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Citrus => Citrus General Discussion => Topic started by: fruitree on October 21, 2022, 04:40:53 AM
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Include orange, mandarin orange, tangerine, tangelo, clementine, what kind of all the citrus
Since most of Korea's citrus industry is concentrated on tangerine varieties origin by Japan, I have a japan-ish tooth.
such as Setoka (せとか), BeniMadonna (紅まどんな), Kanpei (甘平,カンペイ), Shiranui (Dekopon,不知火)
I just wanna know what kind of citrus is tasty in abroad.
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My supermarket in Victoria state, Australia sells Navel Oranges, Blood Oranges, about 5 types of mandarin, Minneola tangelos, Dekopon, Lemons, Limes, Red Grapefruit and occasionally imported Pummelo.
This would be the most common types available for sale to most shoppers.
Some Fruit Sellers or Markets might have a bit bigger range of Citrus, such as Lemonades, Seville, Kumquat, Kaffir Lime.
Tropical Darwin and Cairns have more types of Pummelos, also Calamondins, West Indian /Key Limes etc.
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orange, grapefruit key limes lemons that's it in Cincinnati; Ohio. They are all over priced. I grow my own New Zealand lemonades and Meiwa & Fukushu kumquats. Meiwa is best of all 3 but very difficult to grow.
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I am a fan of pomelos. The only ones sold in the US, at least in the stores in my area, are Chandler pomelos. I like strongly flavored citrus, and pomelos certainly qualify. I also enjoy Moro blood oranges, Nagami kumquats, dekopon (sold in the US under the name Sumo Citrus), white grapefruit (which I eat without sugar added), and ugli citrus (a variety of Jamaican tangelo sold under the name Uniq fruit in the US). Not all of these are easy to find in American grocery stores, particularly the latter two.
I dislike the naval oranges and mandarins that make up the vast majority of the citrus sold in the US. Commercial varieties of mandarins may be easy to peel but have had all the flavor bred out of them. Naval oranges are harder to peel but only slightly more flavorful. I seem to be in the minority among American consumers when it comes to my opinion on naval oranges and mandarins. When they are available, I purchase Valencia oranges, which still have enough flavor to be worth eating.
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There are so many flavors in citrus, you will get many answers.
I think there are strong regional variations, so what tastes best in one area may not taste so good from another, the exception being limes which I love from anywhere and are probably near the top of the list.
From Cali I most enjoy the 88-2 which has a distinct musk similar to strawberry guava, but also a chalky body. I haven't tasted Allspice tangelo though, which may trump it.
From Japan, I most enjoy the Dekopon, which has many subtle layers of flavor, but really well balanced sweetness/acidity.
That said, there are so many other great citrus out there, which may have very small areas which they really reach their potential in, so it's worth trying whatever you can get a hold of.
Being in Korea, you probably don't have access to limes as easily as elsewhere, I'd say when I was in Japan, I sought those most.
I dislike the naval oranges and mandarins that make up the vast majority of the citrus sold in the US. Commercial varieties of mandarins may be easy to peel but have had all the flavor bred out of them. Naval oranges are harder to peel but only slightly more flavorful. I seem to be in the minority among American consumers when it comes to my opinion on naval oranges and mandarins. When they are available, I purchase Valencia oranges, which still have enough flavor to be worth eating.
Definitely.
I think a lot has to do with trying to get the tree to hold enough fruit to maturity/ greatest yield/acre.
In SoCal, my favorites are Navels from trees in yards which are not watered at all, the trees drop a lot of fruit, but they are intense.
Valencias have great spiciness, they really are an undervalued fruit.
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There are so many flavors in citrus, you will get many answers.
I think there are strong regional variations, so what tastes best in one area may not taste so good from another, the exception being limes which I love from anywhere and are probably near the top of the list.
From Cali I most enjoy the 88-2 which has a distinct musk similar to strawberry guava, but also a chalky body. I haven't tasted Allspice tangelo though, which may trump it.
From Japan, I most enjoy the Dekopon, which has many subtle layers of flavor, but really well balanced sweetness/acidity.
That said, there are so many other great citrus out there, which may have very small areas which they really reach their potential in, so it's worth trying whatever you can get a hold of.
Being in Korea, you probably don't have access to limes as easily as elsewhere, I'd say when I was in Japan, I sought those most.
I dislike the naval oranges and mandarins that make up the vast majority of the citrus sold in the US. Commercial varieties of mandarins may be easy to peel but have had all the flavor bred out of them. Naval oranges are harder to peel but only slightly more flavorful. I seem to be in the minority among American consumers when it comes to my opinion on naval oranges and mandarins. When they are available, I purchase Valencia oranges, which still have enough flavor to be worth eating.
Definitely.
I think a lot has to do with trying to get the tree to hold enough fruit to maturity/ greatest yield/acre.
In SoCal, my favorites are Navels from trees in yards which are not watered at all, the trees drop a lot of fruit, but they are intense.
Valencias have great spiciness, they really are an undervalued fruit.
The California varieties you mentioned, 88-2 and Allspice tangelo, sound very interesting. I had not heard of them before. I'm definitely going to find out more about those two; they seem like they would be right up my alley.
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I discovered 88-2 at the supermarket, it was sold as supernova, and it was released shortly thereafter.
It's weakness is that it ripens right at peak citrus season, so it has to compete with perfect Washington navels.
It's originally from a breeding program in Florida and is a USDA selection, though it fruited very irregularly in Florida, it performed much better in California.
The researchers in Florida suspect that the inferior rootstocks it was trialed on in Florida were the cause. They've had very promising results with a new rootstock, so I ordered a couple trees to trial in Alabama where it's too cold for traditional sweet oranges.
Fingers crossed it does well.
I've been trying to source Allspice for a while now, but am not having success. There was a private nurseryman in San Diego who had a tree, but he sold his property a while back, and I haven't been able to confirm if the tree is still there. It's got a short season and does not hold well on the tree, and never colors up, where every other citrus in San Diego including limes do color up well, I can't imagine the new owners would ever enjoy it, it's probably a thing of the past.
Good luck, maybe if you and others petition the CCPP to add it to their offerings, it would become available in the future.
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Since I live in Alabama, I highly doubt the CCPP cares very much about whether I want them to make this citrus variety available.
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Since I live in Alabama, I highly doubt the CCPP cares very much about whether I want them to make this citrus variety available.
They do, it's based on demand, and you don't have to be in Cali to order from CCPP.
I'm in Alabama at the moment.
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In Germany in supermarkets there is a limited sortiment of citrusvarieties regarding the vast varieties of existing citrus. I think best tasting refers to ripeness and variety.
Since I' m growing citrus for myself I am able to influence both, though my climate is still not 10% ideal for citrus.
But I' m glad with my results up to now.
The best tasting varieties of mine up to know were Cocktailpomelo, Satsuma miyagawa, Fukushu Kumquat and Thomasville Citrangequat. Others like Satsuma Okitsu, Meiwa kumquat, Minneola tangelo,.... i only will be able to taste in a few months. My first chandler pomelos, Bloomsweet grapefruits,
Washington Navel and some Tangelos I still have to try again , perhaps more ripe to get more satisfied with them.
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We also get a limited selection in France (and a very poor one in Belgium, where you're lucky if you can even know what variety you buy) but I like the Tarocco blood oranges I can get here very much. I find blood oranges to be the best tasting citrus that can be eaten raw, more generally.
Despite all the hype around Corsica clémentines here (mostly because they're the main citrus production of France I guess) I really don't like them. I don't really know which precise variety they are.
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For Tarocco oranges I can 100% agree. Ate my first Taroccos from Italian market this spring, and I was overwhelmed of the melting fruit and fine aroma.
Now I have 3 plants but still no own fruits yet.
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For Tarocco oranges I can 100% agree. Ate my first Taroccos from Italian market this spring, and I was overwhelmed of the melting fruit and fine aroma.
Now I have 3 plants but still no own fruits yet.
In my case
Moro is better than Tarocco , Some Korean Jeju island farm (Korean main citrus area) selling tarocco it is not really good, on the other side moro was good from my own tree
Chandler pomelo , Moro, Sanguinello, vaniglia orange , honey bell(Minneola tangelo) were good
Avana mandarin's aroma smell was not attractive (and seedy)
Bream Tarocco, Valentine pomelo, Mandared are first bearing fruit, i am looking forward it
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Honey bell is my favorite. Tangelo.
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Hi fruitree
What can you tell us about traditional or historic Korean Citrus varieties ?
I believe there are a few long lived trees on Jeju Island.
Also some dating back from before new varieties were introduced more recently.
Any unique Korean varieties ?
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I attended two Southeastern Citrus Expositions taste testing contest for the best tasting citrus. Both of the contest named Xie Shan Satsuma as the best tasting citrus. This was done by the vote of all the attendees at each Exposition.
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Honey bell is my favorite. Tangelo.
It is good too. Thanks
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CY1hvaEqnDY/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
this is my honeybell :D
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Hi fruitree
What can you tell us about traditional or historic Korean Citrus varieties ?
I believe there are a few long lived trees on Jeju Island.
Also some dating back from before new varieties were introduced more recently.
Any unique Korean varieties ?
Theres are a lot varieties... almost traditional varieties Used for medical purposes
Below is 23's new varieties
(https://i.postimg.cc/cKQ1Dmdn/306001-41251-1417.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cKQ1Dmdn)
the name is '가을향 = autumn scent' 13.4birx , '달코미 = sweetie korean anounciation' 14.3brix
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Orlando tangelo is my favorite citrus. Very sweet and tangy and juicy. The juice from the Orlando is incredible. My coworkers would fight over the juice I took to work.
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I have read that US Seedless Surprise grapefruit is a very good tasting one. Florida research did some preliminary taste test and found that 76% preferred this one over any other grapefruit. Also 65% indicated they liked it over their favorite citrus. I have this grafted but no fruits yet so I can't comment on it yet. Also have Supernova, but no fruit yet.
One comment on the Valencia orange, I'm in CA and grow 5 different varieties of Valencia. I like the fruits because they will ripen from Jan-Nov on my different trees. So I can have fresh orange all year round. I do notice one interesting distinction on my Seedless Variegated Valencia with Yellow skin (SVVY), must be a bud mutation tree branch. The fruits from this tree has no acidic taste so it doesn't have the sweet/tart taste of most Valencia orange.
But overall, from the fruits I have tasted, the Yosemite Gold mandarin is the best tasting to me. Better than any Sumo, Satsuma, or other mandarins I have growing (19) or tasted from the store.
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I can't find anywhere online to buy a Seedless surprise grapefruit tree. Sounds like something I would love to grow.
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But overall, from the fruits I have tasted, the Yosemite Gold mandarin is the best tasting to me. Better than any Sumo, Satsuma, or other mandarins I have growing (19) or tasted from the store.
Wow, if Kaz says something like this, I might have to pick up a tree.
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It surprised me to. I didn't think it would taste so good when I read the reviews/citrus data until I ate many fruits. They were all excellent tasting. I have a few grafted on my larger Golden Nugget tree so I can't wait to get fruits on my grafts.
GFC, you can purchase the US Seedless Surprise grapefruit from the UCR CCPP budwood program.
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the Yosemite Gold mandarin is the best tasting to me. Better than any Sumo, Satsuma, or other mandarins I have growing (19) or tasted from the store.
Even better than Shasta?
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mangoba, yes even better than Shasta.
I thought from reading the reviews of the TDE mandarins, the Shasta Gold was rated the best tasting of the TDEs. But once I started eating the fruits, the results were different. I even purchase 2 Shasta trees and now have tasted 3-6 fruits in the last 2 years from my trees, and they taste good but not excellent. Maybe if the Shasta Gold graft/trees get older the fruits may get better tasting. The Yosemite Gold fruits were from an older/larger tree.
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Wow! How would you describe the difference that makes Yosemite stand out?
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I recently ordered a Page mandarin citrus tree because of its reputation as being one of the best tasting mandarin varieties. We shall see.
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Temple oranges and Minneola Tangelos.
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I really love Improved Meyer Lemons. I'm not usually a lemon fan, but they were so good I had a little straight. I didn't have the opportunity to have more because hubby and lo ate the rest quickly.
Cara Cara oranges have a nice almost floral taste. When the grocery store has them I always get several. I'm having trouble with the plant just not growing. Hopefully next year will be the year it takes off.
Meiwa kumquat (pretty sure that was the variety) is very sweet/sour and juicy. I love the taste of these.
If I could only have 3 citrus it would be these.
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The US 88-2 has so many names it's hard to keep track. I got it when it was called Lee&Nova from it's parentage. Then it was Super Nova and now it's US Superna. Next year it'll be called something else.
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I can go along with CFG and pick PAGE, as it makes the best orange juice. Cara Cara for the best fruit.
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Does anyone have a suggestion of which brands sell the best Cara Cara? Should I just bite the bullet and buy a box from Pearson Ranch? Every single one I've tried here in Canada is not only mediocre, but actively unpleasant — and I will happily choke down under-ripe minneolas and near-rotting dekopon and eagerly eat yuzu, bergamot, and citrus with intense funk out of hand. I feel like I must just be missing something! Pretty much the only thing I don't find some enjoyment in are are dry, low-acid, and under-developed blood oranges, which are insipid and grainy — and Cara Cara. Is there a critical time of year for ideal ripeness?
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I have not found a clear pattern, but I agree with you those most batches of cara cara from grocery stores are very poor, and only rarely are they good, but when they are good they are very good.
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My favorites are Cara Cara and Noble Juicy Crunch Tangerines. This was my first year trying the tangerines and I was really blown away.
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My favorites are Minneola variegated ( less acid than regular one), Dekopon, Sunbokan lemon (tastes like sweet lemonade), Meiwa sweet Kumquat and Centennial variegated (when ripe, not green, love the taste), Pineapple orange.
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Have to agree with Cara Cara and Orlando.
Many fellow AZ gardeners say Cara Cara is not as good in AZ probably due to navels being less tolerant of desert climate.
So I planted a CC under (too much) shade a few years ago. It grew very slowly and is still only 4ft tall.
It finally produced 5 oranges this year and they were surprisingly sweet and flavorful. Makes me wonder how good when the tree is full grown.
They were better than most of my full grown tree oranges under full sun. The only slight negative was they were less juicy than the other oranges.
Orlando here is very sweet, juicy and full of flavor. Like Valencia, it's great for juicing, not good for peeling. Better than Minneola by a desert mile.
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Steve, I like the Cara Cara orange, its different and tastes very good. But as you mentioned it does not have as much juice as other navel oranges I'm growing.
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That's good to know Kaz. The supermarket Cara Cara are juicier but less tasty than mine.
Tarocco is fantastic also. Sweet, tender flesh and thin section membrane, low rag and a rich blood orange taste. May be the best blood orange imo.