what are some fast bearing rarities?

[SplorKeLZ]

i want to try my hand at some of the lesser known more rare fruit, what are some that fruit fast? (and are worth it lol)

[elouicious]

In general the Genus Carica, Ribes, Passiflora and Solanum will be your friends

Also the best way to get fruit quickly is to become good at grafting, it is a long and expensive habit to get good at but well worth it in the long run

[SplorKeLZ]

In general the Genus Carica, Ribes, Passiflora and Solanum will be your friends

Also the best way to get fruit quickly is to become good at grafting, it is a long and expensive habit to get good at but well worth it in the long run

passiflora has been extremely annoying to sprout seeds unless they are fruit fresh, but they tend to be one of my favorites. also, what are some solanums that dont have that tomato-y taste?

[elouicious]

passiflora has been extremely annoying to sprout seeds unless they are fruit fresh, but they tend to be one of my favorites. also, what are some solanums that dont have that tomato-y taste?

The juice is worth the squeeze as they say- If you want to grow something easy there are a million berry varieties that will grow with minimal care in your area.

S. pachyandrum and oocarpum have been some recent highlights on the forum, with the latter being better tasting Cocona and Lulo also come to mind

[SplorKeLZ]

passiflora has been extremely annoying to sprout seeds unless they are fruit fresh, but they tend to be one of my favorites. also, what are some solanums that dont have that tomato-y taste?

The juice is worth the squeeze as they say- If you want to grow something easy there are a million berry varieties that will grow with minimal care in your area.

S. pachyandrum and oocarpum have been some recent highlights on the forum, with the latter being better tasting Cocona and Lulo also come to mind

ironically we have more space indoors than outdoors. i forgot about Lulo! i was interested in it for a minute and forgot about it. the others sound interesting too

[Jacked Fruit]

Don't know what you consider a rarity but Cattley guava was a winner for me.. bought a 4" pot and about 18 months later it had fruit (about 20 small fruits). The year after it produced copious amounts..

[palingkecil]

Are you planning to grow everything from seeds? Passiflora can bear fruit the 1st year if you grow from cuttings, exotic cherries like CORG, Suriname, etc, bear fruit right away if you buy grafted trees.
Even the red longan can bear fruit right away if you buy a 15 gallon grafted tree.
I got a 3 gallon mystery longan tree from Mimosa a month ago, the owner said it is from Hawaii but he forgot the name. That little beast is actually holding fruit in a 3 gallon pot now.
Some varieties are more precocious than others. But if you grow everything from seeds, even the ones that supposed to bear early might not do so, since the traits from the original tree could skip in seedlings.

[SplorKeLZ]

Are you planning to grow everything from seeds? Passiflora can bear fruit the 1st year if you grow from cuttings, exotic cherries like CORG, Suriname, etc, bear fruit right away if you buy grafted trees.
Even the red longan can bear fruit right away if you buy a 15 gallon grafted tree.
I got a 3 gallon mystery longan tree from Mimosa a month ago, the owner said it is from Hawaii but he forgot the name. That little beast is actually holding fruit in a 3 gallon pot now.
Some varieties are more precocious than others. But if you grow everything from seeds, even the ones that supposed to bear early might not do so, since the traits from the original tree could skip in seedlings.

i am talking about both from seeds and grafted cutting etc. there is someone selling 10 suriname cherry cuttings for 8 bucks on etsy. would that be a good idea to buy?

[K-Rimes]

If you don't have a well established surinam to graft them onto, no, it's not a good buy. Even many grafts of fruiting / flowering wood can still take 2-3 years to fruit post grafting.

[palologrower]

Poha berries
sacha inchi...technically growing for the nut.

[gnappi]

Rollinia.

Mine went from a 4'-5' stick in 2020 to 15'+ and now is in a constant state of bloom and fruiting.

[Bush2Beach]

In All of the replies to your posts, it sure seem's like people are overlooking your location , and making suggestions based on their experience in Waaaaaaay different climates. The suggestions just sound crazy to me like no one knows where Seattle is or what the climate is like. Post a picture of your hot house so people know what your working with.

[Maypop]

In All of the replies to your posts, it sure seem's like people are overlooking your location , and making suggestions based on their experience in Waaaaaaay different climates. The suggestions just sound crazy to me like no one knows where Seattle is or what the climate is like. Post a picture of your hot house so people know what your working with.

ironically we have more space indoors than outdoors.

The suggestions have not been terrible for an indoor grower. Passiflora, eugenia, and psidiums for the most part grow alright and can fruit indoors at a small size in a container. In addition to certain myrciarias those seem like the best choices here. Rollinia's been fruited indoors as well iirc (I don't know how long that took), Carica gets huge quickly and is awkward to maintain at a manageable size but has also been done (I wouldn't recommend it). Longan and uncommon Ribes I can't speak for, cocona and other Solanum I've only grown as pseudo-vegetables, starting them indoors one year and planting them outdoors next summer.
Growing tropical fruit indoors is a tall order if you're inexperienced, but if you are selective with your species/varieties, can keep your trees heavily pruned and extremely well lit, and keep an eye on their root systems and soil and water and temperature...  then I wouldn't rule out anywhere because of outdoor conditions. Time, space and money are your greatest enemies. And also ultratropicals. They will make you cry.

[Reedo]

Another vote for Poha / Cape Gooseberries. Cherimoyas and some of the other Annonas seem to fruit in ~3 years. Guavas fruit pretty quickly too. Mulberries fruit very quickly when grafted onto established rootstock. Rooted cuttings of figs can fruit in 0-2 years.

[Bush2Beach]

I agree all Myrtacea are your best bet. Psidium , Eugenia, Plinia can all be fruited in a pot and overwintered in a heated “mini greenhouse” .

Longan and Rollinia, no way.
It takes Cherimoya 2 years to get to graftable size and then at least 2 years of growth ok the scion to fruit , more like 4-5 in my experience.

Guava’s are pretty easy but they ripen in winter early spring , so how you gonna get them heat to ripen and keep them from brown spot rotting out. I removed all mine from in ground and greenhouse.
Maybe a smaller kind like Striatulum that fruits at a smaller size and make smaller fruits.

Solanum’s need carpenter bee’s or high frequency diddling to pollinate. Never got Lulo to fruit after many rounds of trying greenhouse and outdoors 800 miles south of you. Poha’s always got mited or bugged out in the ghouse, grow like a weed outdoors , not a bad or costly on to try.

Figs in a greenhouse? Maybe not sure I have heard of anyone succeeding with that, could definitely keep them small enough.
Mullberry have a huge root system that by the time they are ready to fruit in a 15 gallon they’ll have more roots than soil in the pot and be hard to get enough water on and I rarely got enough heat to ripen them properly close in the fog zone. Reed is about 10 degree’s warmer and is successful with mulberries and figs where I can’t fruit them at all.
 
Passiflora , how does that get to fruiting size without blocking light to everything else in the mini greenhouse. Passiflora Mollisima “banana” is inedible in my opinion . Frederick if anything.

Sacha inchi, has anyone fruited that in Cali, much less 800 miles north?

Why are you asking about Surinam cuttings when you have nothing to graft them onto? 

Ribes is a good suggestion.
Carica most people don’t like Babaco & mountain papaya but they look cool.

Why not just order all the weird stuff from Raintree or one green world, nurseries located in your area that cater more to your growing conditions.

[brian]

Guava (pink, guajava) has been a great container fruit for me.  I don't remember when the fruit typically matures but I think it is normally during summer for me?  This is what they look like right now in July:




Sacha inchi is a giant vigorous vine, I definitely suggest against that one.  I grew one briefly but it didn't set many fruits and grew way too fast.  https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=52045.0