2023 Mango Season

[EddieF]

My 1st time fruiting & eating M4, Cogshall & Pickering. 
Next yr if peach cobbler, phoenix, maha & raw honey fruit, i'll be certified mango nut now too lol.
Mangos are good.



Edit- Kents in photo too.

[Cookie Monster]

One nice thing about PPK is that it hangs on the tree past maturity. So if you don't get out there regularly to pick mangoes, it won't send them to the ground before you get a chance to pick.

Oh boy, I finally got my hands on some PPK/LM today.  Mango candy! 

[Honest Abe]

Left to right, Okrung, Carrie and Baileys Marvel.

The baileys from my yard.

All three are excellent this year.

[mangomandan]

I realize this is a naive question, but is mango flavor affected by the care the tree has received?
My trees, which include some very well regarded varieties, received no fertilizer or other care for the last 2.5 years (I was away).
So far this year not a single tree has given me really good, full-flavored fruit.
I'm guessing that getting lots of rain has not helped, but I haven't heard anyone complain that 2023 crop is a washout.

[Oolie]

You can apply potassium and calcium to help sweeten up and get nice thick fleshed fruit for future crops.

[Honest Abe]

Can’t say for sure but Yea In my limited experience I second that about calcium for sure. I sprinkled oak wood ash a couple times last year and my mangoes tasted way better and seemed like thicker fleshed fruits. We had a heck of a drought prior to June too and that helps flavor A lot for sure/

[Oolie]

Wood ash is a great source of both calcium and potassium, and given the frequent rains in FL it also has the benefit of raising pH.

[Galatians522]

Healthy plants have more chlorophyll to harvest more sunlight to make more sugar.

[irun5k]

Our pickering has been in the ground for just a year, and we got a legit little crop this year- maybe a dozen normal sized, great tasting fruit. There are still a couple left to harvest.

It is debatable whether I should have let it set fruit this year given the small size of the tree, but I'm hopeful that I get several nice growth flushes now that fruiting is complete.

Compared to the carrie we had at our old house, I'm a bigger fan of pickering so far- hopefully it doesn't let me down.

• I do really like Carrie's taste, but at times in the harvest season the flavor profile could get complex with some less desirable elements mixed in.  Pickering is more straightfoward, solid mango + coconut
• Pickering is firmer and can be served sliced, diced, etc.  Carrie can be extremely soft, great for making a puree, jam, etc. but not always so great for serving fresh.
• Pickering seems much more eager to set fruit compared to carrie
• Time will tell but I get the feeling pickering will be a smaller, easier to manage tree.  My carrie was a large tree, tall and wide canopy.

[palmcity]

 

• Pickering seems much more eager to set fruit compared to carrie

I have 10 Carrie trees and 10 for 10 all set not just fruit, but a good quantity of fruit this year.
Pickering (only 1 fruited) has been much less likely at my location to set fruit but also was much more prone to various spots on the fruit and tree than my Carrie that bear fruit if even all the stems looking black and total leaf preventing sun from hitting where the fruit is located.
For me, Carrie trees are excellant bearing trees and Pickering (only 1 bearing, 2 other recently grafted) much worse odds of getting fruit at harvest time.

Here's a Super Julie that tastes similar to Carrie but a little sweeter with sometimes like a apricot hint.
Turns ripe fast also, like a Carrie from 1 day to the next except more obvious with the purple to red change of color.

[roblack]

Sweet Tart picked a little early was still hugely satisfying.

Recent Orange Sherbet was even better than LZ. Got to get more LZs this year, I know they are better.

Some Sugar Loafs looking almost ready.

...and Squam just sent me a box, LOL

[CowboyFig]

I know LZ and OS have different textures, but do you notice a big difference in taste? I’ve had PPK and LZ, but not an OS yet.

[Cookie Monster]

In south florida -- we had a lot of rain early, which washed out the flavor. That said, gypsum and potassium helps, just be sure not to overdo the potassium as it competes with calcium.

I realize this is a naive question, but is mango flavor affected by the care the tree has received?
My trees, which include some very well regarded varieties, received no fertilizer or other care for the last 2.5 years (I was away).
So far this year not a single tree has given me really good, full-flavored fruit.
I'm guessing that getting lots of rain has not helped, but I haven't heard anyone complain that 2023 crop is a washout.

[Oolie]

In south florida -- we had a lot of rain early, which washed out the flavor. That said, gypsum and potassium helps, just be sure not to overdo the potassium as it competes with calcium.

I realize this is a naive question, but is mango flavor affected by the care the tree has received?
My trees, which include some very well regarded varieties, received no fertilizer or other care for the last 2.5 years (I was away).
So far this year not a single tree has given me really good, full-flavored fruit.
I'm guessing that getting lots of rain has not helped, but I haven't heard anyone complain that 2023 crop is a washout.

And wood ash has a pretty good ratio usually much higher in calcium.
https://vric.ucdavis.edu/pdf/fertilization_Woodashes.pdf

[fruitnoob]

Maha from my tree. It has a hint of acidity and lovely spice scent; so good.

[roblack]

I know LZ and OS have different textures, but do you notice a big difference in taste? I’ve had PPK and LZ, but not an OS yet.

LZ has been more complex than OS in the past, with a bit more acid as well. Both quite good, but usually LZ is preferred by those who like more complexity. OS is more simple mango and orange flavor, with less acidity. Juicy.

[roblack]

Next in line

[roblack]

Sooo many great mangoes, it has been a wonderful season.

Finally had a good Cac; in fact it was great. Guess the previous ones were picked too early, or eaten underripe, which usually works for me. Seems Cac needs to ripen all the way, Rich and sweet. Never got it till now.

Only a couple of Sugar Loafs, Ceci Loves, Sweet Tarts, Kesars, and a lone m4 left hanging.

[johnb51]

I know LZ and OS have different textures, but do you notice a big difference in taste? I’ve had PPK and LZ, but not an OS yet.

LZ has been more complex than OS in the past, with a bit more acid as well. Both quite good, but usually LZ is preferred by those who like more complexity. OS is more simple mango and orange flavor, with less acidity. Juicy.

PPK, as great as the flavor is, has a sort of sliminess to the pulp.  I don't recall this with LZ, but I've only eaten a few.  Is OS similar to PPK in this regard?

[roblack]

Current Totals for 2023:

Glenn: 120 - 140 mangoes. 200 fruits produced 3 years ago, but the last 2 years were not good. Very tasty fruits, as good as they have ever been. Most mature of our mango trees, in ground since 2015. Has been trimmed a bit, relative productivity this year was comparable to the year it produced 200 fruit.

Ceci Love: 12+ fruit from 2 grafts on Glenn tree. Some still ripening. Excellent quality. 1st fruits from 2 year old grafts.

Sugar Loaf: 12+ fruit. Excellent quality. Small tree, just started producing.

Sweet Tart: 12+ fruit. Excellent quality. Smalll tree, just started producing.

Kesar: 16+ fruit. Very good+ quality. Only lower parts of tree fruited, which is weird because top part gets better sun; tree is shaded a bit. Has been producing 3 years, not much fruit yet. Think it needs more light.

Orange Sherbet: 1 fruit, from grafts on NDM4, medium sized tree fruited, but dropped all. Very good+ quality.

m4: Small tree holding 1 fruit.

Guava aka Sein Ta Lone: 2 fruit, good quality. Medium tree, just started producing.

Edward (new tree) held 1 fruit. Probably 1.5 lbs.

Coco Cream dropped all fruit.

NDM4 flowered a little, but did not hold fruit.

Maha graft flowered but did not hold.

With Dr. Campbell, Squam, and neighbors slinging mangoes around to add to our haul, feel like a kid in a candy shop everyday for the last 2 months. 

Also, tried Creme Brûlée finally; very good. More ripe than I usually like, but was quite enjoyable at this stage. Juicy and complex, very sweet. Worth growing.

[roblack]

I know LZ and OS have different textures, but do you notice a big difference in taste? I’ve had PPK and LZ, but not an OS yet.

LZ has been more complex than OS in the past, with a bit more acid as well. Both quite good, but usually LZ is preferred by those who like more complexity. OS is more simple mango and orange flavor, with less acidity. Juicy.

PPK, as great as the flavor is, has a sort of sliminess to the pulp.  I don't recall this with LZ, but I've only eaten a few.  Is OS similar to PPK in this regard?

Re OS:

OS beats PPK in my experiences, and LZ usually beats OS.

OS can get kind of jelly-ish when overripe, perhaps some slime. At proper ripeness, texture of OS is medium firm with a bit of juice. A joy to eat, never noticed a slime problem, but will look for slime next time =)

[Julie]

Can anyone help with this?  My orange sherbet mangoes are not ripening properly.  No matter what they have a huge jelly seed.  I've tried picking them earlier and not leaving them on the tree to ripen, and opening them earlier, and still the jelly seed.  This is the first year the tree produced a lot of fruit.  Last year I got a few fruit and I don't remember them having this problem.

[Julie]

For me:

75+ mangoes on each tree for pickering, OS, and sweet tart trees.  Pickerings started at beginning of May, completely done now.  Sweet Tart started ripening in beginning of June, still some left now.  OS started ripening now, but having a lot of problems with jelly seed, not sure what to do. About 15 mangoes on Glenn due to powdery mildew which ripened in May. 

I'm freezing mangoes daily using pint and a half ball mason jars.  Bought a chest freezer from Costco specifically for this purpose (it's great except it does make some noise but it was very cheap - around $250 total).  The mason jar method is the easiest and most eco friendly way to store produce in my opinion.

[Oolie]

Can anyone help with this?  My orange sherbet mangoes are not ripening properly.  No matter what they have a huge jelly seed.  I've tried picking them earlier and not leaving them on the tree to ripen, and opening them earlier, and still the jelly seed.  This is the first year the tree produced a lot of fruit.  Last year I got a few fruit and I don't remember them having this problem.

Increasing available Calcium and potentially including boron in a feeding regimen is likely to help.

[Cookie Monster]

Yes, OS has the same "slimy" texture. It's prone to softnose and jelly seed in my experience. PPK can develop jelly seed as well but seems less prone than OS. LZ normally ripens very evenly.

I know LZ and OS have different textures, but do you notice a big difference in taste? I’ve had PPK and LZ, but not an OS yet.

LZ has been more complex than OS in the past, with a bit more acid as well. Both quite good, but usually LZ is preferred by those who like more complexity. OS is more simple mango and orange flavor, with less acidity. Juicy.

PPK, as great as the flavor is, has a sort of sliminess to the pulp.  I don't recall this with LZ, but I've only eaten a few.  Is OS similar to PPK in this regard?

Re OS:

OS beats PPK in my experiences, and LZ usually beats OS.

OS can get kind of jelly-ish when overripe, perhaps some slime. At proper ripeness, texture of OS is medium firm with a bit of juice. A joy to eat, never noticed a slime problem, but will look for slime next time =)