3 trees, one must be male.
I live in Florida Pandhandle, zone 9a. of the 4 trees I got from 1st order, 2 have new leaves and are doing very well.
Thanks for your effort.
Lin Tung
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I want 3 female and 1 male Yangmei trees please.
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I’m down with 3 female and 1 male. Thx.
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In for 6, bay area California!
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In, add me up with 5 trees.
Thank you Bill
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Please count me in the December order. Bay area.
Thanks!
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Put me down for 5. Raleigh, NC!
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Add me to the list.
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Hi Bill, please add my name in for the December 2022 yangmei group buy.
I need 4 trees (3 female, 1 male). Thank you.
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I’m in for 7-10 plants. Thanks Bill!
Reed
Santa Cruz, CA
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Put me down for 3 females and one male. Thanks
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I am interested in 3 female and 1 male.
Socal
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Hi Bill,
I would like to get these varieties bellow ,
Biqi(荸荠) 2 female trees
Late Growing(晩稲) 2 female trees
Crystal(水晶) 2 female and 1 male trees
Dongkui(东魁) 2 female and 1 male trees
Black Crystal 2 female and 1 male trees
An Hai 2 female trees
WuSu(乌酥) 2 female trees
I will pick up ,
Ken Nguyen
Thanks Bill
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Potential buyers:
Chris ( Bay area)
Tu L( Florida)
Brent F ( zip 10709)
Mei M ( Hawaii) ( 10 trees)
GOZIP
Kevin ( Hawaii)
hawkfish007 ( SoCal zip 92346) 8 trees( 2 X 4 varieties).
dmitrig( 8 trees)
Elopez( New York)
TropicalDoc( Hawaii)
Vail
Pasca
Daisy( 3 female, 1 male)
12Zodiac( 3 female, 1 male)
jerryrwu ( 6, bay area)
Itay G( 5)
xpy(bay area)
Nathanguy14( 5, NC)
Okvid (5)
CarolinaZone()
dddsss (4)
TropicalFruitSeeker(Vancouver Wa)
jtnguyen333
Reedo ( 7-10 plants)
JohnLiu_bayarea ( 4, 3 female, 1 male)
Drstew ( 4, 3 female, 1 male)
GrowerA(Ken, Nguyen , total 17)
Biqi(荸荠) 2 female trees
Late Growing(晩稲) 2 female trees
Crystal(水晶) 2 female and 1 male trees
Dongkui(东魁) 2 female and 1 male trees
Black Crystal 2 female and 1 male trees
An Hai 2 female trees
WuSu(乌酥) 2 female trees
Fishygood ( 4, 3 female, 1 male)
Janet ( 8 trees)
roblack (4-8 trees)
Epiphyte (16 trees)
Kankan (20 trees)
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4 - 8 trees for me
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updated in the list above.
One of my good Yangmei growing friends suggests I plan the trees directly on the ground. It has turned out a good result in my backyard.
Crystal:
(https://i.postimg.cc/sQSK8pmB/image0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQSK8pmB)
Dongkui Male
(https://i.postimg.cc/v1C33PrF/image1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1C33PrF)
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Bill,
2 of each
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Biqi(荸荠) 1 female tree
Crystal(水晶) 1 female trees
Dongkui(东魁) 1 female and 1 male trees
I am in San Diego
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Id Like 20 trees (18 F, 2 M). Fallbrook, CA. San Diego County.
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16 trees please...
Biqi: 1 male / 1 female
Late Growing: 2 females
Crystal: 2 females
Dongkui: 4 females
Black Crystal: 2 females
An Hai: 2 females
WuSu: 2 females
Los Angeles
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16 trees please...
Biqi: 1 male / 1 female
Late Growing: 2 females
Crystal: 2 females
Dongkui: 4 females
Black Crystal: 2 females
An Hai: 2 females
WuSu: 2 females
Los Angeles
Thanks, I have updated the request in the list above.
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Id Like 20 trees (18 F, 2 M). Fallbrook, CA. San Diego County.
Thanks, I have updated the request in the list above.
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Bill, did you see my request?
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Hi Bill,
Ill update my order to 2 female 2 male black crystal trees.
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Hello Bill. I'm in for at least 10 trees. Thanks again.
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I’m on the list already but want to add number of trees - 10 for me total, with those including different varieties. Thanks!
Kevin (Hawaii)
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Potential buyers:
Chris ( Bay area)
Tu L( Florida)
Brent F ( zip 10709)
Mei M ( Hawaii) ( 10 trees)
GOZIP
Kevin ( Hawaii)
hawkfish007 ( SoCal zip 92346) 8 trees( 2 X 4 varieties).
dmitrig( 8 trees)
Elopez( New York)
TropicalDoc( Hawaii 10)
Vail
Pasca
Daisy( 3 female, 1 male)
12Zodiac( 3 female, 1 male)
jerryrwu ( 6, bay area)
Itay G( 5)
xpy(bay area)
Nathanguy14( 5, NC)
Okvid (5)
CarolinaZone(14, 2 X each)
dddsss (4)
TropicalFruitSeeker(Vancouver Wa 2 female 2 male black crystal )
jtnguyen333
Reedo ( 7-10 plants)
JohnLiu_bayarea ( 4, 3 female, 1 male)
Drstew ( 4, 3 female, 1 male)
GrowerA(Ken, Nguyen , total 17)
Biqi(荸荠) 2 female trees
Late Growing(晩稲) 2 female trees
Crystal(水晶) 2 female and 1 male trees
Dongkui(东魁) 2 female and 1 male trees
Black Crystal 2 female and 1 male trees
An Hai 2 female trees
WuSu(乌酥) 2 female trees
Fishygood ( 4, 3 female, 1 male)
Janet ( 8 trees)
roblack (4-8 trees)
Epiphyte (16 trees)
Kankan (20 trees)
shmojojojo(10+)
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How are trees getting distributed to FL???
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How are trees getting distributed to FL???
By priority mail. In past two times, we had buyers from FL, and they were happy with the shipping. The trees are growing well per some feedback.
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Please add me to the list. The qty of trees will depend on which varieties will be offered. Estimate 10 trees
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I am in, please ping me if I don't respond as I don't often check this section of the forum. You can send me a message and I should get the notification when the time comes.
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I will order 5 x Dongkui(东魁) female.
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I’ll take at least 4
Thanks
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When do we make final selection and confirm our order? or is this it?
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Hi Bill
Can you please put me down for 12 trees? 3 of each female please.
Orange county, California
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Please put me down for 4 trees. Thanks.
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When do we make final selection and confirm our order? or is this it?
You put the order request here, we will finalize in October or after.
Thanks, bill
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Hi Bill,
Ill update my order to 2 female 2 male black crystal trees.
male black crystal will not be available. Please select other male types.
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I have moved the order request to the google sheet for easier tracking.
You can update your varieties or add a new line of order by yourself.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
The total estimated tree # is 379 now.
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I have moved the order request to the google sheet for easier tracking.
You can update your varieties or add a new line of order by yourself.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
The total estimated tree # is 379 now.
At the bottom, the row with the names is not aligned to the top row of names
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Yin 8 trees (Bay Area)
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Interested in the 4 min, sounds like probably should do 3F 1M.
FL
Thanks!
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If you would be willing to ship to Phoenix, I'd be interested in 6 female of different varieties and 1 male
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I have moved the order request to the google sheet for easier tracking.
You can update your varieties or add a new line of order by yourself.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
The total estimated tree # is 379 now.
At the bottom, the row with the names is not aligned to the top row of names
Fixed. Anyone who is interested in the December's group buy, you can directly update the sheet by adding a new row at the bottom in the Google work sheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
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Updated. Thanks.
Wondering if the farm you are ordering from has anything else for sale. I'm especially interested in some of the popular varieties of Lychee in China. Varieties we can buy here were imported more than 100 years ago and they taste nothing like those in China.
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Bill,
do you have any idea on what the price of these will be? I'm assuming the same as last time?
I want to go big or go home and start an orchard of these here. Thanks for doing this again!
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Bill,
do you have any idea on what the price of these will be? I'm assuming the same as last time?
I want to go big or go home and start an orchard of these here. Thanks for doing this again!
If the seller keeps the same price, there will be no change for US. Hope they will not have a big increase.
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I have moved the order request to the google sheet for easier tracking.
You can update your varieties or add a new line of order by yourself.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
The total estimated tree # is 379 now.
At the bottom, the row with the names is not aligned to the top row of names
Fixed. Anyone who is interested in the December's group buy, you can directly update the sheet by adding a new row at the bottom in the Google work sheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
Bill - Order #30 for yumyumtree on the spreadsheet is not mine. I only needed 4 trees, it's probably someone else's order. Please update.
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Bill,
do you have any idea on what the price of these will be? I'm assuming the same as last time?
I want to go big or go home and start an orchard of these here. Thanks for doing this again!
If the seller keeps the same price, there will be no change for US. Hope they will not have a big increase.
Thanks. And I assume no RKN dealings?
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Please put me down for 4 trees (3 females and 1 male). Thank you.
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I would like to be included in the group order and would like 5 Yangmei trees, two males and three females. ;D
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I would like to be included in the group order and would like 5 Yangmei trees, two males and three females. ;D
Updated in the list for the requests above.
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Hey Bill,
Im down for 10 trees.
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Hi Bill,
I like to have 4 female and 2 male trees. If we are getting new varieties, I will get more trees. SoCal. Escondido, CA
Ken
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Hi Bill,
I like to have 4 female and 2 male trees. If we are getting new varieties, I will get more trees. SoCal. Escondido, CA
Ken
Updated, thank you!
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Will you guys do another order next year? Gotta give my self time to prepare to take care of them as I hear they’re hard to grow
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Will you guys do another order next year? Gotta give my self time to prepare to take care of them as I hear they’re hard to grow
Indeed very hard for me. 4 out 18. None of my female Dongkui(东魁) made it. My only 1 x male Dongkui(东魁) is doing great, I need female now.
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Yangmei does not seem "hard to grow." Rejuvenating plants that have been bare-rooted and shipped from China is the hard part. Once established, they are pretty hardy.
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Can agree with Rob. Once they are revived, they are easy to grow. Not much to prepare for these other than well draining soil and a way to keep them humid and sheltered. I'm hesistant to order on this order cause it'll be mid winter. Much better in the spring at least for me up here.
I got all 4 to grow but one died later maybe cause of too much water. That's a big problem. Don't overwater until they get good roots. yangmei can take lots of water when they are revived. Water too much too early and they will get root rot.
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I am interested in 2 female, and 1 male.
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Best way to prep is with good rootstock to graft onto when trees arrive, and be ready for temp and humidity control. Don't forget the buddy tape.
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Please add me as well
I will order one of each
Thank you
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
Thanks all, I have updated in the work sheet. The current estimated order is 475.
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I would like to purchase 3 plants, one must be male.
Lin Tung
505 Camelia Sreet, Panama City Beach, FL 32497.
Phone 850-832-1457
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Bill,
I had ordered 3 plants. I did not know there is 4 plants minimum. Please change the order to 4 plants total, with one male plant. You can choose the varieties for me. The small plants i got last year are doing extremely well here in Florida Panhandle. Thanks for your kind effort.
Lin Tung
8508321457
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Bill,
Please add me for 4 plants: 2 male, 2 female. Location, Anaheim Hills, CA
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I hope this thread is still active. I would like to have 3. 1 male and 2 females. Thanks, Thomas.
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I hope this thread is still active. I would like to have 3. 1 male and 2 females. Thanks, Thomas.
4 plants is minimum. You can have 3 female, and 1 male.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
Folks, you can add/update your order directly in the work sheet.
Total estimated plant # is 483 now.
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Done, thanks!
Also, for some reason I'm listed twice on the spreadsheet, so I just entered my order on the first listing of my name (feel free to delete the second TropicalDoc entry). Thanks!
Kevin
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Done, thanks!
Also, for some reason I'm listed twice on the spreadsheet, so I just entered my order on the first listing of my name (feel free to delete the second TropicalDoc entry). Thanks!
Kevin
Updated the worksheet. Deleted the duplicated lines. Thanks.
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6 please: 4F2M
Santa Rosa, CA 95403
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Thanks, updated in the worksheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
Total estimated plant # is 504 now.
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Hi Bill,
Whats the plan to not have nematodes come with this shipment if your going through the same supplier ?
As it was an issue and hassle on the previous order , delaying pickup , which caused an extra day of bare root before reaching their final destinations, and causing considerable concern for those not wishing to spread root knot nematodes into their soil. Folks had to change plans on planting out and do their own unexpected quarantine.
Was this addressed with the supplier, or whats the plan with the RKN for this next import?
I know this is a labor of love and great to see community work together to make this happen and everyone is super thankfull for your time and effort.
The pest issue is important though ya know.
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5 here, 3F2M
Cape Coral, FL, 33904
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Hi Bill,
Whats the plan to not have nematodes come with this shipment if your going through the same supplier ?
As it was an issue and hassle on the previous order , delaying pickup , which caused an extra day of bare root before reaching their final destinations, and causing considerable concern for those not wishing to spread root knot nematodes into their soil. Folks had to change plans on planting out and do their own unexpected quarantine.
Was this addressed with the supplier, or whats the plan with the RKN for this next import?
I know this is a labor of love and great to see community work together to make this happen and everyone is super thankfull for your time and effort.
The pest issue is important though ya know.
Thanks for your question and concern! This time we will ask the exporter to exclude that grower. We will use the grower for our first group buy last year.
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i would like 2 males and 2 females. Thanks
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i would like 2 males and 2 females. Thanks
added in the worksheet. Thanks.
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Any update on the order?
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Hi Bill,
Has the order for December 2022 already gone out? Is it possible to still order some trees? Also, do you plan to have a future order anytime soon?
Regards,
Pouya
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Hi Bill,
Has the order for December 2022 already gone out? Is it possible to still order some trees? Also, do you plan to have a future order anytime soon?
Regards,
Pouya
We are going to send the group order very soon. Thank you for your interest.
bill
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Folks,
We have finalized the price with exporter. This time the price is $50 each for female or male trees. I am starting to take payment. As we did as previous time, the payment method can be via payPal: janicezhang807@gmail.com ( please use the option sending money to friend) or Zelle: biaozhang@hotmail.com. When you make the payment, please add your order number, name, email address, and shipping address.
Thank you!
bill
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Please double check the Qty and varieties in the google worksheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
You can send me email to biaozhang@hotmail.com for any inquires or order confirmation.
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Hi Bill,
For my order, all 5 orders are for female DongKui.
Thanks,
Al
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Hi Bill,
For my order, all 5 orders are for female DongKui.
Thanks,
Al
Modified. Please verify in the worksheet.
Thank you, bill
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Folks,
We have finalized the price with exporter. This time the price is $50 each for female or male trees. I am starting to take payment. As we did as previous time, the payment method can be via payPal: biaozhang@hotmail.com ( please use the option sending money to friend) or Zelle janicezhang807@gmail.com. When you make the payment, please add your order number, name, email address, and shipping address.
Thank you!
bill
via paypal the friend option isn't available. perhaps you have a business account? seems like paypal made the change this year.
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Can you still order?
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Hey Bill.
Tried to send $ via PP, couldn't do Friends and Family. The email for Zelle was not recognized. Please advise.
How much does PP charge? I can send the PP charge in addition to tree $.
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Hey Bill.
Tried to send $ via PP, couldn't do Friends and Family. The email for Zelle was not recognized. Please advise.
How much does PP charge? I can send the PP charge in addition to tree $.
Zelle to biaozhang@hotmail.com, same as payPal is also fine.
Paypal normally charges 5% if it is not for friend option. In case of refund, I have to pay another 5%, that why I prefer the payment via zelle.
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Can you still order?
Yes, please let me know the qty and varieties, I can add it for you.
Thanks bill
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Folks,
We have finalized the price with exporter. This time the price is $50 each for female or male trees. I am starting to take payment. As we did as previous time, the payment method can be via payPal: biaozhang@hotmail.com ( please use the option sending money to friend) or Zelle janicezhang807@gmail.com. When you make the payment, please add your order number, name, email address, and shipping address.
Thank you!
bill
via paypal the friend option isn't available. perhaps you have a business account? seems like paypal made the change this year.
OK, possible make the payment via zelle to biaozhang@hotmail.com? if you have zelle account.
Thanks, bill
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Can you still order?
Yes, please let me know the qty and varieties, I can add it for you.
Thanks bill
Is there a minimum quantity? I probably just want 3 trees
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Folks,
We have finalized the price with exporter. This time the price is $50 each for female or male trees. I am starting to take payment. As we did as previous time, the payment method can be via payPal: biaozhang@hotmail.com ( please use the option sending money to friend) or Zelle janicezhang807@gmail.com. When you make the payment, please add your order number, name, email address, and shipping address.
Thank you!
bill
via paypal the friend option isn't available. perhaps you have a business account? seems like paypal made the change this year.
OK, possible make the payment via zelle to biaozhang@hotmail.com? if you have zelle account.
Thanks, bill
Zelle did not recognize either email, and would not let me enter your emails to send payment. Any other options? Or, just tell me how much to add (percentage) to the payment and will send via PP. Thx
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Folks,
We have finalized the price with exporter. This time the price is $50 each for female or male trees. I am starting to take payment. As we did as previous time, the payment method can be via payPal: biaozhang@hotmail.com ( please use the option sending money to friend) or Zelle janicezhang807@gmail.com. When you make the payment, please add your order number, name, email address, and shipping address.
Thank you!
bill
via paypal the friend option isn't available. perhaps you have a business account? seems like paypal made the change this year.
OK, possible make the payment via zelle to biaozhang@hotmail.com? if you have zelle account.
Thanks, bill
Zelle did not recognize either email, and would not let me enter your emails to send payment. Any other options? Or, just tell me how much to add (percentage) to the payment and will send via PP. Thx
Looks like you are having issue with Zelle. I just tried to janicezhang807@gmail.com, it was a success. you can add 5% fee
if you use PayPal.
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I like to order 2 Dongkui and 2 crystal trees
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I like to order 2 Dongkui and 2 crystal trees
added in the list. Thank you!
bill
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I was able to pay successfully through Zelle. Does $50 include the shipping for out of state?
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Hi Bill, I paid you yesterday.
there is no send to friends option on my side.
please confirm if you have received it.
Thank you!
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Payment sent =)
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I was able to pay successfully through Zelle. Does $50 include the shipping for out of state?
Thanks, shipping fee will be based on the real USPS priority mail shipping cost, and to be paid when I ship or after.
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Hi Bill, I paid you yesterday.
there is no send to friends option on my side.
please confirm if you have received it.
Thank you!
Thank you! I will check.
bill
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Payment sent =)
Thank you!
bill
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Sent payment for order#65
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Hi Bill, I paid you yesterday.
there is no send to friends option on my side.
please confirm if you have received it.
Thank you!
Mei, thank you for your payment. Can you please confirm the varieties I put for 16 trees in the worksheet?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
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Hi Bill, I paid you yesterday.
there is no send to friends option on my side.
please confirm if you have received it.
Thank you!
Mei, thank you for your payment. Can you please confirm the varieties I put for 16 trees in the worksheet?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RHfBT0S3dLXkAVh-DQVtgmTQDoUpOiYM2oKNzjPYb8o/edit?usp=sharing
That’s correct, thank you bill
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Payment sent for order #10
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Hi Bill,
If it's not too late. Please add me to the order. Thank you
1 Biqi female
1 Biqi male
1 Crystal female
1 Late Growing female
1 Dongkui female
1 Dongkui male
1 Black Crystal female
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Hi Bill,
If it's not too late. Please add me to the order. Thank you
1 Biqi female
1 Biqi male
1 Crystal female
1 Late Growing female
1 Dongkui female
1 Dongkui male
1 Black Crystal female
Sure, perfect timing, not late at all. Added in the order list.
Thank you.
bill
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Hi Bill,
Payment sent via PayPal for order #67
Thanks!
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Hi Bill,
Payment sent via PayPal for my 5 female DongKui YangMei.
Thanks,
Al
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Hi Bill,
Payment sent via PayPal for my 5 female DongKui YangMei.
Thanks,
Al
Than you!
Bill
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Hi Bill,
Payment sent via PayPal for order #67
Thanks!
Thank you
Bill
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Order #32-payment sent
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Payment sent. #26 Please let me know when it ready for pick up. Thanks.
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Hi Bill,
I order 5 trees. What is the total for paypal? Thanks
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Hi Bill,
I order 5 trees. What is the total for paypal? Thanks
$250 to PayPal janicezhang807@gmail.com with option: send money to friend.
Thank you!
Bill
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Payment sent. #26 Please let me know when it ready for pick up. Thanks.
Thank you! Payment confirmed. I will keep everyone updated for each status change including the payment, shipping from exporter, inspection, and pickup/mailing.
Regards,
Bill
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Bill,
I have sent Zelle payment. Order #39 for 4 trees. Thanks
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Order #32-payment sent
Thank you, Payment was confirmed.
Best regards,
Bill
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Bill, I would like to order 2 Biqi (female) and 3 Dong Kui. I have also emailed you. I am sending money via PayPal now.
Thanks as always for being so crazy!
Best, Ronni
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Bill,
What's my total? Is it on the sheet? Do we already have a shipping timeline?
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Bill,
What's my total? Is it on the sheet? Do we already have a shipping timeline?
Your total is 14, please let me know the varieties.
Thank you,
Bill
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Bill, I would like to order 2 Biqi (female) and 3 Dong Kui. I have also emailed you. I am sending money via PayPal now.
Thanks as always for being so crazy!
Best, Ronni
Thank you!
Bill
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Just sent via paypal for order #46
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May I confirm local pickup is an option for bay area residents? Will send payment once confirmed. Thanks.
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May I confirm local pickup is an option for bay area residents? Will send payment once confirmed. Thanks.
Yes, Bay Area local pickup will be in Campbell, Ca 95008, as we did in the past two rounds.
Thank you, bill
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May I confirm local pickup is an option for bay area residents? Will send payment once confirmed. Thanks.
Yes, Bay Area local pickup will be in Campbell, Ca 95008, as we did in the past two rounds.
Thank you, bill
Cool, order #43 paid through Zelle.
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May I confirm local pickup is an option for bay area residents? Will send payment once confirmed. Thanks.
Yes, Bay Area local pickup will be in Campbell, Ca 95008, as we did in the past two rounds.
Thank you, bill
Cool, order #43 paid through Zelle.
Thank you!
bill
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Payment sent for order #48 via PayPal.
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Payment sent for order #48 via PayPal.
Thank you,
bill
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When is the absolute last day to pay for your order?
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Hello, line 21 here. Do you want payment for shipment at this time too ? 6 trees or just the trees for now?
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Hi
Is it too late for me to add?
I would like to order
1 Dingkui Male
1 Dongkui Female
1 Late grower Female
Is it enough to pollinate?
I am in southeast North Carolina zone 8a
Thanks!
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Bill,
What's my total? Is it on the sheet? Do we already have a shipping timeline?
Your total is 14, please let me know the varieties.
Thank you,
Bill
Ok so that would be 2 female of each variety, correct? 16 times $50=$700. 1 male BQ 1 male LG. $800 total. I need a time schedule. I will be in out of the country soon.
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Bill,
What's my total? Is it on the sheet? Do we already have a shipping timeline?
Your total is 14, please let me know the varieties.
Thank you,
Bill
Ok so that would be 2 female of each variety, correct? 16 times $50=$700. 1 male BQ 1 male LG. $800 total. I need a time schedule. I will be in out of the country soon.
16*50( 7 female*2+ 2 male) =$800. We are aiming to get the trees in Mid-Late January. Depends how fast all the payments of orders in the group can be made.
Regards,
bill
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Hello, line 21 here. Do you want payment for shipment at this time too ? 6 trees or just the trees for now?
Fee for the shipping can be made late based on the true cost of USPS priority.
Regards,
bill
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Hi
Is it too late for me to add?
I would like to order
1 Dingkui Male
1 Dongkui Female
1 Late grower Female
Is it enough to pollinate?
I am in southeast North Carolina zone 8a
Thanks!
you can add 1 more female tree to make the total # to 4.
Regards,
bill
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When is the absolute last day to pay for your order?
We will send the order with total amount of trees to the exporter after all the payments are made from the group.
Regards,
bill
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Hello, line 21 here. Do you want payment for shipment at this time too ? 6 trees or just the trees for now?
Fee for the shipping can be made late based on the true cost of USPS priority.
Regards,
bill
Order 21 - Payment sent !
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Hello, line 21 here. Do you want payment for shipment at this time too ? 6 trees or just the trees for now?
Fee for the shipping can be made late based on the true cost of USPS priority.
Regards,
bill
Order 21 - Payment sent !
Thank you!
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Hunter Sims
863-307-9997
1 wusu (female)
1 black crystal (female)
1 an hai (female)
1 LG (male)
1 DK (male)
Paid! Cheers, Thank you endlessly Bill
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Hunter Sims
863-307-9997
1 wusu (female)
1 black crystal (female)
1 an hai (female)
1 LG (male)
1 DK (male)
Paid! Cheers, Thank you endlessly Bill
Thank you, payment was confirmed.
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Bill,
sent you a pm about ordering 3 wusu females and 2 wusu males.
I'll send payment asap once confirmed.
Thank you again!
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Bill,
sent you a pm about ordering 3 wusu females and 2 wusu males.
I'll send payment asap once confirmed.
Thank you again!
replied to your message.
Thanks, bill
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payment sent, No. 50, 9 trees.
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payment sent, No. 50, 9 trees.
Awesome, thank you!
bill
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Hello Bill! Any Updates on when you plan to place the order? Cheers!
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Hello Bill! Any Updates on when you plan to place the order? Cheers!
Lets wait for about a week and get more payments from buyers.
Thanks, bill
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Merry Christmas to all!
I am planning to send the finalized order number of trees to exporter next Monday.
Regards,
bill
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What Monday is next Monday? Do you mean Dec 26, 2022?
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What Monday is next Monday? Do you mean Dec 26, 2022?
Yes, 12/26/2022.
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Let’s goooo!
To recipients of trees, make sure to prepare to raise them. Bare root trees need a lot of care until the harden off. Speaking from experience👍.
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Let’s goooo!
To recipients of trees, make sure to prepare to raise them. Bare root trees need a lot of care until the harden off. Speaking from experience👍.
Do you have any tips? I am planning to wrap them in buddytape (grafting tape) to help seal any moisture inside and keep them in the shaded greenhouse with very well draining soil medium
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Let’s goooo!
To recipients of trees, make sure to prepare to raise them. Bare root trees need a lot of care until the harden off. Speaking from experience👍.
Do you have any tips? I am planning to wrap them in buddytape (grafting tape) to help seal any moisture inside and keep them in the shaded greenhouse with very well draining soil medium
Yes,
make sure to keep them humid...So either wrap in parafilm or buddytape (wish I bought some buddytape after hearing why it's superior to parafilm) or keep them in a tent with humidifier or similar setup. For out of state people getting them shipped it is important to be ready cause shipping will stress tree even more. Once arrived I soaked mine in plain water and potted them up. Don't overwater; it will cause root rot. Once established these are super easy to grow. Please quarantine and treat for RKN too (monterey nematode control as recommended by Simon). Don't want to spread them to your garden. Last time lots of people failed to recognize that - just cause they passed inspections doesn't mean they are pest free. RKN is already prevelant here so that's why they were allowed in. I treated mine and they were free and went into the ground a few months later. This order I'm not sure how the trees will look, but always better to be safe than sorry.
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Let’s goooo!
To recipients of trees, make sure to prepare to raise them. Bare root trees need a lot of care until the harden off. Speaking from experience👍.
Do you have any tips? I am planning to wrap them in buddytape (grafting tape) to help seal any moisture inside and keep them in the shaded greenhouse with very well draining soil medium
Yes,
make sure to keep them humid...So either wrap in parafilm or buddytape (wish I bought some buddytape after hearing why it's superior to parafilm) or keep them in a tent with humidifier or similar setup. For out of state people getting them shipped it is important to be ready cause shipping will stress tree even more. Once arrived I soaked mine in plain water and potted them up. Don't overwater; it will cause root rot. Once established these are super easy to grow. Please quarantine and treat for RKN too (monterey nematode control as recommended by Simon). Don't want to spread them to your garden. Last time lots of people failed to recognize that - just cause they passed inspections doesn't mean they are pest free. RKN is already prevelant here so that's why they were allowed in. I treated mine and they were free and went into the ground a few months later. This order I'm not sure how the trees will look, but always better to be safe than sorry.
Thanks for the tips, how long would you recommend soaking them in water prior to planting for? Also which treatment do you recommend for RKN nematodes? Thanks, You're the best for these tips! I'm sure lots will benefit from reading this.
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Let’s goooo!
To recipients of trees, make sure to prepare to raise them. Bare root trees need a lot of care until the harden off. Speaking from experience👍.
Do you have any tips? I am planning to wrap them in buddytape (grafting tape) to help seal any moisture inside and keep them in the shaded greenhouse with very well draining soil medium
Yes,
make sure to keep them humid...So either wrap in parafilm or buddytape (wish I bought some buddytape after hearing why it's superior to parafilm) or keep them in a tent with humidifier or similar setup. For out of state people getting them shipped it is important to be ready cause shipping will stress tree even more. Once arrived I soaked mine in plain water and potted them up. Don't overwater; it will cause root rot. Once established these are super easy to grow. Please quarantine and treat for RKN too (monterey nematode control as recommended by Simon). Don't want to spread them to your garden. Last time lots of people failed to recognize that - just cause they passed inspections doesn't mean they are pest free. RKN is already prevelant here so that's why they were allowed in. I treated mine and they were free and went into the ground a few months later. This order I'm not sure how the trees will look, but always better to be safe than sorry.
Thanks for the tips, how long would you recommend soaking them in water prior to planting for? Also which treatment do you recommend for RKN nematodes? Thanks, You're the best for these tips! I'm sure lots will benefit from reading this.
I use Monterey Nematode Conrtrol.
I just soaked them for like 30 mins while I was preparing the soil to plant Edit: some people soaked with other stuff like superthrive?, but tbh I don't know if it helps or not.
Also,
I'm not an expert either. There are many others who know way more than I
Hope that helps!
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Bill, just realized I never put Location on the Google Doc so I tried to add my zip today in the Location column but it somehow ended up in the Total Trees column (yes, I am Google Docs challenged). Anyhow, I am LAX area, 90402 and as I mentioned in my email, if Joe K can't be the collection point this year, I am certainly willing to do it.
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Bill, just realized I never put Location on the Google Doc so I tried to add my zip today in the Location column but it somehow ended up in the Total Trees column (yes, I am Google Docs challenged). Anyhow, I am LAX area, 90402 and as I mentioned in my email, if Joe K can't be the collection point this year, I am certainly willing to do it.
Sure, thank you!
Bill
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Folks,
The order has been sent to the exporter with the number of 800 trees.
This is probably the last order of Yangmei trees I do for the community. We are aiming to get our trees in mid-January, 2023.
Thank you all for the support and happy new year!
Bill
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Folks,
The order has been sent to the exporter with the number of 800 trees.
This is probably the last order of Yangmei trees I do for the community. We are aiming to get our trees in mid-January, 2023.
Thank you all for the support and happy new year!
Bill
Hi Bill,
Thank you very much for the hard work and time.....
Al
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Folks,
The order has been sent to the exporter with the number of 800 trees.
This is probably the last order of Yangmei trees I do for the community. We are aiming to get our trees in mid-January, 2023.
Thank you all for the support and happy new year!
Bill
Hats off for organizing this again. Can't thank you enough for the selfless hours you have put in.
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Mid January would be great! Keep us updated. Hopefully we will all have great amounts of success this round. Thank You, Bill. Bill, If you decide that you do not want to lead the group buys anymore would you be willing to pass on the info to someone else in the forum to take up the effort for the community. I personally would love to be apart of group buy for some cultivars or longan or lychee that are not easily available in the US but may be available if suitable export quantities are ordered. Once again, Thank You.
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Want to add to the outpoouring of gratitude. This has truly been above and beyond. Thanks so much, Bill
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Thank you Bill, you truly rock! (guitar solo)
Can only imagine how much time and stress is involved in these endeavors, and then dealing with questions and even complaints. Much gratitude for helping so many of us add yangmei to our gardens and orchards.
Ready for grafting!!
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Happy new years everyone!
I'm in Santa Cruz, also interested in Yangmei, is there still time to sign up?
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roblack, ronke47, CarolinaZone, hammer524, pinkturtle, and others,
Thank you all for the warm words.
Happy new year!
bill
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Happy new years everyone!
I'm in Santa Cruz, also interested in Yangmei, is there still time to sign up?
Yes, budutukaco,
You can still add your order. This time I added additional 100-150 trees as backup.
Please let me know the varieties and total qty.
Regards and happy new year!
bill
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Happy New Years! Everyone give Bill a special thanks for organizing this effort, Bill whats the plan when the trees arrive? Do we reach out to you to send shipping payment when you have the specific prices on that or will you send us an invoice? Cheers.
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Happy New Years! Everyone give Bill a special thanks for organizing this effort, Bill whats the plan when the trees arrive? Do we reach out to you to send shipping payment when you have the specific prices on that or will you send us an invoice? Cheers.
Yes, local pick up for bay area and Socal folks. Ideally one person can come to bay area to pick up the trees for all SoCal folks as we did in the previous two rounds. For folks in other areas, I will do USPS priority shipping , the shipping cost will be based on the actual charge in the post office.
Regards,
bill
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Happy New Years! Everyone give Bill a special thanks for organizing this effort, Bill whats the plan when the trees arrive? Do we reach out to you to send shipping payment when you have the specific prices on that or will you send us an invoice? Cheers.
Yes, local pick up for bay area and Socal folks. Ideally one person can come to bay area to pick up the trees for all SoCal folks as we did in the previous two rounds. For folks in other areas, I will do USPS priority shipping , the shipping cost will be based on the actual charge in the post office.
Bill, I would recommend using a website called PirateShip you are able to get around 50% off shipping costs and easily print pre paid labels, Ive been using it (for free) and saving a lot of money. Its a really good platform to compare shipping costs and generally ive found UPS is half the price of USPS on the size of larger boxes. Its worth taking a peek at! Cheers
bill
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So, sorry I have not been on the forum in over a month. I seemed to have missed the payment date, but you put in for extras? Yes?
I would like to get the 4 I put on the sheet, , or at this point whatever females you have left. Should I send the money via a paypal now for 4?
order # 60: 3 female, 1 male, Crystal, DK, Late growing, An Hai
Thanks
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So, sorry I have not been on the forum in over a month. I seemed to have missed the payment date, but you put in for extras? Yes?
I would like to get the 4 I put on the sheet, , or at this point whatever females you have left. Should I send the money via a paypal now for 4?
order # 60: 3 female, 1 male, Crystal, DK, Late growing, An Hai
Thanks
Yes, replied in email.
Thanks, bill
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Hi
Can we still order?
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Hi
Can we still order?
Yes, you can. Please let me know the qty and varieties.
Regards,
bill
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1 female Black Crystal, 1 female Donkui, 1 female An Hai
1 male (I don't know which male would fit the best)
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Hi Bill
Can you please add my orders to the list?
Thanks
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Folks,
The exporter has booked the flight for trees.
XMN CX3259 1/8/2023 02:40 PM -->1/8/2023 HKG 04:00 PM
HKG CX872 1/9/2023 00:55 AM --> 1/8/2023 SFO 20:35 PM.
They are still waiting for the Phyto document's approval, which is likely to come out today or tomorrow.
We need to start planning our logistics in the USA.
Please send me the shipping address and phone number to biaozhang@hotmail.com if it is not local pick up.
I am expecting one person from Socal can come to the bay area to pick up the trees for Socal folks. We can pay the gas
and time effort.
Regards,
bill
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Hi Bill
Have you added my trees? Can you please reply if I am getting the trees? How can I pay?
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Folks,
The exporter has book the flight for trees.
XMN CX3259 1/8/2023 02:40 PM -->1/8/2023 HKG 04:00 PM
HKG CX872 1/9/2023 00:55 AM --> 1/8/2023 SFO 20:35 PM.
They are still waiting for the Phyto document's approval, which is likely to come out today or tomorrow.
We need to start planning our logistics in the USA.
Please send me the shipping address and phone number to biaozhang@hotmail.com if it is not local pick up.
I am expecting one person from Socal can come to the bay area to pick up the trees for Socal folks. We can pay the gas
and time effort.
Regards,
bill
Email Sent with Shipping information, I added my shipping info to the google spreadsheet as well on the far right to my name (thesimsdude) Thanks Bill!
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Payment sent.
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Payment sent.
Thanks, confirmed.
Bill
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Folks,
One of my friends in the bay area likes to trade some of her Yangmei seedling she ordered with Logan, Lychee, or Atemoya trees.
If you are interested, please let me know.
Regards,
bill
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Just a few updates.
1. For Solcal local pickup, I plan to use package shipping service below.
https://www.xedohoang.com/index.php/en/bus-schedules/departing-from-northern-california
we will have two pickup locations: LA and San Diego.
The bus stop in LA is at 1231 North Spring Street, LA, CA, LA POC picks up the trees at around 2:00PM,
in San Diego it is located at 9326 Mira Mesa Blvd, San Diego, CA, LA POC picks up the trees at around 5:00PM
I will prepare two boxes( or more depends on the size), one for LA, and another one for San Diego for local POC pick up and all buyers reach to them as we did last time.
Jozeph volunteers to be the San Diego POC, and Ronni volunteers to be LA POC. Thank Jozeph and Ronni for the great support.
2. The Phyto document approval has not come out yet due to the pandemic situation in China,
if the exporter does not receive that on Saturday next day, the shipping might be delayed to sometime next week. They have not started pulling up trees from the farm yet, which is good for us.
I went to check out the bus stop in San Jose this morning. The bus departs at 8:30 am and heads down to LA,
San Diego every day .
It appears to be a reliable service for passengers and package shipping as Greyhound does( Greyhound has stopped package shipping services recently). See the picture attached below.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XXkDqrc3/Image-4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXkDqrc3)
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For the LA Area folks, I am in Santa Monica and will be picking up the trees when they arrive downtown at 2 pm-ish and heading West. Guided by the exemplary job Joe K did last time round, I will be putting them in water immediately so if you think you won't be able to get to me within 24 hours, please let me know (crfgwla at gmail) and we will figure out how best to keep your trees safe. Last buy I used an aquarium pump to aerate the water a la Ingham compost tea, but you might have better ideas. I do have the Monterey nematode control but will not treat all the trees unless everyone agrees.
Bill, if you could get me a list of buyers and their specific purchases (variety and number) that would be great.
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For the LA Area folks, I am in Santa Monica and will be picking up the trees when they arrive downtown at 2 pm-ish and heading West. Guided by the exemplary job Joe K did last time round, I will be putting them in water immediately so if you think you won't be able to get to me within 24 hours, please let me know (crfgwla at gmail) and we will figure out how best to keep your trees safe. Last buy I used an aquarium pump to aerate the water a la Ingham compost tea, but you might have better ideas. I do have the Monterey nematode control but will not treat all the trees unless everyone agrees.
Bill, if you could get me a list of buyers and their specific purchases (variety and number) that would be great.
I will.
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Hi, newbie missed the order deadline. If new order in 2023 by any chance? Thanks !
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Hi, newbie missed the order deadline. If new order in 2023 by any chance? Thanks !
Hi we booked about 150 extra, I can still add your order. We do not have plan to do in another round in 2013.
Please let me know the qty and which varieties you like to add.
Thanks, bill
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Folks,
Due to the delay of Phyto doc approval, the flight has to be booked again.
Any update, I will post it here.
Have a nice weekend.
bill
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New flight was booked.
XMN --> HKG CX979 Departure 1/13 20:35 PM, Arrival 1/13 23:00 PM
HKG --> SFO CX892 Departure 1/14 20:00 PM, Arrival 1/14 15:55 PM
Hopefully the Phyto doc can get approval this week. 1/22 is Chinese new year.
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New flight was booked.
XMN --> HKG CX979 Departure 1/13 20:35 PM, Arrival 1/13 23:00 PM
HKG --> SFO CX892 Departure 1/14 20:00 PM, Arrival 1/14 15:55 PM
Hopefully the Phyto doc can get approval this week. 1/22 is Chinese new year.
Bill - if the shipment arrives SFO on the Saturday pm, when would you expect USDA to perform the inspection? Note that 1/16 Monday is a holiday.
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I will check with the exporter to see if they can change the flight date to 1/16.
By the way, the phyto doc was approved.
Thanks, bill
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Great news about the phyto! And yes, I agree it would probably make more sense for the scions not to sit at SFO over the long weekend.
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Based on our request, the exporter has changed the flight departure date.
The departure time bound for the first stop is on the date 1/15, the date and time for the second stop(SFO) is to be confirmed.
Thanks, bill
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Bill can you confirm that you received my payment.
Thanks!!
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General question on Yangmei:
I ordered a An Hui, Late Growing and Crystal. Is this a good selection for taste and spaced out ripening?
Thanks!
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General question on Yangmei:
I ordered a An Hui, Late Growing and Crystal. Is this a good selection for taste and spaced out ripening?
Thanks!
Payment was received. Thank you!
Crystal is white, sour and sweet. Here is the picture I took last summer from one of my friends' place.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2LWx441m/thumbnail-IMG-3070.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2LWx441m)
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Folks,
Flights have been been finalized.
XMN --> HKG CX3259 Departure 1/15 2:40 PM, Arrival 1/15 4:00 PM
HKG --> SFO CX872 Departure 1/16 00:55 PM, Arrival 1/15 20:55 PM
I will ask custom broker to pickup the trees and drop them in USDA inspection in South San Francisco on 1/17 morning.
Per the contact of the exporting company, the variety of Black Crystal is small, I will add some other varieties as a make up in shipping or local pickup.
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For the tree pickup in the San Diego area, here is our plan.
There are four orders in the San Diego region.
32 Kankan (20 trees**) 20
36 ManVFruit ( Jozeph) 9
44 ph8542 ** 4
50 Ken Bee(*) 12
9326 Mira Mesa Blvd, San Diego, CA, Jozeph will pick up the trees at around 5:00PM
Everyone is welcome to directly go over the place and get the trees from him.
Or afterwards, get the trees from Joseph's place, depends on everyone's location.
please check with Jozeph and let him know about your plan.
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For the LA local pick, here is the order list.
order # name qty
18 Okvid 5
31 Epiphyte 16
33 shmojojojo 10
37 pinkturtle 5
39 Pasca 4
46 foreveryoung 5
53 Kaz 15
65 nullzero 4
67 fruit4me 8
89 wanxu 2 ( to be picked up by 67 fruit4me)
87 YanXing 6 ( to be picked up by 67 fruit4me)
69 Pavel 12
70 ronke475 7
74 Nate 7
Qty is not final yet, the latest number will be updated.
1231 North Spring Street, LA, CA, Ronni(ronke475) will pick up the trees at around 2:00PM
Everyone is welcome to directly go over the place and get the trees from him.
Or afterwards, get the trees from Ronne's place in Santa Monica, depends on everyone's location.
please check with Ronne and let him know about your plan. Or one POC from east LA to get all the trees?
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For the folks who plan to pick up the trees in the bay area, I will announce the address and date, time when the trees are released from USDA inspection.
For the folks who requested shipping, I plan to ship all the packages early in the morning with USPS priority mail service following the date when the trees are released.
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Hi Ronni and Bill,
I can pick up my in Chinatown, Spring st.
Please let me know if there any changes.
Thanks,
Al
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Al, could I get an email address for you so I can alert you to the game plan going forward? You can send it to crfgwla at gmail.com. A cell number would also be helpful, for last minute changes.
At this point, I am waiting to hear from Bill as to whether the trees will be bunched by buyer or variety. If by variety, it is going to be really hard to distribute the trees out of 2 boxes of 90 or so while standing on a street corner in downtown LA, since my priority is keeping the roots intact and moist for everyone.
Where will you be coming from? If there are enough of you coming from the east side (SGV, Pasadena, etc) it might be possible for Bill to divide the trees into an East side and a West side box and only one of you would have to venture into the wilds of DTLA. Does that make sense?
Ronni
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Hi Ronni and Bill,
I can pick up my in Chinatown, Spring st.
Please let me know if there any changes.
Thanks,
Al
HI AI, agree with Ronne. I can prepare your trees in a separate bag within the box.
Anybody likes to be the POC of LA east? I can sort out the trees for the folks living in LA east if you have a request.
All the remaining will go to Ronni's place.
Thanks, bill
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Hello, I would be interested in getting 100 or so plants if you still have some available
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I would like to get a female DK and a BiQi if possible in addition to my first order.
Thanks.
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also, if you need any help with packing or distribution, (in the Bay Area) let me know. And thanks for all your work!!
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Hi Ronni and Bill,
I can pick up my in Chinatown, Spring st.
Please let me know if there any changes.
Thanks,
Al
HI AI, agree with Ronne. I can prepare your trees in a separate bag within the box.
Anybody likes to be the POC of LA east? I can sort out the trees for the folks living in LA east if you have a request.
All the remaining will go to Ronni's place.
Thanks, bill
Thanks Bill.
Hi Ronni,
I PMed you my cel number, please let me know if you didn't received it.
Thanks,
Al
Th
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Hello, I would be interested in getting 100 or so plants if you still have some available
Murray,
I replied in message. Please check.
Thanks, bill
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I would like to get a female DK and a BiQi if possible in addition to my first order.
Thanks.
Yes, it is still possible. Payment can be made as you did before. I will update the change in the order list.
Regards,
bill
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also, if you need any help with packing or distribution, (in the Bay Area) let me know. And thanks for all your work!!
Sure, that will be great! I need some help probably in USDA inspection or packing from you. Please check the message for the details or let me know your contact info in email to biaozhang@hotmail.com.
Regards,
bill
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Happy to help in the Bay Area as well bill-
I will bring a roll of parafilm to wrap trees for people who want to do that as well
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I'd prefer to pick up from Spring St. if possible. I'm in West Covina and can hold some trees to save someone a trip to Santa Monica.
Bill, I made a slight change to my order on the spreadsheet. I also added a tree and sent you $50 on paypal.
Thanks again Bill, Ronni and Jozeph for your time and effort!
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I'd prefer to pick up from Spring St. if possible. I'm in West Covina and can hold some trees to save someone a trip to Santa Monica.
Bill, I made a slight change to my order on the spreadsheet. I also added a tree and sent you $50 on paypal.
Thanks again Bill, Ronni and Jozeph for your time and effort!
Shaun,
That's great. I will prepare two boxes for LA folks, one for LA East, and another one for Santa Monica, Malibu, etc area.
Right now the following folks have decided to pick up from your place.
33 shmojojojo (youself)
37 pinkturtle
67 fruit4me
89 wanxu29
87 YanXing
46 foreveryoung
31 Epiphyte
If anybody in LA likes to have Shaun( in West Covina) to hold the trees for you, please let me and Shaun know, so I can prepare for it.
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Happy to help in the Bay Area as well bill-
I will bring a roll of parafilm to wrap trees for people who want to do that as well
Awesome, Daniel! It will be great if you can come over to Campbell and help us do some packaging and wrapping for other folks.
Thank,
bill
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Hi Bill,
I'm in West Covina area too.
46 foreveryoung 5
Frank
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ok, Right now the following LA folks have decided to pick up from Shaun's place in West Covina.
33 shmojojojo (Shaun)
37 pinkturtle
67 fruit4me
89 wanxu29
87 YanXing
46 foreveryoung
31 Epiphyte
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This is looking much more manageable and it seems as if East and West will be evenly divided.. So at this point, the folks I have in the West Box are:
Okvid
Pasca
Kaz
NullZero
Pavel
me
Nate
I have heard from some of you but would Okvid, Pasca, Pavel and Nate please either PM me contact info or write to me crfgwla at gmail.com so we can coordinate and I can alert you when the trees are actually in Santa Monica. And of course, if you opt for the East Box, please let Shaun and Bill know.
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ok, Right now the following LA folks have decided to pick up from Shaun's place in West Covina.
33 shmojojojo (Shaun)
37 pinkturtle
67 fruit4me
89 wanxu29
87 YanXing
46 foreveryoung
31 Epiphyte
Okay, sounds good. Most everyone has contacted me already. If not, PM for my address. I'm working from home, so my hours are pretty flexible for pickup. Hopefully everyone can pickup same day.
Also, I plan on keeping the bareroot trees in a bucket of collected rainwater with a bag over them and a rope tied around the bucket to seal them in. I'll put them in my greenhouse for extra protection. Is this okay with everyone or is there a better way to store these trees?
EDIT: Since most people are picking up same day, maybe it's best to leave the trees in their original bags until they're picked up. If you do want me to keep the roots in a bucket of rain water, or any other request, feel free to let me know. Also, I'm near a Home Depot if you would prefer to pick up in a public place.
Shaun
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For the tree pickup in the San Diego area, here is our plan.
There are four orders in the San Diego region.
32 Kankan (20 trees**) 20
36 ManVFruit ( Jozeph) 9
44 ph8542 ** 4
50 Ken Bee(*) 12
9326 Mira Mesa Blvd, San Diego, CA, Jozeph will pick up the trees at around 5:00PM
Everyone is welcome to directly go over the place and get the trees from him.
Or afterwards, get the trees from Joseph's place, depends on everyone's location.
please check with Jozeph and let him know about your plan.
Thank you Bill. Whos address is this (9326 Mira Mesa Blvd)? Id like to PM them my cell and get theres so we can coordinate. Thanks again for all your efforts!
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For the tree pickup in the San Diego area, here is our plan.
There are four orders in the San Diego region.
32 Kankan (20 trees**) 20
36 ManVFruit ( Jozeph) 9
44 ph8542 ** 4
50 Ken Bee(*) 12
9326 Mira Mesa Blvd, San Diego, CA, Jozeph will pick up the trees at around 5:00PM
Everyone is welcome to directly go over the place and get the trees from him.
Or afterwards, get the trees from Joseph's place, depends on everyone's location.
please check with Jozeph and let him know about your plan.
Thank you Bill. Whos address is this (9326 Mira Mesa Blvd)? Id like to PM them my cell and get theres so we can coordinate. Thanks again for all your efforts!
Kankan,
This is the address of Lucky Seafood, San Diego, the last stop of bus route.
https://www.xedohoang.com/index.php/en/bus-schedules/departing-from-northern-california
If you can make it to wait there around 5PM, you can get your trees from ManVFruit ( Jozeph), he will get the trees
from the bus driver.
Please send PM to him.
Thanks, bill
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Hi PASCA( order# 39) PHAM, HUYEN,
Sorry, I sent you message but didn't get response from you. Please let us know you like to pick up your trees from Santa Monica Ronnie's place or from West Covina Shaun's place.
Thanks, bill
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Folks,
Here is the airway bill number for tracking the shipment status.
https://www.cathaypacificcargo.com/ManageYourShipment/TrackYourShipment/tabid/108/SingleAWBNo/160-47853643/language/en-US/Default.aspx
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Two hundred kgs! That's a lot of trees. Ironically they're taking the exact same flight as my son and his family when they come to visit 12 days from now.
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I edited my last post, but not sure if people will see it, so I'm posting here.
I planned on putting the trees in a bucket of rain water for storing, but since most people are picking up same day, maybe it's best to leave the trees in their original bags until they're picked up. If you do want me to keep the roots in water, or any other request, feel free to let me know. Also, I'm near a Home Depot if you would prefer to pick up in a public place.
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I edited my last post, but not sure if people will see it, so I'm posting here.
I planned on putting the trees in a bucket of rain water for storing, but since most people are picking up same day, maybe it's best to leave the trees in their original bags until they're picked up. If you do want me to keep the roots in water, or any other request, feel free to let me know. Also, I'm near a Home Depot if you would prefer to pick up in a public place.
Thank you so much, Shaun.
bill
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Trees landed in SFO.
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Trees landed in SFO.
Great news!
Thank you too, Bill. Glad to help.
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Hi Bill. Is it possible to order trees from the extras you have remaining? I would like the following:
WuSu - 2
Biqi - 2
Crystal - 2
Late Growing - 2
Dongkui - 2
Black Crystal - 2
An Hai - 2
DK Male - 3
I've also sent an email to your hotmail. Thanks.
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Good morning Bill,
I will go the Chinatown Spring training station to pick up my order. Please pack them separately.
Do you have more DongKui available? I would like to get 2 more of it.
Thanks,
Al
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Hi Bill. Is it possible to order trees from the extras you have remaining? I would like the following:
WuSu - 2
Biqi - 2
Crystal - 2
Late Growing - 2
Dongkui - 2
Black Crystal - 2
An Hai - 2
DK Male - 3
I've also sent an email to your hotmail. Thanks.
HI Carl,
Replied in email.
Thanks, bill
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Good morning Bill,
I will go the Chinatown Spring training station to pick up my order. Please pack them separately.
Do you have more DongKui available? I would like to get 2 more of it.
Thanks,
Al
Hi AI,
I will add your trees in a separate bag in the box for LA east folks, you get it from Shaun.
Trees are running very low, but I will make 2 DK available for you.
Regards,
bill
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Folks,
No more new big orders. Some trees are small per the exporter, I don't want to disappoint everyone, we may need to reserve some
for make up.
Black Crystal is not available. All others are running low.
Thanks, bill
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Hi Bill. Is it possible to order trees from the extras you have remaining? I would like the following:
WuSu - 2
Biqi - 2
Crystal - 2
Late Growing - 2
Dongkui - 2
Black Crystal - 2
An Hai - 2
DK Male - 3
I've also sent an email to your hotmail. Thanks.
HI Carl,
Replied in email.
Thanks, bill
Thanks Bill. Payment sent. Let me know when pickup is available.
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Folks,
We do not accept new orders.
Thanks, bill
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I can't wait!!!! ;D ;D ;D I was smart to order two of each. I would have been smarter to order 4. Wait ....smarter? ??? ??? Maybe obsessed 8)
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Hi Bill,
Let me know if you got the response to your PM and my address. Let me know what shipping is and I can get the money to you :) Appreciate what you've done.
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Hi Bill,
Let me know if you got the response to your PM and my address. Let me know what shipping is and I can get the money to you :) Appreciate what you've done.
Erik,
Yes, I have your address in WA.
Thanks, bill
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My custom broker received stamp from USDA around noon time, and he brought the trees in right after that.
Just checked with the broker regarding the status. Looks like the USDA will start the inspection tomorrow. I will keep everybody posted if I have any update.
Thanks, bill
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I would like to pick up my trees in West Covina if possible.
Thanks
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I sent email early in the morning to one of inspectors in USDA SFO and told her that if any assistance is needed in unwrapping the trees during the inspection , and received her reply "If we need anything else, we will contact you. "
Minutes ago just checked with my custom broker. They have not received any news from USDA yet.
Still waiting.
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I would like to pick up my trees in West Covina if possible.
Thanks
I will pack your trees in a separate bag in the box for LA east, you get the trees from Shaun when bus stops there.
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Just checked with my custom broker, he had not heard of anything yet from USDA about inspection result.
The inspection office closes at 4:30 PM.
So it will be sometimes tomorrow.
Thank you all for the patience.
bill
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I am in USDA with Pouya now. They are doing the inspection.
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Newbie here, what is the protocol for treatment and planting or potting these new babies? Nematode treatment seems to be in order right?
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Newbie here, what is the protocol for treatment and planting or potting these new babies? Nematode treatment seems to be in order right?
It is reasonable to assume there are nematodes and treating them isn’t too bad. Mine were infected from last order, but now they are super happy in ground. I used Monterey nematode control. Pot in well draining soil and keep in a shaded spot for recovery. Find a way to keep humidity up either through humidifier or wrapping trees with parafilm or buddy tape. Good luck!
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Trees were just released.
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Trees were just released.
Are the trees going to head on bus tonight or tomorrow to LA?
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Wahoo!
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This time trees are very clean, no nematodes and other pests were found by USDA.
I am heading back to home and will package the trees for folks.
Thanks, bill
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Thank you. A long couple of days for you.
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Yowza yowza! Great news Bill, thank you from all of us!!
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This time trees are very clean, no nematodes and other pests were found by USDA.
I am heading back to home and will package the trees for folks.
Thanks, bill
This is great! Can local folks pick them up tonight?
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This time trees are very clean, no nematodes and other pests were found by USDA.
I am heading back to home and will package the trees for folks.
Thanks, bill
Great news! Thank you so much for what you've done Bill!
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Bay Area Local pickup time: today 1/19 7:30 pm-10:30 pm
Tomorrow 1/20 11:00 am - 7:30 pm
Saturday 1/21: 11:00 am - 5:00 pm
Address: removed.
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For the tree pickup in the San Diego area, here is our plan.
There are four orders in the San Diego region.
32 Kankan (20 trees**) 20
36 ManVFruit ( Jozeph) 9
44 ph8542 ** 4
50 Ken Bee(*) 12
9326 Mira Mesa Blvd, San Diego, CA, Jozeph will pick up the trees at around 5:00PM
Everyone is welcome to directly go over the place and get the trees from him.
Or afterwards, get the trees from Joseph's place, depends on everyone's location.
please check with Jozeph and let him know about your plan.
Hi Bill-Is this looking like tomorrow (Friday) For the above San Diego folks?
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Hi Bill,
Thank you very much for the time made it happen again.
Please let me know what is the schedule when them arrive in the training station in Chinatown.
Thanks,
Al
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Thanks Bill!
I still haven't heard back from Pasca. I sent you a PM regarding pickup. Please reply ASAP
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Do we set an appointment or just show up in the alloted time slot? I plan to pickup tomorrow at 11am. Thanks.
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LA also wondering whether the trees will make it onto the bus tomorrow or not until Saturday. Either way is fine, I just have to alert the gang.
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I commented on Wednesday and asked Bill to allow me to pick up trees in West Covina. He said that he would set my trees aside for that purpose.
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I commented on Wednesday and asked Bill to allow me to pick up trees in West Covina. He said that he would set my trees aside for that purpose.
Yes, you're picking up from me. I sent you a private message here and to your e-mail (from your profile link) with my address and contact information, but I didn't hear back from you. Please message me back, so I can give you my address and you can pick up your trees. Thanks.
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Hi Bill,
Do you have the ETA when the trees will be in Chinatown training station?
Thanks,
Al
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Everyone who will soon be getting their trees
I have placed an order on (all three?) of the last Yangmei buys and have always been appreciative of Bills efforts-
Last night I got to see in person all of the labor that goes into doing this for the forum- and we collectively owe him a great debt of gratitude-
Thank you so much bill for dedicating your time and effort to bringing these trees to the USA-
we will be telling stories of
Yangmei Bill for a long time
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Hi Bill,
Do you have the ETA when the trees will be in Chinatown training station?
Thanks,
Al
Sorry for the late response. I had busy schedule in the morning. First I loaded 5 boxes ( four for LA, one for San Diego)
LA boxes, 2 boxes are for Steve Murray, 1 for LA East, and the rest one is for Santa Monica Area.
The bus stop in LA china around 2:00 pm in the afternoon.
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Hi Bill,
Do you have the ETA when the trees will be in Chinatown training station?
Thanks,
Al
Sorry for the late response. I had busy schedule in the morning. First I loaded 5 boxes ( four for LA, one for San Diego)
LA boxes, 2 boxes are for Steve Murray, 1 for LA East, and the rest one is for Santa Monica Area.
Then shipped out some packages. After that, the bay area local picked up started.
The bus stop in LA china around 2:00 pm in the afternoon.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/wRMbSD1w/Image-10.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wRMbSD1w)
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There is another box to San Diego.
Thanks, Foks.
bill
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Thanks you very Bill, I am heading over to Chinatown now.
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On my way! I should be back home around 4pm. I'll text everyone before I leave and after I get home
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I am at the training station now. No sign of the bus yet.
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Shaun, Ronnie,
Please make sure you are ready to pick up the phone.
If any news, please update the status in the page here.
Thanks, bill
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HI LA folks,
Did you get the packages from the bus around 2:15 pm? I talked to the customer service, the bus already left from China town
1231 North Spring Street, LA, CA.
Can anybody please update?
Regards,
bill
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I picked up my trees from the training station. Ronni and Shaun picked them as well.
Thank you very Bill......
Al
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Awesome!
Thank you, folks.
bill
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Crazy but we are just a day or two shy of the 22 Jan 2022 pickups!
Nice job and many thanks for organizing successful group buys!
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Nice meeting everyone at the bus stop. Trees are ready to be picked up!
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Just picked up the box for San Diego . If you are coming to collect your trees I’m waiting 30 mins . Meet outside the seafood super market . The address was provided by Bill
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Hi everyone,
I am planning to soak my trees with Superthrive vitamin solution be fore I am plan them in the Potts.
Does anyone had experience with this product. How long should I soak the trees? I am planning to soak them overnight, is that ok?
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i would just do an hour Al
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Hi Bill
Can you send me WanXu contact info. Or have contact me? His order is 89
I have his 2 trees. Thanks
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I will send him email .
Thanks,bill
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Folks,
All the packages were shipped out today.
I will send the copy of USPS receipt to each individual for tracking.
Thank you,
Bill
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i would just do an hour Al
Thanks elouicious....
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Thanks again Bill for coordinating this group buy. It’s a ton of work for sure.
I just picked up a few trees for my friend in San Diego and some of the trees definitely have nematodes although much less than the previous group buy. It would be best practice to treat all your trees as if they’re infected even if they don’t have the galls on them because they most likely contacted contaminated trees.
Here’s a few pictures of the nematode galls from this order.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xqz9hNcy/5279-CF0-B-B9-D0-4-C28-B451-215-F03-E2-DCAA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqz9hNcy)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1f1yQRFx/57-AF7712-D446-46-F8-9-B45-8-A94-B5978-CFF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1f1yQRFx)
A few of the smaller trees are pretty dried dried up and one of the smaller trees I got for my friend has the entire top starting to wrinkle which isn’t a good sign.
This sort of thing is to be expected for such a large shipment of trees and that is why many people ordered extra trees in case some don’t make it.
The nematode thing sucks as well but if you’ve been following the Yangmei threads/post, you probably figured that just about all the trees shipped from overseas has the potential to carry nematodes.
I highly recommend that everyone treat their trees as if they are infected so that they don’t spread these nasty bugs in their garden.
Simon
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Thanks Simon, I didnt see any sign of nematodes on my order, but I will take your advise to treat them.
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It was nice to meet you guys in person. Thanks Simon, I will also treat mine once I put them in the pot ..
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Only one of my trees (DK) showed possible signs of nematodes. It was just one bulbous root that I cut off. Other than that, the trees look really nice! I also soaked in B1 Start for about an hour and watered the soil with it. I've had great results using it in the past for other trees. The plants skipped transplant shock and new growth would appear just a couple days later.
(https://i.postimg.cc/F1ds5Pf4/IMG-1994.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1ds5Pf4)
Already in their new homes. I know these plants are cold tolerant once they're established, but is it ok to leave them out at night while they're recuperating? My lows are in the 40-45F for the next week.
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Thanks again Bill for coordinating this group buy. It’s a ton of work for sure.
I just picked up a few trees for my friend in San Diego and some of the trees definitely have nematodes although much less than the previous group buy. It would be best practice to treat all your trees as if they’re infected even if they don’t have the galls on them because they most likely contacted contaminated trees.
Here’s a few pictures of the nematode galls from this order.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xqz9hNcy/5279-CF0-B-B9-D0-4-C28-B451-215-F03-E2-DCAA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqz9hNcy)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1f1yQRFx/57-AF7712-D446-46-F8-9-B45-8-A94-B5978-CFF.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1f1yQRFx)
A few of the smaller trees are pretty dried dried up and one of the smaller trees I got for my friend has the entire top starting to wrinkle which isn’t a good sign.
This sort of thing is to be expected for such a large shipment of trees and that is why many people ordered extra trees in case some don’t make it.
The nematode thing sucks as well but if you’ve been following the Yangmei threads/post, you probably figured that just about all the trees shipped from overseas has the potential to carry nematodes.
I highly recommend that everyone treat their trees as if they are infected so that they don’t spread these nasty bugs in their garden.
Simon
Thanks for the recommendations Simon. Do you use the Monterey nematode control at full strength?
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Only one of my trees (DK) showed possible signs of nematodes. It was just one bulbous root that I cut off. Other than that, the trees look really nice! I also soaked in B1 Start for about an hour and watered the soil with it. I've had great results using it in the past for other trees. The plants skipped transplant shock and new growth would appear just a couple days later.
(https://i.postimg.cc/F1ds5Pf4/IMG-1994.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1ds5Pf4)
Already in their new homes. I know these plants are cold tolerant once they're established, but is it ok to leave them out at night while they're recuperating? My lows are in the 40-45F for the next week.
You may consider a heating mat. I had success doing exactly what you’re doing but with a heat mat underneath, also make sure you have a bunch of holes in the bag and some air flow.
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Got a mini Green House.
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It was great meeting you guys earlier!
It should be ok leaving them out overnight but it would be much better to put them in a warmer area that has high humidity.
Nate, I use it at 1.33 Oz per gallon.
Simon
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You may consider a heating mat. I had success doing exactly what you’re doing but with a heat mat underneath, also make sure you have a bunch of holes in the bag and some air flow.
My last order did well doing this, but I think I took them out of the bags too soon. The branches were dry and I lost 2 of 4. That's a big heat mat. I probably have enough of them to cover it, but they're busy right now ;D
I have this crazy idea...right above that photo is a round vent for a ceiling exhaust fan. I'm thinking about tenting the plants with some painter's plastic and run a duct pipe down the wall and under the tent to vent out my heated air into the tent at night. I really should just move them inside... Thanks I actually forgot about holes!
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Thanks Simon :)
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Thank you, Bill, for your hard work on this, also thanks to Ronnie for pickup.
Plants look very good.
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For those of you who are potting and not just grafting what size pots are you using?
Anyone care to share your mix of soil or your brand?
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Foe those of you who are potting and not just grafting what size pots are you using?
Anyone care to share your mix of soil or your brand?
Use the smallest pot size available because it's easier to control watering. Last order I used 1 gallons with the exception of a 3 to fit a larger tree.
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Foe those of you who are potting and not just grafting what size pots are you using?
Anyone care to share your mix of soil or your brand?
I’ll be using a my blend that does very well for me, it’s 3 parts coco coir, 2 parts perlite, and 1 part worm castings. I’ll be wrapping my trees with buddy tape before planting and then treating them with beneficial nematodes to kill any bad nematodes. From there, just hoping for the best. They’ll be in my greenhouse in Fl
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EAST COAST YANG MEI CLUB!!!!
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For those of you who are potting and not just grafting what size pots are you using?
Anyone care to share your mix of soil or your brand?
I'd say have some 1-5 gallon pots on hand
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Yup, agreed. The smallest pot that will hold the entire root mass with the root flare at top, generally a #1 container. You could use any soil as long as you are familiar with it and can control the soil moisture. I typically use Foxfarm Ocean Forest combined with some Happy Frog but I’m out of that soil today so I’m using Promix this time because I have it laying around.
Keep the plants in high humidity and out of direct sunlight. These plants should be put into intensive care until their first flush has fully hardened.
Simon
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I also want to mention that these trees should be quarantined away from all other trees. This is especially important for nurseries that ship trees to other states that have nematode restrictions.
Simon
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Myrica rubra is an obligate N fixer and uses a species Frankia bacteria to create its own N inside on nodules in their roots, I’m not sure that it is wise to remove all root nodules because it would prevent the plants from producing their own nitrogen. The lose of their symbiotic bacteria might slow down the trees growth. I’m sure mixing in a microrhyzel mix might help the plants but removing all the nitrogen nodules might be hard on the plant. Here is an article about their nodule formation but there are a few articles about it
http://www.lykxyj.com/en/article/id/19940311
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Myrica rubra is an obligate N fixer and uses a species Frankia bacteria to create its own N inside on nodules in their roots, I’m not sure that it is wise to remove all root nodules because it would prevent the plants from producing their own nitrogen. The lose of their symbiotic bacteria might slow down the trees growth. I’m sure mixing in a microrhyzel mix might help the plants but removing all the nitrogen nodules might be hard on the plant. Here is an article about their nodule formation but there are a few articles about it
http://www.lykxyj.com/en/article/id/19940311
At the same time, tons of complaints about previous orders spreading RKN in people's yards and growing spaces, so some pruning and quarantine can go a long way. I cant afford for my small yard to get infested, ill be buying probably from someone here in a few years.
The formation and texture of nitrogen-fixing nodules is different enough than galls formed by RKN, so its potentially easy to identify if you have an issue. Even if you killed off most of the nodules, like you said there's plenty of soil amendments that can help them boune back. I would err on the side of caution.
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Myrica rubra is an obligate N fixer and uses a species Frankia bacteria to create its own N inside on nodules in their roots, I’m not sure that it is wise to remove all root nodules because it would prevent the plants from producing their own nitrogen. The lose of their symbiotic bacteria might slow down the trees growth. I’m sure mixing in a microrhyzel mix might help the plants but removing all the nitrogen nodules might be hard on the plant. Here is an article about their nodule formation but there are a few articles about it
http://www.lykxyj.com/en/article/id/19940311
Hey Murraystevena2,
I checked the galls and they are not Frankia Actinomycetes. This article discusses the nodule formation of Frankia and the cascade of gene expression post infection.
https://www.ajol.info/index.php/ajb/article/download/14883/58628
I dissected a few nodules to see if I can find any Iron like reddish brown coloration and the galls are cream colored or whitish like your typical root. The morphology of these galls are identical to the other group buy where the roots were more heavily infested.
The roots on these trees have this morphology
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-52118-4.pdf?pdf=button%20sticky
Frankia can have different morphologies but they would typically look something like this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankia
Simon
Simon
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What do you think of the setup here?
(https://i.postimg.cc/5QYJMDrQ/signal-2023-01-21-11-07-26-783.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5QYJMDrQ)
They are indoors (70f) in my room with a fishtank (highest humidity I can get) and parafilm wrapped
Planning to leave them like this until I see the first flush- water when the soil dries, and probably graft when some branches are hardened
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Not too bad, as mentioned earlier, if you wrapped with parafilm, be very careful when the buds pop through the parafilm. Also, if you wrapped the entire tree, there is no longer the need for super high humidity because the moisture is retained under the film. You could have maybe gone down in size for your fabric pots. Instead of using a larger pot, I shoved the roots together into a #1 container because I find it much easier to control the soil moisture.
Simon
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Cheers-
I actually only put the biggest trees in 5g because I was worried about bending the taproot to fin in a 3g-
curled many of the feeders into 3g for the other plants-
I will move them to another room and keep my fingers crossed for pushing!
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While potting some of the trees today, I noticed that the male trees are not grafted. They have failed grafts and the rootstock trees are so young, I wonder how they were able to determine they are male because I doubt they have flowered at such a small size?
Did anyone get male trees that are actually grafted?
Simon
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While potting some of the trees today, I noticed that the male trees are not grafted. They have failed grafts and the rootstock trees are so young, I wonder how they were able to determine they are male because I doubt they have flowered at such a small size?
Did anyone get male trees that are actually grafted?
Simon
Last order mine was failed graft too. I believe it’s just luck like they expect 1/2 of those “males” to be males. I would like to send them to Marta at Really good Plants. Once I get more to see if it’s true or not.
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I have multiple males that have been DNA tested by Marta but I wanted to see how these so called “Male Dongkui”, “Male Biqi” compare to my male seedlings. I’m looking for potential Early, Mid and Late season males so that I can get a wider production window.
It would be total BS if they’re just winging it and guessing that half will be male.
Simon
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Hi Simon,
I didn't order any male this year, but my DongKui male order from last year was grafted.
Thanks,
Al
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I cant speak from experience, but Hapa Joe can. He said to make sure that the energy goes into the roots when they are bare root. His trees look very well and he said that often times they could potentially flush then die because the energy went into the leaves instead of a healthy root system. I wonder if anyone here can attest to this? looking forward to more Yangmei in the US of A! Thanks Bill.
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Yes, you definitely want to take care of the roots. That’s why I keep mentioning to use the appropriate size container and gradually step up the size incrementally. By taking care of the root system, your roots should look something like this.
(https://i.postimg.cc/LqFL4v8m/8-F65758-D-CC41-4-B0-D-AA57-4478-B954-C894.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LqFL4v8m)
Simon
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I call on your expertise once again-
Opinions on the following organisms here?
Beneficial Endo Mycorrhizal fungi species: Glomus intraradices, Glomus mosseae, Glomus aggregatum, Glomus clarum, Glomus deserticola, Glomus etunicatum, Gigaspora margarita, Gigaspora brasilianum, Gigaspora monosporum
Beneficial Ecto Mycorrhizal fungi species: Rhizopogon villosullus, Rhizopogon luteolus, Rhizopogon amylopogon, Rhizopogon fulvigleba, Pisolithus tinctorius, Laccaria bicolor, Laccaria laccata, Scleroderma cepa, Scleroderma citrinum, Suillus granulatas, Suillus punctatapies
Trichoderma species: Trichoderma harzianum, Trichoderma konigii
Beneficial bacteria: Bacillus subtillus, Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus azotoformans, Bacillus megaterium, Bacillus coagulans, Bacillus pumlis, Bacillus thuringiensis, Bacillus stearothermiphilis, Paenibacillus polymyxa, Paenibacillus durum, Paenibacillus florescence, Paenibacillus gordonae, Azotobacter polymyxa, Azotobacter chroococcum, Sacchromyces cervisiae, Streptomyces griseues, Streptomyces lydicus, Pseudomonas aureofaceans, Deinococcus erythromyxa
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Hey Elouicious,
The potting soil I use already has beneficial microbes and for Yangmei, Frankia Actinomycetes is really beneficial when growing in nutrient poor soils. I wouldn’t get fixated on the various organisms but I do believe in feeding the soil and taking care of those microbes so that they can take care of our trees.
Simon
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Thanks!
got a source on Frankia Actinomycetes?
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Thanks!
got a source on Frankia Actinomycetes?
among the gazillion things i did to try to maximize the chance of success with my yangmeis, one thing i did was unpot my 5 myrica californicas in 1 gallon pots and steal some of their soil to add to the medium i was preparing for the yangmeis. in one pot i found a huge earthworm, which i did not include. but i was hoping that there were a host of much smaller but also beneficial organisms in the californica soil. i recently bought them from a nursery but i'm guessing that they were not originally collected from the wild. but if they managed to pick up an earthworm from my place or elsewhere then perhaps they managed to pick up other beneficials.
i didn't notice any obvious nodules on the californica roots. then again i only pilfered the lose soil and didn't bother with trying to wash away the dense medium around the root ball. but even if i had, the nodules can be kinda subtle (https://www.laspilitas.com/classes/Frankia.html)?
one trick for "cycling" new aquariums is to add a spoonful of rich garden soil. evidently the chances are good that it will harbor more beneficial microbes than harmful ones. with this in mind i always try to reuse old soil, even when a plant died in the pot.
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Thank you Bill for arranging everything
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Simon-
What do you think of the setup here?
(https://i.postimg.cc/5QYJMDrQ/signal-2023-01-21-11-07-26-783.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5QYJMDrQ)
They are indoors (70f) in my room with a fishtank (highest humidity I can get) and parafilm wrapped
Planning to leave them like this until I see the first flush- water when the soil dries, and probably graft when some branches are hardened
Whoa!! I hope my trees are that big!! I think we're going to need a bigger boat!!! Those pots look like 3 to 5 gals. Am I correct?
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Thanks!
got a source on Frankia Actinomycetes?
Sorry but I don’t have a source for Frankia. From the articles I read, Frankia is beneficial when growing in nutrient poor soil. It may be more difficult to establish Frankia in nutrient rich soil and if the soil already has the nutrients, Frankia may not be as useful. I have many good sized Yangmei that are growing really well without Frankia.
Simon
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Simon-
What do you think of the setup here?
(https://i.postimg.cc/5QYJMDrQ/signal-2023-01-21-11-07-26-783.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5QYJMDrQ)
They are indoors (70f) in my room with a fishtank (highest humidity I can get) and parafilm wrapped
Planning to leave them like this until I see the first flush- water when the soil dries, and probably graft when some branches are hardened
Whoa!! I hope my trees are that big!! I think we're going to need a bigger boat!!! Those pots look like 3 to 5 gals. Am I correct?
You are correct! dont want to get your hopes up too much though
Definitely my biggest tree, and the varieties were of massively different sizes, my biqi is easily a 3rd of the size and went in a 1g-
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Has anyone been following this Yangmei auction on ebay? Current bid is $3,000 is it because of the variety, hype, or demand? maybe all of the above. Im shocked, glad I got in on this group order.
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Has anyone been following this Yangmei auction on ebay? Current bid is $3,000 is it because of the variety, hype, or demand? maybe all of the above. Im shocked, glad I got in on this group order.
Capitalism. "A fool and his money are soon parted," so if they want it let them pay. Consider this, we in this group buy, are hoping to get viable plants that might grow and might not. The failure rates are super high and yet we still want the chance because we see it as an opportunity. Opportunity costs. It is to the buyer to determine if the price is too high. :-[
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Value is relative. Why wait when you can pay and it doesn't hurt.
If I bought a 3k tree it would hurt a lot. First the wallet, and then even worse the ass kicking my wife would deliver. Kids might jump in too.
Good luck everyone with your trees!
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Has anyone been following this Yangmei auction on ebay? Current bid is $3,000 is it because of the variety, hype, or demand? maybe all of the above. Im shocked, glad I got in on this group order.
Crazy! If anyone is interested in other varieties including this Hard Flesh, we can have another group order. But not very soon, first let’s recover our trees and make them survive.
Actually the Anhai which we ordered is also called Prince soft silk or soft flesh, is similar to or even more popular than the hard flesh in eBay bidding.
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order # 92 by Budutukco hasn’t been picked up yet.
Please stop by for local pickup in the Bay Area.
Thanks, bill
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Has anyone been following this Yangmei auction on ebay? Current bid is $3,000 is it because of the variety, hype, or demand? maybe all of the above. Im shocked, glad I got in on this group order.
Crazy! If anyone is interested in other varieties including this Hard Flesh, we can have another group order. But not very soon, first let’s recover our trees and make them survive.
Actually the Anhai which we ordered is also called Prince soft silk or soft flesh, is similar to or even more popular than the hard flesh in eBay bidding.
Don't be a tease Bill!!!!! 8) ;) 8) ;) 8) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Folks,
There are some trees remaining as shown in the pictures attached, the vendor added them for backup.
about 10 wusu + 15 ( biqi + anhai) + 15 male trees. I put here for bidding, the starting bidding price is $300, the winner gets all the trees. Then I will pack them up for the shipping to the highest bidder. I am thinking of donating the money to the TFF website. The winner is expected to pay the shipping cost.
(https://i.postimg.cc/YGPp0ZQc/Image-11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGPp0ZQc)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bt8SkZGJ/Image-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bt8SkZGJ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kBKnMj4Z/Image-13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBKnMj4Z)
In the second box, Biqi and Anhai labels are lost, they are mixed up.
In the third box, they are all male trees, some labels are lost.
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We might should consider donating to our local USDA centers and botanical gardens. Think I will locally.
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Folks,
There are some trees remaining as shown in the pictures attached, the vendor added them for backup.
10 wusu + 15 ( biqi + anhai) + 15 male trees. I put here for bidding till tomorrow 12 PM Pacific time, the starting bidding price is $300, then I will pack them up for the shipping to the highest bidder. I am thinking of donating the money to the TFF website. The winner is expected to pay the shipping cost.
(https://i.postimg.cc/YGPp0ZQc/Image-11.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YGPp0ZQc)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bt8SkZGJ/Image-12.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bt8SkZGJ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kBKnMj4Z/Image-13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBKnMj4Z)
In the second box, Biqi and Anhai labels are lost, they are mixed up.
In the third box, they are all male trees, some labels are lost.
Count me in, Ill start the first bid at 350
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The trees were claimed by a buyer.
They are not available anymore.
Thanks, bill
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Hi this is Elsa. I tracked the shipment it says delivered in Santa Rosa. But I live in Wilmington North Carolina
Can you please check thanks
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I sent you a wrong tracking number, it is 9505 5118 0193 3020 5547 63.
Let me know in private message or send me email if you have other questions.
Thanks, bill
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Myrica rubra is an obligate N fixer and uses a species Frankia bacteria to create its own N inside on nodules in their roots, I’m not sure that it is wise to remove all root nodules because it would prevent the plants from producing their own nitrogen. The lose of their symbiotic bacteria might slow down the trees growth. I’m sure mixing in a microrhyzel mix might help the plants but removing all the nitrogen nodules might be hard on the plant. Here is an article about their nodule formation but there are a few articles about it
http://www.lykxyj.com/en/article/id/19940311
Hey Murraystevena2,
I checked the galls and they are not Frankia Actinomycetes. This article discusses the nodule formation of Frankia and the cascade of gene expression post infection.
https://www.ajol.info/index.php/ajb/article/download/14883/58628
I dissected a few nodules to see if I can find any Iron like reddish brown coloration and the galls are cream colored or whitish like your typical root. The morphology of these galls are identical to the other group buy where the roots were more heavily infested.
The roots on these trees have this morphology
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-52118-4.pdf?pdf=button%20sticky
Frankia can have different morphologies but they would typically look something like this
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankia
Simon
Simon
Oh no, were trees infected with RKN in this order also?!
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Got some Yangmei in Florida now, I soaked the roots below the graft for 30 minutes in very diluted rooting hormone/water. Then, proceeded to wrap the trees in Buddy grafting tape above the graft unions. Then into some damp/moist (not wet) well draining soil and into the humid greenhouse. Wishing everyone the best of luck. Everyone send Bill a Thank You!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx/IMG-2282.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx)
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Got some Yangmei in Florida now, I soaked the roots below the graft for 30 minutes in very diluted rooting hormone/water. Then, proceeded to wrap the trees in Buddy grafting tape above the graft unions. Then into some damp/moist (not wet) well draining soil and into the humid greenhouse. Wishing everyone the best of luck. Everyone send Bill a Thank You!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx/IMG-2282.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx)
How do your trees look? Are the grafts green or brown?
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The male trees I got are seedlings, confirming the hunch of others. Also, they were all dried out...Of course that can be expected with group orders it's a huge gamble sometimes...I'll do a write up later tonight with more details.
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Hi Bill
My trees don't look alive. None of them has a green graft. it looks like they were scratched to check if the grafts were still alive before they were shipped. I wish you sent me at least one alive tree...
Do you think I had time to scratch the trees, pick up the dead ones and send them to you? Even if I had time, why I needed to do that to you?
On 1/19 night, first I was busy in charging local pick up for the bay area, elouicious(Daniel) was also helping the packaging, then after 10:30 pm, I started to assort the trees for LA and San Diego folks in 5 packages, some people wanted me pack in separate bags, this took extra time in preparation. Around 1 AM, I started to work on the packages for next day's shipment till 4:30 am. I slept less than two hours, and at 7:00 am, packed up two more boxes, then rushed to the bus stop for the package delivery in San Jose. After dropping the 5 boxed in the bus heading down to LA, I moved to a nearby post office for the first round of shipment for FL and Hawaii folks. Then I rushed back to home for other people's local pick up.
I knew potentially lots of complaints may come up again including the pests issue. That's why before Pouya and I left the USDA office, I double checked with USDA person who was in charge of releasing our trees, she said no pests were found in the inspection.
I truly feel sorry about the trees you received, if there is a next round, I will pick the best trees for you.
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Hi Bill
My trees don't look alive. None of them has a green graft. it looks like they were scratched to check if the grafts were still alive before they were shipped. I wish you sent me at least one alive tree...
I did lots of preparations, even built a greenhouse, and at the end... Got dead trees !
Though I was not in on this buy, I was in on the last one. I had a few that looked rough and I just did my best to get them to live. It's all you can do. In the end, I didn't have any plants to show for it - that's just part of the risk you take in buying plants in general. The shipping across country at this time is very challenging as well, and if they went through the wrong hub or sat on the tarmac too long, they would die from cold completely unrelated to Bill or the seller overseas. I think Bill does a phenomenal job with these group buys and it's clearly a LOT of work.
I know it hurts to lose a plant, and some money too, but that's just part of the deal with these yangmei orders. It's gambling and losses are common.
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Got some Yangmei in Florida now, I soaked the roots below the graft for 30 minutes in very diluted rooting hormone/water. Then, proceeded to wrap the trees in Buddy grafting tape above the graft unions. Then into some damp/moist (not wet) well draining soil and into the humid greenhouse. Wishing everyone the best of luck. Everyone send Bill a Thank You!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx/IMG-2282.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx)
How do your trees look? Are the grafts green or brown?
My trees all look good after the scratch test, all of them seemed to be green. there was some dieback on some of the branches but minimal. Like everyone said, its a gamble and Bill did a great job facilitating what he had to work with.
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Has anyone been following this Yangmei auction on ebay? Current bid is $3,000 is it because of the variety, hype, or demand? maybe all of the above. Im shocked, glad I got in on this group order.
That is my listing. This variety is a different variety than any of the other one going around. It is also an established tree. There is a huge benefit of buying an established tree vs trying to grow one form bare root. I was part of the last group order and got something like 23 trees. Guess what I have to show for those... 2 male trees infected with RKN.
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Has anyone been following this Yangmei auction on ebay? Current bid is $3,000 is it because of the variety, hype, or demand? maybe all of the above. Im shocked, glad I got in on this group order.
That is my listing. This variety is a different variety than any of the other one going around. It is also an established tree. There is a huge benefit of buying an established tree vs trying to grow one form bare root. I was part of the last group order and got something like 23 trees. Guess what I have to show for those... 2 male trees infected with RKN.
How did you prepare your trees out of the 26? Did you wrap them each with parafilm and use rooting hormone supplements, were they kept in high humidity in a greenhouse, there are a lot of factors. Along with viability factors from each order. Just curious, cheers!
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Onur - don’t give up on them. Continue as if all is ok. Give them love, humidity and a few weeks.
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Well here is my update writing...
These trees I got are for a friend.
Bill sent us 2 wusu 1 biqi 2 dk males 1 late growing male. The tips were dying back so grafting was not an option. Also, the roots were not as healthy as last order. I'll give a 50% chance to get at least 1 tree growing. Group orders are hard, and much thanks to Bill. Whether the trees grow or not is not in the power of us or Bill or the exporter. It's just if the tree wants to live it'll live. You need decent care and good RNG to make these survive. I've dedicated over blank amount of dollars of money to growing this and am happy to say I have been successful in some parts. BUT that does not come with many dead trees and other failures. If you want to be successful you have to be willing to adapt and learn. Don't give up if you failed, but if you do, don't worry, there are people out there who haven't given up and will supply you with trees. Of course it comes with a price. We've dedicated countless dollars and hours to get these to grow, what can you expect?
Anyways, if you haven't already, check out the yangmei thread by Simon. There's a plethora of information on there. Anyways much thanks to Bill, and I wish you all the best with reviving your trees. If you want any help, feel free to pm me, or just check out previous threads.
Best,
Ryan
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/234861632383?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20220705100511%26meid%3D28e811e863a849d995b790028f5313a8%26pid%3D101524%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D234861632383%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2%26brand%3DTree&_trksid=p2380057.c101524.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3A92f829ac-9a7d-11ed-9bb8-86b7cecd5782%7Cparentrq%3Ada9c73cb1850a45b09641676fffd5338%7Ciid%3A1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/234861632383?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20220705100511%26meid%3D28e811e863a849d995b790028f5313a8%26pid%3D101524%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D234861632383%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2%26brand%3DTree&_trksid=p2380057.c101524.m146925&_trkparms=pageci%3A92f829ac-9a7d-11ed-9bb8-86b7cecd5782%7Cparentrq%3Ada9c73cb1850a45b09641676fffd5338%7Ciid%3A1)
Has anyone been following this Yangmei auction on ebay? Current bid is $3,000 is it because of the variety, hype, or demand? maybe all of the above. Im shocked, glad I got in on this group order.
That is my listing. This variety is a different variety than any of the other one going around. It is also an established tree. There is a huge benefit of buying an established tree vs trying to grow one form bare root. I was part of the last group order and got something like 23 trees. Guess what I have to show for those... 2 male trees infected with RKN.
How do you know your established trees aren’t infected with RKN??? Let’s see the roots.
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Got some Yangmei in Florida now, I soaked the roots below the graft for 30 minutes in very diluted rooting hormone/water. Then, proceeded to wrap the trees in Buddy grafting tape above the graft unions. Then into some damp/moist (not wet) well draining soil and into the humid greenhouse. Wishing everyone the best of luck. Everyone send Bill a Thank You!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx/IMG-2282.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx)
How do your trees look? Are the grafts green or brown?
My trees all look good after the scratch test, all of them seemed to be green. there was some dieback on some of the branches but minimal. Like everyone said, its a gamble and Bill did a great job facilitating what he had to work with.
Our trees were shipped at the same time. You are lucky that all of your trees are good. I am not that lucky. All of mine are dead. You can't even scratch because they are so dry.
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Got some Yangmei in Florida now, I soaked the roots below the graft for 30 minutes in very diluted rooting hormone/water. Then, proceeded to wrap the trees in Buddy grafting tape above the graft unions. Then into some damp/moist (not wet) well draining soil and into the humid greenhouse. Wishing everyone the best of luck. Everyone send Bill a Thank You!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx/IMG-2282.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx)
How do your trees look? Are the grafts green or brown?
My trees all look good after the scratch test, all of them seemed to be green. there was some dieback on some of the branches but minimal. Like everyone said, its a gamble and Bill did a great job facilitating what he had to work with.
Our trees were shipped at the same time. You are lucky that all of your trees are good. I am not that lucky. All of mine are dead. You can't even scratch because they are so dry.
Pics onur? they often look worse than they are, I wouldnt give up hope-
Just to add to the scoreboard I am 0/11 on my previous trees
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Onur - don’t give up on them. Continue as if all is ok. Give them love, humidity and a few weeks.
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They are just dead! There is no green even on the bottom of the grafts when I scratch.
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Got some Yangmei in Florida now, I soaked the roots below the graft for 30 minutes in very diluted rooting hormone/water. Then, proceeded to wrap the trees in Buddy grafting tape above the graft unions. Then into some damp/moist (not wet) well draining soil and into the humid greenhouse. Wishing everyone the best of luck. Everyone send Bill a Thank You!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx/IMG-2282.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx)
How do your trees look? Are the grafts green or brown?
My trees all look good after the scratch test, all of them seemed to be green. there was some dieback on some of the branches but minimal. Like everyone said, its a gamble and Bill did a great job facilitating what he had to work with.
Our trees were shipped at the same time. You are lucky that all of your trees are good. I am not that lucky. All of mine are dead. You can't even scratch because they are so dry.
Pics onur? they often look worse than they are, I wouldnt give up hope-
Just to add to the scoreboard I am 0/11 on my previous trees
I will send pics tomorrow. Out of the previous 11 trees, none is alive?
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yup-
I didn't wrap and probably drowned my last ones-
there is a reason established trees are fetching such a premium-
Bill could have gone the cal-mei route and made people sign NDA's or only provide people to certain trees (I contacted calmei years ago and was told I could not buy a tree or fruit from them) but instead he is providing the opportunity to get a tree through the methods he described in the initial post.
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yup-
I didn't wrap and probably drowned my last ones-
there is a reason established trees are fetching such a premium-
Bill could have gone the cal-mei route and made people sign NDA's or only provide people to certain trees (I contacted calmei years ago and was told I could not buy a tree or fruit from them) but instead he is providing the opportunity to get a tree through the methods he described in the initial post.
Should they be watered after being planted? Or they should just be planted in a slightly moistened soil?
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yup-
I didn't wrap and probably drowned my last ones-
there is a reason established trees are fetching such a premium-
Bill could have gone the cal-mei route and made people sign NDA's or only provide people to certain trees (I contacted calmei years ago and was told I could not buy a tree or fruit from them) but instead he is providing the opportunity to get a tree through the methods he described in the initial post.
Should they be watered after being planted? Or they should just be planted in a slightly moistened soil?
The black stems may not be dead. Snip the ends. I had some that looked black but had green underneath.
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I noticed that the grafting tape that came on the females were all starting to girdle the growth of the yangmei grafts, I took off the old grafting tape and re applied some fresh stuff on it that may seem to help energy flow. I am thinking this could help.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xN20mjRX/IMG-2287.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xN20mjRX)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7GvDvPjK/IMG-2289.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7GvDvPjK)
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yup-
I didn't wrap and probably drowned my last ones-
there is a reason established trees are fetching such a premium-
Bill could have gone the cal-mei route and made people sign NDA's or only provide people to certain trees (I contacted calmei years ago and was told I could not buy a tree or fruit from them) but instead he is providing the opportunity to get a tree through the methods he described in the initial post.
Should they be watered after being planted? Or they should just be planted in a slightly moistened soil?
This time I am going with watering initially, and waiting until the soil dries at 1 knuckle depth (stick your finger in the dirt) before watering again-
After talking with Simon and Jaboticaba45 this seems to be the best method to revive the roots
Also wrapping with buddy tape or parafilm so the grafts do not lose any more moisture
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At least ya'll got trees and have a chance. USPS seems to have lost my trees. Came and went yesterday and today, no package. Tracking no help.
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Keep in mind that scratch test is not a good indicator of if your tree will live. All the trees I have ever gotten were green. The problem is the wood underneath is already starting to fade and die. So even if it's green, it'll eventually die. And even if it's green and alive, if the roots don't grow and rebound from the shock, the plant can't survive. best you can do is just give your best care and wait. Within a month, you'll know if you are successful or not.
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At least ya'll got trees and have a chance. USPS seems to have lost my trees. Came and went yesterday and today, no package. Tracking no help.
oh no!
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At least ya'll got trees and have a chance. USPS seems to have lost my trees. Came and went yesterday and today, no package. Tracking no help.
https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=9505510594013020596393
the tracking status says it's delayed, but still on the way.
I feel so sorry for what happened.
bill
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If you want a little more humidity put a bucket(s) of water in the surrounding area of the trees. Sure sounds quacky but it’s true.
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Got some Yangmei in Florida now, I soaked the roots below the graft for 30 minutes in very diluted rooting hormone/water. Then, proceeded to wrap the trees in Buddy grafting tape above the graft unions. Then into some damp/moist (not wet) well draining soil and into the humid greenhouse. Wishing everyone the best of luck. Everyone send Bill a Thank You!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx/IMG-2282.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx)
How do your trees look? Are the grafts green or brown?
My trees all look good after the scratch test, all of them seemed to be green. there was some dieback on some of the branches but minimal. Like everyone said, its a gamble and Bill did a great job facilitating what he had to work with.
Our trees were shipped at the same time. You are lucky that all of your trees are good. I am not that lucky. All of mine are dead. You can't even scratch because they are so dry.
Pics onur? they often look worse than they are, I wouldnt give up hope-
Just to add to the scoreboard I am 0/11 on my previous trees
(https://i.postimg.cc/rRzNKJ96/20230124-145857.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rRzNKJ96)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7CD1gDNn/20230124-150003.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7CD1gDNn)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bj2cLt2v/20230124-150239.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj2cLt2v)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VSRqgTGQ/20230124-150408.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSRqgTGQ)
Two of them has some green. Hope those make it.
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Got some Yangmei in Florida now, I soaked the roots below the graft for 30 minutes in very diluted rooting hormone/water. Then, proceeded to wrap the trees in Buddy grafting tape above the graft unions. Then into some damp/moist (not wet) well draining soil and into the humid greenhouse. Wishing everyone the best of luck. Everyone send Bill a Thank You!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx/IMG-2282.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Wd1sncRx)
How do your trees look? Are the grafts green or brown?
My trees all look good after the scratch test, all of them seemed to be green. there was some dieback on some of the branches but minimal. Like everyone said, its a gamble and Bill did a great job facilitating what he had to work with.
Our trees were shipped at the same time. You are lucky that all of your trees are good. I am not that lucky. All of mine are dead. You can't even scratch because they are so dry.
Pics onur? they often look worse than they are, I wouldnt give up hope-
Just to add to the scoreboard I am 0/11 on my previous trees
(https://i.postimg.cc/rRzNKJ96/20230124-145857.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rRzNKJ96)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7CD1gDNn/20230124-150003.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7CD1gDNn)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bj2cLt2v/20230124-150239.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj2cLt2v)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VSRqgTGQ/20230124-150408.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSRqgTGQ)
Two of them has some green. Hope those make it.
You should really wrap them with buddy tape or parafilm
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At least ya'll got trees and have a chance. USPS seems to have lost my trees. Came and went yesterday and today, no package. Tracking no help.
Terrible! Hope you receive them tomorrow.
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Keep in mind that scratch test is not a good indicator of if your tree will live. All the trees I have ever gotten were green. The problem is the wood underneath is already starting to fade and die. So even if it's green, it'll eventually die. And even if it's green and alive, if the roots don't grow and rebound from the shock, the plant can't survive. best you can do is just give your best care and wait. Within a month, you'll know if you are successful or not.
I will keep that in mind. Thanks.
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yup-
I didn't wrap and probably drowned my last ones-
there is a reason established trees are fetching such a premium-
Bill could have gone the cal-mei route and made people sign NDA's or only provide people to certain trees (I contacted calmei years ago and was told I could not buy a tree or fruit from them) but instead he is providing the opportunity to get a tree through the methods he described in the initial post.
Should they be watered after being planted? Or they should just be planted in a slightly moistened soil?
The black stems may not be dead. Snip the ends. I had some that looked black but had green underneath.
I will just wait and see.
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You should really wrap them with buddy tape or parafilm
This, and ASAP. They need high humidity right now. At least bag them up if you don't want to wrap them. They'll have a tough time reviving if left out in the open, especially in sunlight. Good luck!
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If you want a little more humidity put a bucket(s) of water in the surrounding area of the trees. Sure sounds quacky but it’s true.
Yes, it is a simpler solution than keeping a fishpond or watering the ground.
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You should really wrap them with buddy tape or parafilm
This, and ASAP. They need high humidity right now. At least bag them up if you don't want to wrap them. They'll have a tough time reviving if left out in the open, especially in sunlight. Good luck!
(https://i.postimg.cc/7bmBwBkZ/20230124-173026.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bmBwBkZ)
Do you think this is enough? I also made a cut at the bottom of the trellises, so they don't get fungus. Should I still wrap them with parafilm?
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Looks great onur
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At least ya'll got trees and have a chance. USPS seems to have lost my trees. Came and went yesterday and today, no package. Tracking no help.
https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=9505510594013020596393
the tracking status says it's delayed, but still on the way.
I feel so sorry for what happened.
bill
Thank you Bill. Please don't feel bad about my trees. USPS dropped the ball, and I know how this thing can go. You have been tremendously kind and generous with your time and effort, and sacrificed sleep and chill time to help more people out. I have nothing but gratitude for you and all those who assisted.
I may be hitting people up for budwood in the near future, so anyone who has anything other than Biqi/BC, please contact me if you can sell scions. Got some good rootstock already.
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You should really wrap them with buddy tape or parafilm
This, and ASAP. They need high humidity right now. At least bag them up if you don't want to wrap them. They'll have a tough time reviving if left out in the open, especially in sunlight. Good luck!
(https://i.postimg.cc/7bmBwBkZ/20230124-173026.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7bmBwBkZ)
Do you think this is enough? I also made a cut at the bottom of the trellises, so they don't get fungus. Should I still wrap them with parafilm?
Looks good! I like the vents. I try to keep the humidity around 80-90%. Early on I like to see a little bit of condensation in there.
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Looks great onur
Would you keep those openings for ventilation or close them completely?
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I would close and watch for mold, if mold starts i would open
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Hi Bill
My trees don't look alive. None of them has a green graft. it looks like they were scratched to check if the grafts were still alive before they were shipped. I wish you sent me at least one alive tree...
I did lots of preparations, even built a greenhouse, and at the end... Got dead trees !
Sorry Onur, but that is really not appropriate. Bill is doing this all for the good of the community. No one is out to pick on you.
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Hi Bill
My trees don't look alive. None of them has a green graft. it looks like they were scratched to check if the grafts were still alive before they were shipped. I wish you sent me at least one alive tree...
I did lots of preparations, even built a greenhouse, and at the end... Got dead trees !
Sorry Onur, but that is really not appropriate. Bill is doing this all for the good of the community. No one is out to pick on you.
Ok. I will remove it then ! I know it was a huge work. And, I didn't say Bill did it...
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I would close and watch for mold, if mold starts i would open
Thank you.
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Mold on the yangmei covered in plastic with condensation can develop within a day. I lost several trees because if this on the first buy.
If you wrap in buddy tape it is difficult to unwrap without damaging the buds if it’s been on the branches for an extended period of time. Also, once you remove the buddy tape it’s important to maintain high humidity for the tree. The newly emerged leaves will dry out once you remove the tape without compensating for the change in humidity.
Once leaves start growing it’s important to slowly transition to any changes in humidity, temperature, light, etc. Decrease humidity in increments over a few weeks. If you put your trees outside after leaves have grown, watch for caterpillars, especially at night. I lost a tree that was looking pretty good due to caterpillars. I thought I got them all, but they were relentless.
Best of luck to everyone!
Janet
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Mold on the yangmei covered in plastic with condensation can develop within a day. I lost several trees because if this on the first buy.
If you wrap in buddy tape it is difficult to unwrap without damaging the buds if it’s been on the branches for an extended period of time. Also, once you remove the buddy tape it’s important to maintain high humidity for the tree. The newly emerged leaves will dry out once you remove the tape without compensating for the change in humidity.
Once leaves start growing it’s important to slowly transition to any changes in humidity, temperature, light, etc. Decrease humidity in increments over a few weeks. If you put your trees outside after leaves have grown, watch for caterpillars, especially at night. I lost a tree that was looking pretty good due to caterpillars. I thought I got them all, but they were relentless.
Best of luck to everyone!
Janet
Fellow Fallbrooker here-I wrapped mine in buddy tape but I assumed the point of buddy tape is that you don't have to remove it, that the buds will break through and eventually the tape disintegrates?
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in an ideal world yes-
in practice it sort of fuses with the bark and can get messy
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just to recap I'm not in the group buy but I'd like to know what to do in the future, been researching bare-root practices a bit and this is what i've got so far from a bunch of google searching and youtube videos; anything anyone disagrees with?
1) Soak whole tree in water for up to 1 hour, soak roots alone for longer, up to overnight
2) Prune large side branches if there are any
3) 85% RH (apply buddy tape now/I assume buddy tape wouldn't be needed if you have controlled environment?)
4) Shady/Cool place
I've also read that some people swear by mycorrhizal root dips as a way to better your odds, best of luck everyone!
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just to recap I'm not in the group buy but I'd like to know what to do in the future, been researching bare-root practices a bit and this is what i've got so far from a bunch of google searching and youtube videos; anything anyone disagrees with?
1) Soak whole tree in water for up to 1 hour, soak roots alone for longer, up to overnight
2) Prune large side branches if there are any
3) 85% RH (apply buddy tape now/I assume buddy tape wouldn't be needed if you have controlled environment?)
4) Shady/Cool place
I've also read that some people swear by mycorrhizal root dips as a way to better your odds, best of luck everyone!
Im not so sure about soaking the whole tree, could potentially mess with or rot the graft unions, just speculating. and you would have to wait for them to completely dry before putting on buddy tape of the whole tree were soaked, you dont want them to mold and rot out. I think soaking the roots for a hour or so and leaving the tops dry and wrapped with buddy tape would make sense to be the best practice? Im just speculating on that claim.
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Found this:
Ronnie Demler
October 22, 2022 ·
So I contacted a Chinese yangmei researcher about the rapid die off that many of us experience with our seedlings. I described the symptoms and included several pictures. Here is her response:
Dear Ron,
Good morning!
Letter received! Myrica rubra likes acid yellow soil. If the soil is too fertile, for example, the nitrogen and phosphorus content is high, it is easy to die. The main symptom of your bayberry death is that the nutrient matrix is not suitable.
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Found this:
Ronnie Demler
October 22, 2022 ·
So I contacted a Chinese yangmei researcher about the rapid die off that many of us experience with our seedlings. I described the symptoms and included several pictures. Here is her response:
Dear Ron,
Good morning!
Letter received! Myrica rubra likes acid yellow soil. If the soil is too fertile, for example, the nitrogen and phosphorus content is high, it is easy to die. The main symptom of your bayberry death is that the nutrient matrix is not suitable.
Does the researcher mean yellow like on the PH scale?
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Found this:
Ronnie Demler
October 22, 2022 ·
So I contacted a Chinese yangmei researcher about the rapid die off that many of us experience with our seedlings. I described the symptoms and included several pictures. Here is her response:
Dear Ron,
Good morning!
Letter received! Myrica rubra likes acid yellow soil. If the soil is too fertile, for example, the nitrogen and phosphorus content is high, it is easy to die. The main symptom of your bayberry death is that the nutrient matrix is not suitable.
Does the researcher mean yellow like on the PH scale?
I would assume it to be acidic soil over neutral or alkaline
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yea i meant acidic, havent heard the term acidic yellow tossed around before.
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just to recap I'm not in the group buy but I'd like to know what to do in the future, been researching bare-root practices a bit and this is what i've got so far from a bunch of google searching and youtube videos; anything anyone disagrees with?
1) Soak whole tree in water for up to 1 hour, soak roots alone for longer, up to overnight
2) Prune large side branches if there are any
3) 85% RH (apply buddy tape now/I assume buddy tape wouldn't be needed if you have controlled environment?)
4) Shady/Cool place
I've also read that some people swear by mycorrhizal root dips as a way to better your odds, best of luck everyone!
Im not so sure about soaking the whole tree, could potentially mess with or rot the graft unions, just speculating. and you would have to wait for them to completely dry before putting on buddy tape of the whole tree were soaked, you dont want them to mold and rot out. I think soaking the roots for a hour or so and leaving the tops dry and wrapped with buddy tape would make sense to be the best practice? Im just speculating on that claim.
mm the messing with the graft make a lot of sense, I was reading a post on a different forum from someone that claimed they sell bareroot trees (hibiscus) internationally for a living where he says to leave the roots to sit for a looong time/overnight and not dunk the trees, but this other guy that runs a farm on youtube dunks his whole tree for 2-3 hours and then plants directly in ground so I kinda combined them
The buddy tape is accomplishing the same thing as dunking right, rehydration? I was thinking the trunk would probably be 'dry' enough to wrap by the time its situated in soil or maybe 30 mins after, I'm really interested in the mycorrhizal route because they keep advertising "for bareroot transplant"
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I think the yellow more refers to the soil color-
there are red or grey clays and it looks like with a quick google acidic clay will turn yellow
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I think yellow soil may be fancy talk for high iron content -- Lychees and Yangmei grow prolifically along the same Yangtze river, lychees are infamously known for their low pH requirements/high iron needs?
I'd treat it like a lychee and see what happens, yangmei even shares all 4 provinces of china that lychees are found in!
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tru, I hope your're right about yangmei and lychees. I have a very strong growing lychee tree which gives lots of fruits, I think I will plant a few of these yangmei in ground next to it.
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Kankan, I have not found the buddy tape to disintegrate even after a year. If you use several layers to wrap tightly when grafting it will girdle your plant, so it's important to remove it after a few weeks and rewrap with flagging tape, rubber bands, etc. I was following Simon's advice to remove the buddy tape after buds start to grow, but some fragile buds ended up coming off with the buddy tape and did not regrow.
I'm not sure about the advice to cover plants with plastic. I followed that advice with the first buy from Beicadad, and as I mentioned mold grew quickly. For Bill's first buy, I thought I made sure to add enough ventilation but same problem and mold grew. I was checking them often so I did not lose plants to mold on that round.
I kept my plants on heat mats and used a diffuser for humidity and initially got several leaves to grow, but challenges came when I took them off the heat and turned off the diffuser. So I learned they really need to transition slowly to give time to acclimate to different conditions.
For soil and fertilization, I recommend using any fertilizer in diluted strength and test on one plant only. I was really surprised that one of my plants that I thought was growing well died after feeding with beneficial soil microorganisms and mycorrhizae.
One of the challenges with soil mix containing peat and/or wood products (pine bark, aged or composted forest products) contained in most bagged potting soil is that once it gets too dry it will become hydrophobic and will not absorb water. I did an experiment where I filled a container with dried peat on the bottom half and peat that was soaking in water for several hours on the top. After several waterings the bottom half remained dry. This may not be an issue for areas that get consistent rain, but for me in SoCal, it matters a lot. So I recommend adding something to your growing medium that absorbs water so you know your containers are absorbing water readily. I use finely ground coir that has been rinsed of salts and pH balanced, crushed granite or course sand. I also, add pumice, kanuma, and kiryu to acidify and aid air flow.
I received my plants in the mail on Monday and they looked pretty dry and somewhat shriveled. I cut off all the damaged roots and trimmed the branches to live growth and only sealed the ends of the cuts with buddy tape. Soaked the roots in seaweed and fertilizer with micronutrients and planted them. Then I filled a sprayer with rainwater, seaweed extract, humic substances, and AEA's planter solution. I misted all the branches every hour or so the first day and I will continue to mist them a couple of times a day. This morning the plants are looking way better and the branches aren't shriveled anymore. I am not covering my trees with buddy tape because I want to be able to consistently spray the branches to feed and hydrate until they develop a strong enough root system to take up water and nutrients through their roots.
I have my trees outside amongst ferns, palm trees, and other potted plants to protect them and provide humidity. Bill sent me pics of trees he planted directly into the ground on the recommendation of his friend and they are growing fine. He gets a lot colder than me, so I'm just keeping them outside to make less work for myself and hopefully less stress on the trees because I won't have to move them. Besides, I have all my heat mats and grow tents inside taken up with other plants.
Janet
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Couple of my trees from last group buy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xqgj9VBx/8-EE104-B1-9-D9-D-4690-95-C7-8-DBE7-CA8-BC13.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqgj9VBx)
Janet
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tru, I hope your're right about yangmei and lychees. I have a very strong growing lychee tree which gives lots of fruits, I think I will plant a few of these yangmei in ground next to it.
Please don't take my word alone because there are people here with tons more experience, according to May 2021 thread people are saying that yangmei have very low salt tolerance & grow in a region with soil pH of 4-6, just like lychees
I don't wanna give false hope, does seem like things are adding up though!
Janet they are beautiful!!!!!
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I think yellow soil may be fancy talk for high iron content -- Lychees and Yangmei grow prolifically along the same Yangtze river, lychees are infamously known for their low pH requirements/high iron needs?
I'd treat it like a lychee and see what happens, yangmei even shares all 4 provinces of china that lychees are found in!
We have relatively high Ph here in San Diego and my lychees grow just fine on "city water" about 7.5, the only variety that I have that likes 5.5-6.5 Ph is the "Emperor variety. I also have real good mulch from the dropped leaves and the leaves are all nice and green.
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Lets see if we can get any to survive!, will remove the buddy tape as soon as I see any buds swell. I know many will die off so im setting expectations low, but If I can have a few females and a few males survive a couple years, then I would consider it a win. Long road ahead
(https://i.postimg.cc/LnpLvR4g/IMG-2293.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LnpLvR4g)
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Wow, that’s a lot of plants you have there. Good luck with them! You’ve got an awesome looking setup!
Simon
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yeah the GH looks slick thesimsdude
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First signs of budding on the Female An Hai
(https://i.postimg.cc/4Kqjs5m1/765-C9898-5902-4-FFC-8-C9-D-4-B0-B023962-C6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4Kqjs5m1)
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First signs of budding on the Female An Hai
(https://i.postimg.cc/4Kqjs5m1/765-C9898-5902-4-FFC-8-C9-D-4-B0-B023962-C6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4Kqjs5m1)
you made me hop out of my desk chair and go check mine. Looks like 5 or 6 varieties of female trees will make it but not the male. Very happy and thanks for all those doling out advice
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you made me hop out of my desk chair and go check mine. Looks like 5 or 6 varieties of female trees will make it but not the male. Very happy and thanks for all those doling out advice
I’ve got about 15 or so males, don’t see any buds yet but definitely still alive, if any live I can help share scions
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you made me hop out of my desk chair and go check mine. Looks like 5 or 6 varieties of female trees will make it but not the male. Very happy and thanks for all those doling out advice
I’ve got about 15 or so males, don’t see any buds yet but definitely still alive, if any live I can help share scions
Wow, thank you. Hopefully we can work out something in the future and I wont forget
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you made me hop out of my desk chair and go check mine. Looks like 5 or 6 varieties of female trees will make it but not the male. Very happy and thanks for all those doling out advice
I’ve got about 15 or so males, don’t see any buds yet but definitely still alive, if any live I can help share scions
Are any of your males grafted? See a graft line?
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you made me hop out of my desk chair and go check mine. Looks like 5 or 6 varieties of female trees will make it but not the male. Very happy and thanks for all those doling out advice
I’ve got about 15 or so males, don’t see any buds yet but definitely still alive, if any live I can help share scions
Are any of your males grafted? See a graft line?
I believe a few are, hard to tell because more than half the labels of my trees fell off in transit and it’s a guessing game on most of them :( that said, I have a few that are grafted and labeled as male. I hope they make it.
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you made me hop out of my desk chair and go check mine. Looks like 5 or 6 varieties of female trees will make it but not the male. Very happy and thanks for all those doling out advice
I’ve got about 15 or so males, don’t see any buds yet but definitely still alive, if any live I can help share scions
Are any of your males grafted? See a graft line?
I believe a few are, hard to tell because more than half the labels of my trees fell off in transit and it’s a guessing game on most of them :( that said, I have a few that are grafted and labeled as male. I hope they make it.
Same here LOL. If mine grow it'll either be biqi or wusu. All my males were seedlings. In the end it doesn't matter seedling or grafted, but seedling trees could be 50/50 chance for male so its a waiting game or DNA test time.
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Nice thesimsdude!
I am a bit worried about Joe's comments in the previous video touring his place about trees that flush early (namely that they seem to die back and early flushes are a "last gasp") but you should have some grafting material at a minimum-
My tips are staying green over here and have some hope for new growth but hard to tell if I have anything like what you are showing under the parafilm
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Wow! Yeah, I think I see buds on my Biqi - the biggest tree I received.
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Nice thesimsdude!
I am a bit worried about Joe's comments in the previous video touring his place about trees that flush early (namely that they seem to die back and early flushes are a "last gasp") but you should have some grafting material at a minimum-
My tips are staying green over here and have some hope for new growth but hard to tell if I have anything like what you are showing under the parafilm
Yeah I saw that and am worried about it as well, I tried soaking them in rotting hormone water mixture, I guess I may just use a very small amount over the course of a few weeks on them, who knows, we will see what happens
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I think as long as you maintain high humidity and keep shaded, the buds and new growth can continue to grow fine. It's like when new cuttings send out leaves before they have had a chance to grow roots. I mist with a very diluted spray of seaweed so they can absorb some nutrients through their bark and leaves.
I had a couple plants leaf out pretty quickly last time and they continued to grow into healthy plants. I don't remember having plants that took months to start growing buds and leaves like Joe.
Janet
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I think as long as you maintain high humidity and keep shaded, the buds and new growth can continue to grow fine. It's like when new cuttings send out leaves before they have had a chance to grow roots. I mist with a very diluted spray of seaweed so they can absorb some nutrients through their bark and leaves.
I had a couple plants leaf out pretty quickly last time and they continued to grow into healthy plants. I don't remember having plants that took months to start growing buds and leaves like Joe.
Janet
This is great info- thanks Janet
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Here is an informative article from Australia. In the longest section under questions at the end, the nursery says they "have no trouble growing them from cuttings" and elsewhere they mention some trees will be both male and female.
https://stfc.org.au/articles/myrica-rubra-the-red-bayberry-2/
Janet
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Here is an informative article from Australia. In the longest section under questions at the end, the nursery says they "have no trouble growing them from cuttings" and elsewhere they mention some trees will be both male and female.
https://stfc.org.au/articles/myrica-rubra-the-red-bayberry-2/
Janet
Thanks for sharing that article, Janet!
I have recently heard that the growers in China do not plant males, which is also confirmed in this article.
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Yes, I just heard from my exporter that they can provides some varieties with both female and male on same tree.
In addition to the varieties we already have, we can import the following varieties in the list in future https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=50041.msg482049#msg482049
3 Wuzi
10 Extra Early Hard Silk ( female, male on same tree)
12 Extra Eearly ( female, male on same tree)
19 Pink Bayberry
22 Big Leaf
24 Wu Mei
25 ZhaoJia, Early Biqi
and Early DongKui
If you are interested in getting any of these varieties, please reach out to me in private message or my email.
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Can anyone provide some guidance as to what mold under the parafilm will look like?
Does this look like it? specifically the dark banded portions
(https://i.postimg.cc/xqWB2LrH/0131231236.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqWB2LrH)
On a more positive note I think I am seeing some growth on one of my crystal
(https://i.postimg.cc/PpCFG522/signal-2023-01-31-07-27-41-262.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpCFG522)
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Can anyone provide some guidance as to what mold under the parafilm will look like?
Does this look like it? specifically the dark banded portions
(https://i.postimg.cc/xqWB2LrH/0131231236.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqWB2LrH)
On a more positive note I think I am seeing some growth on one of my crystal
(https://i.postimg.cc/PpCFG522/signal-2023-01-31-07-27-41-262.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpCFG522)
Looks fine to me, although I would take off the grafting tape now that you see buds swelling
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Here is an informative article from Australia. In the longest section under questions at the end, the nursery says they "have no trouble growing them from cuttings" and elsewhere they mention some trees will be both male and female.
https://stfc.org.au/articles/myrica-rubra-the-red-bayberry-2/
Janet
Interesting read. I wonder how accurate this statement is-"If this fruit is not matured at high humidity it has a prickly mouth feel" I wouldn't think anywhere in San Diego county is considered high humidity.
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Can anyone provide some guidance as to what mold under the parafilm will look like?
Does this look like it? specifically the dark banded portions
(https://i.postimg.cc/xqWB2LrH/0131231236.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xqWB2LrH)
On a more positive note I think I am seeing some growth on one of my crystal
(https://i.postimg.cc/PpCFG522/signal-2023-01-31-07-27-41-262.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PpCFG522)
Looks fine to me, although I would take off the grafting tape now that you see buds swelling
I'm hesitant to take the wrap off unless there is mold...
No gh here and the bay is not known for being moist
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So does anyone have a verdict on when to unwrap?
I have some buds pushing growth now- but no method of humidity control otherwise
(https://i.postimg.cc/4KkMGtvw/0204230833-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4KkMGtvw)
I unwrapped here because i was worried about that leaf browning
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z98Q5RVm/0204230839-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z98Q5RVm)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kR4Ysy9M/0204230833a-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kR4Ysy9M)
(https://i.postimg.cc/14Cjtbc8/0204230839.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14Cjtbc8)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ppm1nkqq/0204230834-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ppm1nkqq)
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Looks like you have some viable buds beneath the tape. With the branch unwrapped, make sure to keep the humidity high. I don’t wrap my trees anymore, I just keep them in high humidity to prevent them from drying out.
Simon
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So does anyone have a verdict on when to unwrap?
I have some buds pushing growth now- but no method of humidity control otherwise
(https://i.postimg.cc/4KkMGtvw/0204230833-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4KkMGtvw)
I unwrapped here because i was worried about that leaf browning
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z98Q5RVm/0204230839-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z98Q5RVm)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kR4Ysy9M/0204230833a-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kR4Ysy9M)
(https://i.postimg.cc/14Cjtbc8/0204230839.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14Cjtbc8)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ppm1nkqq/0204230834-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ppm1nkqq)
I let the buds push through the tape. Tree was fine. Then removed the tape after the sun broke it down many months later. I’m not sure about buddy tape? The buds are meant to grow through too though so should be fine? Any other thoughts?
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The tape stays!
thanks all- things are looking good at the moment but I am wary of mold or anything sending them downhill
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UH OH GUYS, I see a weird type of infection on some of the trees I’ve never seen before, looks like fungus or spores growing all through the buddy tape on a few trees, take a look, I’m going to cut them down to the rootstock and burn them
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yjm9hR7w/1-BAF32-BF-DC45-4211-ABF5-84-CDC7-FA882-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yjm9hR7w)
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UH OH GUYS, I see a weird type of infection on some of the trees I’ve never seen before, looks like fungus or spores growing all through the buddy tape on a few trees, take a look, I’m going to cut them down to the rootstock and burn them
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yjm9hR7w/1-BAF32-BF-DC45-4211-ABF5-84-CDC7-FA882-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yjm9hR7w)
Isn't that just mold? That tree is dead then...Just what happens to dead wood?
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UH OH GUYS, I see a weird type of infection on some of the trees I’ve never seen before, looks like fungus or spores growing all through the buddy tape on a few trees, take a look, I’m going to cut them down to the rootstock and burn them
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yjm9hR7w/1-BAF32-BF-DC45-4211-ABF5-84-CDC7-FA882-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yjm9hR7w)
Isn't that just mold? That tree is dead then...Just what happens to dead wood?
It wasn’t dead a few days ago, looked like rapid decline, I hope it’s just dead and fungal growth emerging but don’t want any spores to spread. Better safe than sorry
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thesimsdude post made me worried- and the darker spots under the parafilm referenced earlier was beginning to spread to I unwrapped and it looks like some mold may have taken root
(https://i.postimg.cc/zLmCQXJm/0205230827-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLmCQXJm)
So what to do? cut it off? I am a bit hesitant because there is nodes pushing on this branch- that said there are other healthy branches pushing too.
I also have this product called Cavicide- which is approved by the EPA
CaviCide is a hospital-grade, ready-to-use multipurpose disinfectant and cleanser, and it is approved by the EPA.
and is an incredibly effective broad treatment that I could dab on the affected area-
This broad-spectrum intermediate-level surface disinfectant has the power to kill tuberculosis, viruses, fungi, and bacteria within minutes.
I have unwrapped the affected areas to drop the RH in the immediate
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Hydrogen peroxide spray or dunk to kill the mold?
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Elocious, when I saw buds and unwrapped one of the trees with buds on it, it immediately started to loose moisture and die back, maybe my humidity wasn’t high enough, although it was around 60-70% humidity and filtered sunlight, I’m leaving the tape on for now and will remove when leaves and roots develop.
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I've kept mine in the sun to not let mold form. Of course sun here is weaker than soCAl so take precautions.
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thesimsdude post made me worried- and the darker spots under the parafilm referenced earlier was beginning to spread to I unwrapped and it looks like some mold may have taken root
(https://i.postimg.cc/zLmCQXJm/0205230827-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLmCQXJm)
So what to do? cut it off? I am a bit hesitant because there is nodes pushing on this branch- that said there are other healthy branches pushing too.
I also have this product called Cavicide- which is approved by the EPA
CaviCide is a hospital-grade, ready-to-use multipurpose disinfectant and cleanser, and it is approved by the EPA.
and is an incredibly effective broad treatment that I could dab on the affected area-
This broad-spectrum intermediate-level surface disinfectant has the power to kill tuberculosis, viruses, fungi, and bacteria within minutes.
I have unwrapped the affected areas to drop the RH in the immediate
Elouicious,
those buds look promising. Keep us updated on your course of action.
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I've kept mine in the sun to not let mold form. Of course sun here is weaker than soCAl so take precautions.
Sunlight is the best medicine!
20 mins today for the affected trees
UH OH GUYS, I see a weird type of infection on some of the trees I’ve never seen before, looks like fungus or spores growing all through the buddy tape on a few trees, take a look, I’m going to cut them down to the rootstock and burn them
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yjm9hR7w/1-BAF32-BF-DC45-4211-ABF5-84-CDC7-FA882-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yjm9hR7w)
Isn't that just mold? That tree is dead then...Just what happens to dead wood?
It wasn’t dead a few days ago, looked like rapid decline, I hope it’s just dead and fungal growth emerging but don’t want any spores to spread. Better safe than sorry
FWIW mine looks different than this, the RH should be near 100 with the tape jobs I did-
I have a bottle of dilute peroxide at the ready as well, Thanks Jonah!
on the plus side Crystal is looking good and the first to make it through the tape on its own- to expand on a note I previously read somewhere, it seems like the trees with the fewest branches are pushing the quickest, I dont know if I would go as far as removing other branches but it is an interesting observation
(https://i.postimg.cc/D84cny2z/0205231037-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D84cny2z)
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might be a weird request but could I get a closeup? I have a mold nerd friend that may possibly be of help
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Elouicious,
those buds look promising. Keep us updated on your course of action.
Thanks Jabo, All my trees are looking like that now- one advantage of my new living arrangement is I have no space and way less plants so each one gets more attention- also my and the groups previous failures
might be a weird request but could I get a closeup? I have a mold nerd friend that may possibly be of help
not sure I can get more of a closeup than that but I will try-
looks to be of the white powdery variety, also if you click on the image (once to open the link and then click again) you can see a pretty zoomed in version
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small update-
I made a knick in the bark because I was worried about the dark spots and it was a brilliant green underneath-
(https://i.postimg.cc/WtC32JSz/0208230742-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WtC32JSz)
I have also been placing them outside for ~5-6 hours in the shade now in the hope that some fresh air will do the (now exposed) dark spots some good and it appears the new buds are tolerating it alright-
(https://i.postimg.cc/XXCWk1cN/0208230743a-HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXCWk1cN)
Crystal is still the quickest pusher so far with some nice leaves coming through now
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I have five (4F+1M) trees. Four of them have started to leaf out. They are in 1 gallon bags with HP Pro mix. They are under a grow light/large plastic bag in my garage for now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ft2SbybB/IMG-3048.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ft2SbybB)
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I have five (4F+1M) trees. Four of them have started to leaf out. They are in 1 gallon bags with HP Pro mix. They are under a grow light/large plastic bag in my garage for now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ft2SbybB/IMG-3048.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ft2SbybB)
Congrats! Once they start to leaf out, as long as they're not over watered, you're basically in the clear. What varieties did you get?
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I have five (4F+1M) trees. Four of them have started to leaf out. They are in 1 gallon bags with HP Pro mix. They are under a grow light/large plastic bag in my garage for now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ft2SbybB/IMG-3048.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ft2SbybB)
Congrats! Once they start to leaf out, as long as they're not over watered, you're basically in the clear. What varieties did you get?
I would disagree. Leaves do not mean roots. It means stored energy.
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Will keep fingers crossed then :-).
I got Biqi, Anhai, Black crystal, WuSu (replacement as Bill ran out of DongKui by the time I got to his home to pick up the trees)
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I have five (4F+1M) trees. Four of them have started to leaf out. They are in 1 gallon bags with HP Pro mix. They are under a grow light/large plastic bag in my garage for now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ft2SbybB/IMG-3048.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ft2SbybB)
Congrats! Once they start to leaf out, as long as they're not over watered, you're basically in the clear. What varieties did you get?
I would disagree. Leaves do not mean roots. It means stored energy.
Fair enough. But all mine that threw early leaves grew. It means the tree recovered and is building roots. I’ve don’t think the trees have enough energy to push if the roots don’t grow. Anyways, you’ll see as the buds can have rapid dieback. But you’re right probably got too excited.
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I have five (4F+1M) trees. Four of them have started to leaf out. They are in 1 gallon bags with HP Pro mix. They are under a grow light/large plastic bag in my garage for now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ft2SbybB/IMG-3048.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ft2SbybB)
Congrats! Once they start to leaf out, as long as they're not over watered, you're basically in the clear. What varieties did you get?
I would disagree. Leaves do not mean roots. It means stored energy.
Fair enough. But all mine that threw early leaves grew. It means the tree recovered and is building roots. I’ve don’t think the trees have enough energy to push if the roots don’t grow. Anyways, you’ll see as the buds can have rapid dieback. But you’re right probably got too excited.
It's definitely not a bad sign, but I would not say you're in the clear if anything is pushing leaves. I have cuttings push leaves all the time and then don't root and die. I have grafted scions push leaves, but don't heal and die.
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I did see the same thing with the small buds/leaves in the 2nd order, then all of them died.
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would these yangmei that we have benefit from a mycorhizae innoculant added to the soil?
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would these yangmei that we have benefit from a mycorhizae innoculant added to the soil?
It definitely can't hurt.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/svvRqxsx/A7-C1-ED3-A-CEB4-46-D4-9925-1-F622-A42848-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svvRqxsx)
Not in the Clear yet, but these look promising!
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(https://i.postimg.cc/6T6GNC1b/B0-C450-E2-7791-44-A7-A89-A-3032-FA53-A84-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6T6GNC1b)
(https://i.postimg.cc/JthtFMG9/F8142162-749-E-4566-A04-A-E2161020637-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JthtFMG9)
Here’s why the scratch test isn’t the best with bare root trees.
Trunk still green, but all the roots are shriveled and dead. Not gonna grow.
When the trees came, the roots were already wrecked. Really hard to get to grow again even with right care. Tree will then die back from the tips.
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I notice that my trees also have very few roots, on average 2 root branches. I wonder if the seller pruned the roots too much. I also wonder if the roots would have a better chance to not dry out if we request the seller to place the tree in clear plastic bags. That way, the roots are partially protected for a short trip to the US from China and it would not impede agriculture inspection. Just a thought.
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I notice that my trees also have very few roots, on average 2 root branches. I wonder if the seller pruned the roots too much. I also wonder if the roots would have a better chance to not dry out if we request the seller to place the tree in clear plastic bags. That way, the roots are partially protected for a short trip to the US from China and it would not impede agriculture inspection. Just a thought.
Wet roots + sealed plastic = mold.
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Mine finally start to bud it seems, all six of them. Will post pictures in a few days if I see anything green. For those who are still waiting, don't give up just yet. FYI, I never put the pots indoors. It's been outside with plastic overhead cover since day one, going through all the storms we had in the bay area.
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Hey! I'm taking statistics class right now and it's always cool to see how data and stuff works.
I've made a short survey about your success rates on this yangmei order. This is to help benefit the community for future group buys - we will see what techniques led to the best turnout of success. Individual data will not be shared, sold, or distributed ;). This means that we will not know that Jaboticaba45 got 5 and lost all 5... Only the data as a whole will be presented right back to the forum to further the yangmei quest. Based off the data, we may be able to draw conclusions on how to better revive bareroot yangmei.
Here's the link to the survey -
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScxHkYHM6yxp33tqOrZmY_7tDbhNI3dbv1BHoT3kTPBRpoXqw/viewform?usp=sf_link
If you have any questions, please let me know!
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Hi all, I've been trying to find a couple of these trees for two years. I can't believe I missed out on the group buy again. :(
Does anyone know where I can get a couple without waiting another year? I have been stratifying some seeds for a few months but forgot to add water. Ugh!
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Hi all, I've been trying to find a couple of these trees for two years. I can't believe I missed out on the group buy again. :(
Does anyone know where I can get a couple without waiting another year? I have been stratifying some seeds for a few months but forgot to add water. Ugh!
Myself and others are grafting trees. If you want one now, Revivalroots has some for sale.
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Hi all, I've been trying to find a couple of these trees for two years. I can't believe I missed out on the group buy again. :(
Does anyone know where I can get a couple without waiting another year? I have been stratifying some seeds for a few months but forgot to add water. Ugh!
Myself and others are grafting trees. If you want one now, Revivalroots has some for sale.
Thanks for the referral!
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Hi all, I've been trying to find a couple of these trees for two years. I can't believe I missed out on the group buy again. :(
Does anyone know where I can get a couple without waiting another year? I have been stratifying some seeds for a few months but forgot to add water. Ugh!
PM me. I have about 7 available. All established and growing.
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Wondering if I can recruit some help from those who ordered on the last group order from China that Bill spearheaded. I bought 20 yangmei and left the tags on them with the intent of labeling them with more permanent labels once/if they showed signs of life. Now that I am ready to label some I see that some of the labels don't make sense. I know I didnt receive all the varieties I ordered and received some varieties I did not order. Any idea what the following tags may stand for:
CR (Crystal?)
CRM (Crystal Male?)
BQM (Biqi Male?)
SW ?
Thanks in advance!
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Items Type
1 WuSu
2 Biqi
3 Crystal
4 Late Growing
5 Dongkui
6 Black Crystal
7 An Hai
8 BQ- Male
9 LG- Male
10 CR-Male
11 DK- Male
12 An Hai - Male
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I repotted my last year ordered, the roots are looking good.
(https://i.ibb.co/Vgbs91F/PXL-20230405-223045445.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X76qLQn)
(https://i.ibb.co/3B8tdMW/PXL-20230405-222239079.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WgdS5PF)
(https://i.ibb.co/HCtB4N1/PXL-20230405-222231957.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qCN7j0X)
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I repotted my last year ordered, the roots are looking good.
(https://i.ibb.co/Vgbs91F/PXL-20230405-223045445.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X76qLQn)
(https://i.ibb.co/3B8tdMW/PXL-20230405-222239079.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WgdS5PF)
(https://i.ibb.co/HCtB4N1/PXL-20230405-222231957.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qCN7j0X)
Nicely done! Which one is it? Which group order is it from, the one with RKN?
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It is from the 2rd ordered of last year.
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It is from the 2rd ordered of last year.
Wasn't that December 2022/ January 2023?
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It is from the 2rd ordered of last year.
Wasn't that December 2022/ January 2023?
No, this one is in the beginning of 2022. There were 2 orders made in the beginning of 2022.
I only ordered DongKui for this year order
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It is from the 2rd ordered of last year.
Nice! All of mine from that order bit the dust unfortunately. 10 plants i think. Maybe in some years when it's more common I'll jump back on the bandwagon ahah.
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Folks,
I have some scions of varieties:
Dongkui(#1), Crystal (#18), Deep Red (#20), and Pink Bayberry(#19) all of them were cut from well established Yangmei trees 2 or 3 days ago and in about 5 inches long. The price is $15 each.
Also some small amount of Biqi (#4).
If you are interested, please send me email biaozhang@hotmail.com
Regards,
Bill
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Updated a couple of varieties for scions.
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No Biqi and Deep Red now.
Still have Small amount of Dongkui, Crystal, and Pink Bayberry
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False hope, all dead. Guess I'd have to try it again next year. Overhead cover is not good enough.
Mine finally start to bud it seems, all six of them. Will post pictures in a few days if I see anything green. For those who are still waiting, don't give up just yet. FYI, I never put the pots indoors. It's been outside with plastic overhead cover since day one, going through all the storms we had in the bay area.