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Question about australian atemoyas....
« on: September 08, 2021, 01:05:41 PM »
I have read here and elsewhere how good atemoya varieties from Australia are.  Especifically I have read about "Paxton prolific" (KJ Pinks) and "Hillary White".  Don't know if they have newer/better ones. 

What I was wondering is, why they aren't available in the United States (at least I haven't seem them)?

Are these varieties patented in some way?  Is it illegal to grow them outside of Australia?  What is the story on these?

Thanks for any juicy information to satisfy my curiosity  ;)

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2021, 04:28:50 PM »
Mate good luck getting them overseas….. I live in Australia and can’t even get any of them here. Hey

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2021, 04:33:33 PM »
Mate good luck getting them overseas….. I live in Australia and can’t even get any of them here. Hey

That's exactly what intrigues me.... why are they so hard to get?

There is mystery here!  :D

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2021, 05:01:43 PM »
Hilary White is a bit harder to get here but Paxton prolific is very common. I even saw a bunch at Bunnings (our big hardware/home chain I guess similar to Home Depot) last week.
They might not be as easily available up north where Gone Troppo is.

I though Paxton prolific was over there though, more commonly with the name KJ pinks there?
« Last Edit: September 08, 2021, 05:04:42 PM by Ulfr »

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2021, 05:13:25 PM »
Those two types are in the US. They are in Florida as well.
They have not fruited in Florida as far as I know yet. It will be interesting
to see how they perform in CA and Florida and if they do as well as
Australia.

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2021, 05:33:03 PM »
Those two types are in the US. They are in Florida as well.
They have not fruited in Florida as far as I know yet. It will be interesting
to see how they perform in CA and Florida and if they do as well as
Australia.
Thanks for the info Mike! 

It is then just a matter of time before they are more available....

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2021, 02:39:42 PM »
Hillary White does great in CA climate and is no. 1 atemoya IMHO

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2021, 10:38:08 PM »
Hilary white growing well for me in Palm Beach area

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2021, 10:38:33 PM »
Troppo is about 2000 miles (not km) north of Melbourne where atempyas are also grown so its not easy to compare the their Australian performance to comparatively small areas. Florida is more like coastal south east Queensland and California may be more similar to parts of southern NSW. Regardless the Australian atemoyas would do fine in Florida and California.

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2021, 08:22:32 AM »
Someone needs to make the AU atemoyas available in the US on a wider scale. I even think that it would be worth while to import seeds from the AU breeding programs and grow them out. There are bound to be some winners when the genetics are that good to start with.

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2021, 10:07:51 AM »
Florida is still going through its gefner and african pride phase and might not be ready for an out of sequence atemoya. There could be a great disturbance in the fruit continuum. The same applies if seedless and erdon lee lychees were to land there.

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2021, 10:41:47 PM »
Florida is still going through its gefner and african pride phase and might not be ready for an out of sequence atemoya. There could be a great disturbance in the fruit continuum. The same applies if seedless and erdon lee lychees were to land there.

I'll take my chances.  ;)

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2021, 06:38:52 AM »
Budwood for Hilary White has been around for the last few years.
So I'm sure quite a few of us have a tree now.

I don't know when ZHPP will be grafting it though

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2021, 10:42:45 AM »
Troppo is about 2000 miles (not km) north of Melbourne where atempyas are also grown so its not easy to compare the their Australian performance to comparatively small areas. Florida is more like coastal south east Queensland and California may be more similar to parts of southern NSW. Regardless the Australian atemoyas would do fine in Florida and California.

Isn't Florida to warm for Cherimoyas? I was under the impressions they didnt handle either heat or heat and humidity well.

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2021, 10:44:06 AM »
Florida is still going through its gefner and african pride phase and might not be ready for an out of sequence atemoya. There could be a great disturbance in the fruit continuum. The same applies if seedless and erdon lee lychees were to land there.

I would love to get my hands on erdon lee lychees here. Tons of lychee here and through the north. Wonder if I could just take them over on the plane

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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2021, 03:36:54 PM »
Florida is still going through its gefner and african pride phase and might not be ready for an out of sequence atemoya. There could be a great disturbance in the fruit continuum.
???
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Re: Question about australian atemoyas....
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2021, 06:53:29 PM »
Having reviewed the limited pics of Maroochy Gold online (mostly on Daley's), I am beginning to suspect that the Tim Atemoya is MG or a seedling of it that has come close to type. Anyone have other thoughts?