Grumichama

[TREESNMORE]

Yes the large tree in the field fruits every year in the spring got over 300 fruit one year. we save the seed it flowerd in the fall twice but did not hold much fruit. I fertilize in the field four times spring thur summer. dont fertilze nov thur feb  dont want any tender growth for winter

[Recher]

My understanding is that grumichama seed need to be planted asap to get a decent germination rate. I would also soak overnight and nick with a file.

EGHADS DO NOT NICK ANY EUGENIA SEED

My first ever grumi was a heavy fruiter in hilo hawaii

i love them  i have 8 x  20-35 year old fruiting trees and they all taste the same... like a mild blueberry


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[Hollywood]

Recher - Do you have any general rules of thumb for when and how to soak/nick/scarify? My germination techniques could use improvement, so I would certainly appreciate the guidance.

[luc]

 @Hollywood ,

I got Grumichama seeds from Paul Recher's trees , they arrived after 30 plus days kinda dehydrated , soaked them in water overnight , planted ...that's it...

[Recher]

Recher - Do you have any general rules of thumb for when and how to soak/nick/scarify? My germination techniques could use improvement, so I would certainly appreciate the guidance.

To require scarification /nicking the seed must have an impervious seed coat. In other words 'soft' seeds like Eugenia, Garcinia obviously no nicking.

okay hard shell... well Annona and Pouterias have a hard shell but don't need nicking so any guides to hrs shelled seed differentiation. Nothing definite but if the species comes form a year round climate of precipitation the seeds are far less likely to need nicking. Scarification is to trick nature. Dry climate seeds with hard shells more likely. Some genera arecmore likely like Leguminacea to require nicking

[TREESNMORE]

I think this large cherry is a keeper also found some yellow fruit.I will post on the nursery list under TreesNmore

[Cookie Monster]

I have a grumichama that's probably 15 to 20 years old. I really like it. It requires little to no maintenance (I've never ever fertilized it.) The wood is tougher than steel. At 20 foot tall, it took wilma's beating  without losing a branch. It grows straight up in the air like a telephone pole, so it fits in nicely in tight spaces. Given the vertical growth and super strong wood, you could almost use it as a wind break (if you have the patience to wait for it to grow to 20 foot tall :-). The only drawback is that it's does seem to like a lot of water. When mine goes 2 weeks without rain, the leaves will start to droop. The fruit will also get worms if you let it sit on the tree long enough. But, it's nice that it fruits in April, when not much else is available.

[HMHausman]

I have a grumichama that's probably 15 to 20 years old. I really like it. It requires little to no maintenance (I've never ever fertilized it.) The wood is tougher than steel. At 20 foot tall, it took wilma's beating  without losing a branch. It grows straight up in the air like a telephone pole, so it fits in nicely in tight spaces. Given the vertical growth and super strong wood, you could almost use it as a wind break (if you have the patience to wait for it to grow to 20 foot tall :-). The only drawback is that it's does seem to like a lot of water. When mine goes 2 weeks without rain, the leaves will start to droop. The fruit will also get worms if you let it sit on the tree long enough. But, it's nice that it fruits in April, when not much else is available.

Amen to that.  They are very shallow rooted and are the very first tree in my yard to show drought stress.  And that, remember, is with mucky soil and a water table that is found about 4 feet under the surface.

[TREESNMORE]

Jeff
How is the yellow one I gave you last year. Mine are fruiting now early

[luc]

Quoting Hauss : They are very shallow rooted and are the very first tree in my yard to show drought stress.  And that, remember, is with mucky soil and a water table that is found about 4 feet under the surface.

If this is true about the very shallow roots it should be doable to transplant 4 meter trees , they are getting shaded by my Mabolos , first like Mike and Bmc do cutting them down to 1 to 2 meter ? Correct me if I am wrong guys . On the other side I can afford to lose a few since I have now 8 fruiting . All taste the same , no difference in quality .

[Mike T]

My experience with grumichamas is different from others.I consider them a moderately deep rooted specied with moderate drought resistance.They certainly are deeper rooted at my place than jaboticabas,mangosteen or limes and less prone to toppling over in high winds than the species I mentioned.I would hate to try and dig my yellow one up.

They do enjoy a good haircut and grow back profusely.I reckon they should be pruned with an iron fist.

[Cookie Monster]

I finally planted it out yesterday :-). My wife liked the fruit of your yellow one more than our dark red / purple fruited tree. I can't remember if there was a difference or not.

Jeff
How is the yellow one I gave you last year. Mine are fruiting now early

[Cookie Monster]

It's strange, because the rootsystem of mine is indeed deeper than jaboticaba. Wilma caused my grumichama to lean at 15 degree angle. I later tried to return it to perpendicular with the ground by using my car to pull, but it was an exercise in futility, as the darn thing would not budge. My jaboticaba however, toppled with ease.

In my experience, the jabo is shallower rooted than the cherry rio grande, which is shallower rooted than the grumichama.

I stopped 'hat racking' my grumichama, as that just caused it to shoot right back up in the air. Now, I've been using a different pruning technique where I cut out branches from the bottom. I'll see if I can find a picture of what I'm talking about.

Ok, I couldn't find a picture online, so I'll take this opportunity to show off my exceptional MS Paint skills:



The hat rack style prune make my grumichama grow really fast. The selective full branch prune seems to slow down the re-growth.

I hate pruning the darn thing because my chipper shredder can barely cut through the wood.

My experience with grumichamas is different from others.I consider them a moderately deep rooted specied with moderate drought resistance.They certainly are deeper rooted at my place than jaboticabas,mangosteen or limes and less prone to toppling over in high winds than the species I mentioned.I would hate to try and dig my yellow one up.

They do enjoy a good haircut and grow back profusely.I reckon they should be pruned with an iron fist.

[tropical66]

 My Grumichama Seedlings



Yellow Grumichama Seedlings Sprouting.



Black Grumichama Seedlings.

[Central Floridave]

Mine is getting ready to bust-a-move with flowers!

[jb_fla]

Here is one of my grums from about a week ago.

[Dangermouse01]

Mine from last week, with more on the way. Spent awhile just watching the honey bee, it seemed to be having a grand time in all the flowers.



DM

[fruitlovers]

The grumichamas seem globally synchronized as mine were also at that stage of flowering a week ago. Now they have small grumis and a very few mature ones.

[Central Floridave]

Nice photos!   I expect mine to open up the flowers soon.  What a spectacular looking bush when that happens!   

[fruitlovers]

I find myself taking more photos of grumichama than almost any other plant. It's a very photogenic tree.

[edself65]

Nice photos Oscar! One of my favorite plants!
Ed

[ScottR]

Beautiful pic's everyone!

[Central Floridave]

Flowers opened up today!

[Central Floridave]

Went out this morning.  Wow. Very aromatic.  Smells like jasmine. 

Pollinator on a scouting mission:

[Central Floridave]

Going in for the kill...