Author Topic: Grumichama (Read 43695 times)

tropical66 · « **on:** July 15, 2012, 01:50:24 AM »

Opinion and method from all the member here...how to plant Grumichama (Eugenia Brasiliensis) ... Please.

1. How to germinate grumichama seed
2. How to fertilize

Thanks in advance,

Faezal

Gouralata · « **Reply #1 on:** July 15, 2012, 04:24:36 AM »

Selamat malam !

There is no problem with Eugenia brasiliensis. They just need a lot of rain while they are in production. But I'm not sure the Malaysian climate is OK for it. I think this species need a short cold (<20°C) season to grow well. If you don't have seeds I can send you some in the end of the year.

Gouralata (Reunion Island)

Mike T · « **Reply #2 on:** July 15, 2012, 06:23:27 AM »

Carpets of seedlings come up under yellow gramichama and this species seems to thrive on neglect.They fruit several times a year and sudden rain after a dry spell seems to trigger flowering in the hottest or coolest times.

tropical66 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 15, 2012, 07:56:45 AM »

Thanks Gouralata and Mike T for the very useful information.

Faezal

Hollywood · « **Reply #4 on:** July 15, 2012, 08:22:49 AM »

My understanding is that grumichama seed need to be planted asap to get a decent germination rate. I would also soak overnight and nick with a file.

phantomcrab · « **Reply #5 on:** July 15, 2012, 11:00:30 AM »

Here is a link to the Purdue University online copy of Julia Morton's book on tropical fruit. It should answer your questions about grumichama.
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/morton/grumichama.html
Oscar keeps a listing of botanical web links at fruitlovers.com.
This forum also has an online library of links.

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #6 on:** July 15, 2012, 01:32:48 PM »

they hate alkaline soil...and leaf cuttings work well for this highly variable species!

try to pick a winner! some taste plum bland

Mike T · « **Reply #7 on:** July 15, 2012, 03:53:01 PM »

Seeds can last a fair while if those that sit under my plant are any guide.It took 2 years to begin fruiting and has larger and sweeter fruit than standard yellows and crops most heavily in winter.I have noticed there is considerable variation in fruit characteristics in this species and trees can be kept below 6 feet with pruning.

Mike T · « **Reply #8 on:** July 16, 2012, 03:44:03 AM »

There is not holding back this yellow it is always bustin' loose and flowering again.

fruitlovers · « **Reply #9 on:** July 16, 2012, 03:59:00 AM »

Quote from: Gouralata on July 15, 2012, 04:24:36 AM

Selamat malam !

There is no problem with Eugenia brasiliensis. They just need a lot of rain while they are in production. But I'm not sure the Malaysian climate is OK for it. I think this species need a short cold (<20°C) season to grow well. If you don't have seeds I can send you some in the end of the year.

Gouralata (Reunion Island)

Grumichama does not need cold temperatures to flower or fruit. Mike is right and the seeds can keep for a long time, just like seeds of surinam, with just a bit of moisture. It is a very easy plant to grow and will start fruiting when quite small. From seed usually in 3 years or less. BTW, the yellow fruited one is a different subspecies than the purple and red.

siafu · « **Reply #10 on:** July 16, 2012, 05:47:00 AM »

Easy to grow, unless one has alkaline soil/water. Then, it is looks sickly all the time.

Jackfruitwhisperer69 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:25:35 AM »

Hi,
I'm growing 3 Grumixamas...one in the ground(variegated) and two normal ones in 25 gal pots...they are growing very nicely and always busy flushing new growth...

Eugenia's are bullet proof for mailing them seeds...some take a month to germinate and others take a bit longer

here's one seedling that is growing in a 25 gal pot...the soil is very high in organic material...which they luv and also get a good amount of water

stressbaby · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:27:01 AM »

Any tricks to getting this bad boy to flower?

I have a 7 foot purple variety which I've had for several years, in the ground in the GH. It has 3 trunks and a good growth rate but not a single flower. I'm growing impatient.

Jackfruitwhisperer69 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:36:02 AM »

Quote from: stressbaby on July 16, 2012, 08:27:01 AM

Any tricks to getting this bad boy to flower?

I have a 7 foot purple variety which I've had for several years, in the ground in the GH. It has 3 trunks and a good growth rate but not a single flower. I'm growing impatient.

Hi StressB,
You should have started savouring them fruits by now

What about a good dose of water(often) and potassium fert. or a foliar spray containing potassium...maybe, both?...should help the Grumixama to flower.

Mike T · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2012, 08:56:22 AM »

My method was to plant it where the wind howls in full sun and never water or fertilize it.I hack it back to 4 feet tall and this kind of abuse and neglect seems to stimulate it.

Tomas · « **Reply #15 on:** July 16, 2012, 12:50:05 PM »

I have heard that birds don't eat the yellow grumichama as much as the regular purple one. Is that true?

Tomas

lkailburn · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2012, 12:55:28 PM »

Shame there is so much variation in seedlings, I'd love to get some seeds of the yellow variety to grow but not be worth the trouble.

-Luke

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #17 on:** July 16, 2012, 01:01:00 PM »

Quote from: Tomas on July 16, 2012, 12:50:05 PM

I have heard that birds don't eat the yellow grumichama as much as the regular purple one. Is that true?

Tomas

birds see ultra violet light, unlike humans. and red/blue/purple/black fruits are a most conspicuos color..unlike greens and yellows which are less attractive.

Mike T · « **Reply #18 on:** July 16, 2012, 03:12:03 PM »

Many fruits that try and attract bird seed dispersers are yellow.They tank up on my yellows.

tropical66 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 16, 2012, 10:36:34 PM »

Quote from: ASaffron on July 15, 2012, 01:32:48 PM

they hate alkaline soil...and leaf cuttings work well for this highly variable species!

try to pick a winner! some taste plum bland

Amazing!, tell us more about it......the leaf cutting technique...please, especially your experience.

Faezal

tropical66 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 21, 2012, 12:17:56 AM »

Hi All,

Any new input and technique about planting grumichama.....share it please!

regards

Faezal

luc · « **Reply #21 on:** July 21, 2012, 08:02:16 PM »

Is there any difference in taste between the black and the yellow ? Years ago I ordered the yellow form ....they all turned out black . So now I am stuck with 8 fruiting black Grumichama ( not really complaining )

fruitlovers · « **Reply #22 on:** July 21, 2012, 09:18:37 PM »

Quote from: luc on July 21, 2012, 08:02:16 PM

Is there any difference in taste between the black and the yellow ? Years ago I ordered the yellow form ....they all turned out black . So now I am stuck with 8 fruiting black Grumichama ( not really complaining )

Yes there is a difference but it's very slight. If you got purples then they were crossed, not really yellow. Yellow is a different subspecies but can cross with the purple.

Mike T · « **Reply #23 on:** July 21, 2012, 09:18:45 PM »

Luc yellow ones are larger,sweeter and a much better fruit.I had one of each until they fruited at the same time and I decided the passenger had to vacate.Hang on the yellow has flowers now,I'll be back in a minute.

To be honest I have found there is variation in both but some some yellow are the next level up in productivity an fruit quality.

tropical66 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 22, 2012, 05:55:49 AM »

Quote from: Mike T on July 21, 2012, 09:18:45 PM

Luc yellow ones are larger,sweeter and a much better fruit.I had one of each until they fruited at the same time and I decided the passenger had to vacate.Hang on the yellow has flowers now,I'll be back in a minute.

To be honest I have found there is variation in both but some some yellow are the next level up in productivity an fruit quality.

What a nice plant.......

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