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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Are lemon and limes usually grafted?
« on: April 05, 2021, 10:15:47 PM »
Probably depends on the nursery that grew the tree. Most of my citrus trees are from Four Winds, if I remember correctly, and they're all grafted. My 2 Lisbon trees I bought at Walmart, I don't remember what nursery they came from, those are also grafted, one still has a tag with "macrophylla" on it.

 The only citrus trees I own that are on their own roots are a Eureka that was a few twigs in a 1 gallon squat decorative pot grown by Colorama and bought at Lowes and a Meyer lemon that I airlayered and multigrafted.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: space for Passiflora roots
« on: May 27, 2020, 06:27:40 PM »
My incarnata missed that memo, it (like the rest of my passiflora) doesn't grow for crap in containers for me but once it escapes.... there's no stopping it.

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Eureka is my least favorite true lemon. I would go for a Lisbon if you are looking for a easy to get lemon. The Italian varieties are all superior for their peel oil content.

I guess Italian lemons are back into consideration lol. I was thinking Genoa (which the CVC description claims is indistinguishable from Eureka), Limonero Fino 49, or Femminello Siracusano 2KR. Originally I planned on getting a Santa Teresa but it isn't available for some reason.



I dont agree all lemons are the same......Eureka is big and ugly.......

LMFAO! That's one of the reasons I wanted to get Italian/Spanish lemons.

Taste over looks though, so I just want a good all around lemon to graft to my only in ground tree, the only lemon variety it has is Meyers. I have a few lemon trees in pots, a small Eureka that looks like it was possibly grown from a cutting, a couple of Lisbon (one is an 8A, the other doesn't specify), an air layer from the Meyers, and a multi graft tree with a Variegated Pink Eureka branch. I would just take some budwood from the one's I have but I'm living in an ACP red zone and don't want to risk possibly giving THAT tree HLB, even if it hasn't been detected here as far as I know.

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Thanks for your opinions. Eureka it is.

Unless something changes my mind in the next 2 weeks. haha

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I was thinking of ordering some budwood from the CCPP, I plan on getting NZ Lemonade and a true lemon to graft on my main tree, but I'm unsure if I should get a Spanish or Italian variety or just get another Eureka/Lisbon. Has anyone compared the fruit? I've heard the only difference is the oil content in the peel.

 And if a lemon is a lemon regardless of the variety, do variegated pink Eureka lemons taste like regular yellow Eureka? I have a small grafted one but this is it's first year flowering and I have never tasted it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this true pertaining to passion fruit?
« on: February 29, 2020, 09:11:18 PM »
Sounds about right to me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: February 26, 2020, 03:50:30 AM »
I'm no expert but I've seen different heights from really short to pretty tall. It probably comes down to preference and ease of harvesting and maintenance. Mine is around 4 1/2 or 5 feet tall, I'm going to be up potting some cuttings from last year and I plan on making the post maybe a foot shorter.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Blood oranges and hybrids
« on: February 24, 2020, 01:20:05 AM »
I'm growing Tarocco #7, a Valentine pomelo that hasn't fruited, and I picked up a little Sanguenelli at the end of summer.

The Tarocco fruits range from huge to small, some barely have a few red streaks, others have so much color they rival Moros. The peel is always light orange, lighter than my CaraCara (both are on the same tree). It sort of has 2 flavors, the orange side tastes like a balanced orange and the parts with red add a raspberry flavor. Last year it gave me a handful of oranges, all with 1 or 2 seeds and this year it gave me plenty but I don't recall seeing a single seed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your 2020 grafting list?
« on: February 24, 2020, 12:49:25 AM »
I'm attempting to graft a bunch of varieties onto a Santa Rosa plum: Flavor Supreme pluot, Flavor Delight aprium, Sweet Treat pluerry, Dapple Dandy pluot, Dapple Supreme pluot, Cot N Candy aprium, and Elephant Heart plum.

Apple: Fuji Red Sport Type 2 to a Geneva rootstock.

Avocados: Sharwil, Reed, Pinkerton, Jan Boyce, Sir Prize, and Holiday onto a bunch of seedlings.

Figs: Violette de Bourdaux, Sal's (Gene), and Nero 600 (which might be the same as VdB) onto a seedling.

Hopefully most stick. I also plan on grafting some varieties that actually taste like something onto my white pitayas but I don't know when the best time to graft dragon fruit is.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Panache Fig
« on: February 21, 2020, 07:28:26 PM »
Are you looking to trade or buy?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguana removal opportunity with the cold
« on: January 26, 2020, 02:34:15 PM »
Why Floridians just don't stuff a small box with baby iguanas, tegus, and a tokay gecko and send it to me is something I'll never understand. I get that Burmese pythons are illegal to import into Cali but the rest aren't.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need ID -Passion Fruit
« on: June 10, 2019, 04:46:04 AM »
If it was a small tc when you got it my guess would be Possum Purple. It seems to be the most common variety that's available online.

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Imo most gf varieties should have been top worked to oranges, lemons, limes, or anything that wasn't gf decades ago. The only grapefruit variety that I've tried that wasn't bad is Star Ruby. Sweet, sour, thin pith with not much bitterness, I would say it's what gf should be.

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In ground if you want a monster and have something big for it to climb on.
Grow it in a pot if you want it to be a little more manageable. Like roblack said, they are a lot more vigorous in ground.

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Thanks, I looked it up and it was informative but he didn't really mention many of the varieties. I just ordered some Tricia cuttings, funny enough that's the variety with the huge spines you mention. I thought it would have normal pitaya thorns, those syringe needles came as a surprise.

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Thanks, it seems impossible to get much info on either one of these.

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Thanks guys, I'm going to give it a shot and hopefully it does well for me too.

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^^^^ title.

I've noticed some people selling cuttings to a variety called "Edgar" but when I google it the only info that comes up is for "Edgar's Baby", I know EB is from Ed Valdivia and is available through most venders that sell tc's but was wondering if it is the same as Edgar or if they are in fact different varieties with similar names.

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Is it at cold sensitive as the yellow dragon fruit? I was thinking of getting some cuttings and growing it but am not sure if it's doable or worth growing in zone 9b. Is there anybody here with experience growing it in the Bay Area?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Passion fruit
« on: May 06, 2019, 11:09:58 PM »
What kind are you looking for?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meyer lemon, why?
« on: May 06, 2019, 06:50:29 PM »
They're ok. They make a pretty good lemon substitute for some things (mostly desserts) but sometimes there is no substitute for a real lemon.

Is Improved Meyer better?
I want a lemon tree to compliment my Bearss but don't know what's a good lemon tree.

They're the same. Og Meyers was infected with one of the pathogens that affect citrus, Improved is the cleaned up version.
If you want a lemon tree for lemons get a Lisbon, Eureka, or an Italian variety. Meyers, imo, do good and look awesome in containers but taste a little different. You should probably taste one before growing it, to some it's a connoisseur lemon, to others..... well, you see the posts lol

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I have a Cara Cara, it's a navel orange with pink flesh. Don't really know what else to say about it, the only difference from regular navel oranges is the color.

I've never tried Vaniglia Sanguigno but I believe that's the acidless blood variety, correct? If so it probably couldn't really be compared to the other two, some love acidless oranges, others hate them. The only blood orange I have is Toracco #7, imo it's superior in flavor to the Cara Cara, especially the red segments that have a touch of raspberry to them. Cara Cara has it beat in productivity so far and it also started flowering and fruiting a year sooner.
Ironically, those two are the only varieties I don't have in containers.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Budwood
« on: May 05, 2019, 02:36:01 AM »
Most likely, but the variety won't be as wide. I usually order a stick from 4 or 5 varieties together with the s&h it comes out to around $30, which is more than a tree from Lowes or Home Depot but still cheaper than a tree from a nursery. I'm in Cali tho, so I get the "playa price", it'll be a little more for those out of state.
Just a heads-up that it's now $1.5/bud for CA residents, so $9/budstick. Shipping is $13 for a small qty. So one stick from 4-5 varieties will set you back over $50. The main issue I have is that I was good at doing cleft grafts using a stick each, now I need to switch to bud grafts...

Oh snap! Seriously? That's disappointing, but at least I have already ordered and grafted most of the varieties I wanted.


Is your county under quarantine? I talked to Gene Lester the other day & he said pretty much all of southern CA is under quarantine now. He said it's only a matter of time before it makes it up to the bay area.

Yes, Santa Clara is unfortunately under quarantine, acp is here but last time I checked hlb hadn't shown it's ugly face.
Family and friends are always asking if I would sell them a citrus tree but I always have to turn them down and explain to them why I cant. I would just give some away if I could.

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Budwood
« on: May 02, 2019, 01:05:35 AM »
I looked into ordering from CCPP but found it too expensive. (I am in Massachusetts.) For the price I would pay for cuttings, I could buy a 3 year old tree. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Most likely, but the variety won't be as wide. I usually order a stick from 4 or 5 varieties together with the s&h it comes out to around $30, which is more than a tree from Lowes or Home Depot but still cheaper than a tree from a nursery. I'm in Cali tho, so I get the "playa price", it'll be a little more for those out of state.

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I don't know much about them but I'd assume they aren't too different from other citrus. I always see them at my local nursery and even at the big box stores every now and then. I've been looking for the red finger limes, hopefully the ccpp gets some budwood in the near future.

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