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Citrus General Discussion / Re: HELP -fruit drop
« on: May 01, 2022, 10:28:41 AM »`

 Above is a sign up sheet to attend a webinar which will air on 4-28-22  on Gibberellic acid spray to citrus control fruit drop 

Nice to see you on the forum again
i watched the vid thanks millet...i have ordered the vid it suggested spray in sept=jan (northern) so that is autumn / now would be good(autumn /winter in aussie and fruiting)....this stuff= 500mg| Gibberellic Acid 90% TG | High Quality (Low Mesh) much to a litre should i go for that please?....amazingly the fruit that has dropped going orange over time in my kitchen ! and tastes reasonable when i eat it .

Do they have spinosad down there? Works well for leaf miner here, or you can just not feed after spring as an alternative.
Yeah...ive been going more for the concentrated form of feeding in spring to get as much growth as i can before the CLM turn up in the warm weather......i will have a look for spinosad here then....up to now...i use eco oil and neem oil with a little fish emulsion....but they just murder new growth...esp on lemons......its the urea they seek.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: HELP -fruit drop
« on: April 26, 2022, 05:36:05 AM »
my mate suggested not to feed citrus when they were ripening fruits ?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Horticultural Oil For Insect Control
« on: April 25, 2022, 12:27:22 PM »
For a complete elimination of insects listed below, and for ultra safe personal protection, use a good horticultural oil.  It eliminates most all common insects that attack citrus. Can be sprayed between 32F to 90F.  Insects NEVER become immune, no matter how often or how long horticultural sprays are used.  Be sure to keep ingredients (water & oil) blended while spraying

Insects killed:
Rust mite, red spider mite, scales, white fly, thrips, mealy bug, aphids, Greasy spot, loosening of sooty mold.
my biggest problem in western australia is CLM.....they are a right pain....i dont even feed my citrus in autumn because clm will just decimate it...tried eco oil and neem oil and they just treat new growth like CLM candy........spring is where its at for me..before they turn up...they love the urea apparently.

Citrus General Discussion / HELP -fruit drop
« on: April 25, 2022, 09:17:26 AM »
Come in Millet !...i need your wisdom......its autumn in Perth western Australia but we have still been getting 29C but its about to drop to 21-22C...we have had a really dry summer...hasnt rained at all.....
my problem......Last year i bought a large "Imperial mandarin tree" had nice size fruit on it and i transplanted it into a 50 litre the fruits reached maturity and just started to go orange.....each fruit dropped one by one and i didnt get one fruit reach maturity.....the tree was not  overloaded by any means.....i read that this might have been caused by not getting enough water before i bought the tree.......well its been through this season and ive watered it twice a week and fed with good quality slow release fert every month...little but has again grown some good sized fruit but they are now starting to turn orange and one dropped last night......the same has happened for the last two years with my "Honey murcott" mandarin which is in the ground......i feed that with compost and organics in winter and slow release ferts both organic and chemical through spring and summer......thats started to drop fruits that are starting to turn orange as well......3 have come off past two days.....all small ones.......i really wonder what i am doing i need to water more ,,,do i need to feed high potassium to hep fruit mature?...i read one guy said that if you feed too much they drop their fruit ...another if too much direct sun they drop their really not sure but they are both doing the same i feeding too much?...the one in the ground is in sand but ive composted the top and mulched for many years now.....but its very free draining.....some of the fruits are getting a nice i have done something good so far but i cant work it out....i dont want all me fruit dropping off by one......imperial mandarin in 50 litre pot and honey murcott mandarin inground...sandy soil....cheers Jon sorry the pics.are night time ......Thoughts please?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaf miners on my mandarin
« on: November 16, 2020, 11:27:06 AM »
Yep.....its the small young trees that can be severely effected by it......a big tree like that has so many can easily spare a few to CLM.
I havent sprayed much this year in Perth and as yet...they dont seem to be around...which i find strange.....they usually appear with the spring flush.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help identifying issue with my lemon tree
« on: November 16, 2020, 11:16:35 AM »
IMHO i like to go organic at the last month of winter....something that smells bad !!! then has a month to break down with the winter weather/rain ready for when the plant needs it at the beginning of spring......Thats the most important feed of the season.....from the summer on.....i use a chemical slow release with soil microbes and trace elements.......manures in summer are not such a great idea.
I put chopped up banana skins on my figs and tomatos because they have no nitrogen but good levels of phopshorous and potassium.
but i feed everything once a month ....little and often...rather than big feeds which can burn....6 inch circle around the trunk which i call the circle of life.......never put any food there because there are no feeder roots there anyway.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help identifying issue with my lemon tree
« on: November 16, 2020, 11:14:12 AM »
as below.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: ID of this citrus fruit please.
« on: November 16, 2020, 11:07:44 AM »
OK....the result is in = ITS AN UGLY FRUIT.........that big fruit that was on there...fell off the other i put it in the fridge to chill.......I noticed it wasnt very that made me think it was juiceless......when i peeled it...the first thing i noticed it had a hollow in the middle which is a characteristic of ugly the segments were even and a pale yellow which is also ugly fruit style.......Unfortunately ...some of it had gone off and it wasnt really edible but at least i know what it is now.....its the ugly fruit that is grown in Jamaica....I still have one fruit on there ripening and they are supposed to be nice according to that part of the world.

Hi Millet.....No i have never heard of this trial..........relative to where i live in Perth...we dont need greenhouses at fact i use shadecloth on a regular basis...once it goes over 30C i have to shade cloth all my citrus and peach/nectarine/avocado/strawbs because they get cooked to death and we are not even in summer yet.......just before xmas we usually get a few 40 + C ...usually 42/43/ being a fat boy slim....i dont look forward to those times but Perth would be the perfect place to field test the technology.........most times of the 3 months of summer......we get no rain at all.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: ID of this citrus fruit please.
« on: November 07, 2020, 12:39:19 PM » is late spring here now and we are getting some days that are 30+C days.......i have two big fruits on there and both are going orange but are not fully orange.......  it has a a little spring growth but it seems to slowly be focusing on ripening those bloody big fruits on fruit fell off today....about the size of a tennis was still pure green but it could be i peeled it and it looked like a small mandarin in size and looked i ate it ! wasnt sweet at all because it hadnt fully ripened but i am now thinking its a Golden nugget......summer starts in Dec......I have fed it now with high potassium and some espom salts to encourage it to ripen.....
My question is = Do golden nuggets ripen in your summer time in the usa ?

I have found feeding organically through the winter really helps because it breaks down slowly and is available for the spring burst when the trees need it....all my trees starting growing in the last month of winter spring feed consisted of troforte....which is a cheiacl based feed with beneficial bacteria/fungi component and minerals......feeds for 6 months slow release......I am not seeing much CLM at all.... maybe because there is not much urea in the soil now and thats what the CLM are after.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: How to deal with Leaf Miner
« on: November 07, 2020, 12:23:43 PM »
I mix neem oil/eco oil with a small amount of fish emulsion/seaweed and spray with for me and they get a foliar feed as well.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: ID of this citrus fruit please.
« on: October 24, 2020, 12:41:47 PM »
Was what season so golden nuggett go ripe in USA ?......because my fruit is still ripening and going orange but it hasnt gone fully orange yet and its 25-34C degrees here at the moment and well into our of the other fruit is changing to orange now........with most citrus they need night time temps to go under 10C to help acids go to i am leaning towards this fruit ripening towards xmas and our summer......not many citrus do that here in aussie.

Well i think i am fully qualified to comment on this subject because i have been tortured by citrus leaf miner here in Perth western Australia....I have done my research and have my 2 cents worth.......there is not much else that terrorizes  young citrus in perth ...except leaf miner.........But i can give you some tips.......they are very hard to pin down and you wont avoid them all together but you can try your best........Knowing your enemy helps....
Firstly.....what are leaf miner up too and what do they seek ?........they tend to come out to coincide with new growth spring and autumn....They are after UREA....which just so happens citrus particularly the key is to feed them towards the end of winter with high urea to give them a good push before get the big growth surge.......Then you need to spray when u see minute buds starting to form.........They particularly feast on young and tender dont let new growth grow bigger than 5mm before you spray ! to start from pin heads ! and then stick to the program.
NEEM oil soaks into the leaf and kills the grub....ECO oil is a surfactant which leaves a coating on the leaf.....therefore making it hard for them to get in.......So i get a 5 litre spray bottle and mix 10ml of Neem oil and 20ml of eco oil and a capful of eco feed(fish emulsion/seaweed) all protects the new growth and foliar feeds at the same time...Even fish emulsion has a coating effect on the leaf.....leaves already infiltrated should be pruned off....the key is to get in early when the buds are tiny......I then re spray every 10-14 days....make sure both side of leaves are sprayed and done about 6pm at night...when autumn flush comes......continue with the spray program but avoid high UREA feeds as this is what they seek......dont over feed and and promote autumn growth....the spring burst is where its at.....avoid spraying on open flowers as it will kill them and always spray at the end of the day.......The combo of neem and eco oil has been the most effective for me and i have 30 trees.....CLM can be very demoralizing when you have done everything right and you see lots of new growth.......It drove my friend so mad...he was spraying every 3 days!!!......I have not seen any sign of CLM so far this season and its 34C tomorrow and we are well into spring here............Hope this helps.......Remove all the damaged leaves    and stick to a program...i mark it on my calender every time....This is the organic solution.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: How to prevent ants going up your trees
« on: October 19, 2020, 09:58:03 AM »
saw a vid the other day ...the guy just used packing tape and would that around the wrong way on the base of trunk......that would stay sticky for quite a while without the need for vaseline......I am going to give it a go soon......once i see the ants getting active.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Deficiency
« on: September 28, 2020, 08:30:19 PM »
Thanks millet...I thought it strange because i look after them and feed and water them correctly.....I know sandy soils have their pros and cons.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: ID of this citrus fruit please.
« on: September 24, 2020, 01:42:47 AM »
Thanks Peeps.......yes.....the taste test and the the cut in half pic...because the ugly has a hollow chamber in the the slice in half should expose what it is........i dont think a GN will have a hollow in the middle like an ugly does.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: New growth on my potted Tango looks weird.
« on: September 23, 2020, 02:07:26 PM »
Time to search for a solution.
Calling Millet ....over !...he will know 4 sure mate.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: ID of this citrus fruit please.
« on: September 23, 2020, 02:06:23 PM »

GN fruits are usually ready between March to May/Jun.   Unfortunately, it is the same period of blooming.

Will the fruits remaining on the tree retard the blooming so cause alternative bearing?   The fruits can be picked up earlier but they would not taste sweet (I tried.  They were bland in March and improved gradually to May/June).
GN= Although....this fruiting time coincides with what its doing here.......spring is sept to Dec 1st ...summer dec 1st onwards.......
March at your place would be end of winter to may/june is end of spring and early summer.....Its a pity i cant find when the ripening time of ugly fruit tangor is.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: ID of this citrus fruit please.
« on: September 23, 2020, 01:47:33 PM »
The UCR collection has 3 accession types of Ugli

Your fruit doesn't look exactly like any of these.
The Ugli wasn't officially introduced to Australia, as far as i know, so may have come in as seed.
If it's an Ugli you may have a seed variant ??
Also looks a bit like Sanbokan
  This is getting me it looks most like the 2780..........I have not be able to find any info on when an ugli fruit would ripen in Australia......but its going more orange everyday now and its chucking out spring growth as well.....Thanks for your input mate........I wont pick it until its nice and orange........its getting warm here now with was 26 C and 2 morrow is 30C and we have been getting plenty of cold i will take my time with it......I think i will cut it in half when i pick it and take a pick....then peel.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: New growth on my potted Tango looks weird.
« on: September 23, 2020, 01:38:46 PM »
Thats exactly what happened to one of my trees....all new leaves went crinkled.......Millet reckoned mine was caused by could be for yours too.

Citrus General Discussion / Deficiency
« on: September 21, 2020, 10:14:36 AM »
Is this Iron deficiency? my soil is very sandy but i have been adding organics to it for some time.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaf crinkle
« on: September 21, 2020, 10:12:33 AM »
Thanks for that.......will do millet.

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