2023 Mango Season

[Cookie Monster]

haha welcome to the club. Despite growing on calcareous soil, I still have a major problem with uneven ripening of OS. Though when picked early, they should ripen normally.

I'm sure there is a way to mitigate the soft nose / jelly seed issue, but I haven't quite found it yet.

Soil water retention might be a factor (ie, high rain plus poorly draining soil might exacerbate the condition).

Can anyone help with this?  My orange sherbet mangoes are not ripening properly.  No matter what they have a huge jelly seed.  I've tried picking them earlier and not leaving them on the tree to ripen, and opening them earlier, and still the jelly seed.  This is the first year the tree produced a lot of fruit.  Last year I got a few fruit and I don't remember them having this problem.

[Oolie]

Acids make Calcium available, except rain's acid (Carbonic acid), which makes Calcium unavailable.

Some additional pH buffering is required.

[Julie]

Ok so pick them early while green.  I'm going to try that.

Miami-Dade County has a huge limestone bedrock so I'm not sure if my soil needs more Calcium?

My OS taste nowhere near as good as the ones from Mango Men Homestead I purchased around 4-5 years ago.  Theirs were amazing which prompted me to buy the tree.  If it didn't have the huge jelly seed I wouldn't complain.

[bulldawg305]

haha welcome to the club. Despite growing on calcareous soil, I still have a major problem with uneven ripening of OS. Though when picked early, they should ripen normally.

I'm sure there is a way to mitigate the soft nose / jelly seed issue, but I haven't quite found it yet.

Soil water retention might be a factor (ie, high rain plus poorly draining soil might exacerbate the condition).

Can anyone help with this?  My orange sherbet mangoes are not ripening properly.  No matter what they have a huge jelly seed.  I've tried picking them earlier and not leaving them on the tree to ripen, and opening them earlier, and still the jelly seed.  This is the first year the tree produced a lot of fruit.  Last year I got a few fruit and I don't remember them having this problem.

Yeah, This was a major issue for me the last time this tree fruited 2 years ago. The few early ones I had this year did not have this problem and will see how badly the main crop is affected now.

[Honest Abe]

Fertilized my neighbors OS with wood ash when blooming…picking them bow and so far no jelly seed but I pick when still rock-solid but hollow brown stems and then let sit for 7 days or so in garage. Nice even ripe yummy Ones. Also very sandy soul with just enough organic matter here it seems.

[johnb51]

Mangos from ZHPP.  K is for Karla.  I had planted a tree for someone looking for a Kent-type.  I'll let you know.  PC is Pina Colada.

[Honest Abe]

John let us know how those peach cobblers were please. The ones I’ve had this year are mediocre last year we’re amazing…

[johnb51]

John let us know how those peach cobblers were please. The ones I’ve had this year are mediocre last year we’re amazing…

I tasted Peach Cobbler last year, and it was amazing.  The PC's are Pina Colada.  I ran out of cash!  $30 doesn't buy a lot of mangos.  But in all fairness, ZHPP charges $4 a lb.  The last time I was there 8 years ago, I think it was $3 a lb. (unless it was $2) so not bad.  Nobody's getting rich selling mangos!  I feel the Zill family has done the world a great service.

[Honest Abe]

Absolutely. I’m paying 5.50 a lb most places man. That’s just the price of top tier mangos nowadays.

[roblack]

Still got some Kesar, Ceci Love, Sugar Loaf, and a lone m4 hanging. Critters already attacked the m4, so it's a goner. Going to graft more CL on Glenn, lots of new growth popping.

Trying to extend our season. April thru September would be great; currently have homegrown mangoes late April thru mid July.

[Orkine]

Have you considered a Beverly for one of your later varieties? 

[Honest Abe]

John
Actually Had 2 amazing peach cobblers today. Had a Fruit punch today also, was good but really always seems like an over-rated mango to me. Had a decent sweet tart too. Just planted an m-4 tree . hope all is well,
-Abe

[palmcity]

About 7/10 of my peach cobbler have come off the tree and the other day I finally had one that was not just peachy but a strong peach flavor and it was better than the beginning of that variety fruits ripening. Also I would call it overripe to get that strong peach flavor.

Same thing of Phoenix, as I only had 5 fruit (first year fruiting) and first 4 were just average mangos. Last fruit I left on tree till it was ready to drop when I touched it and it was all red & orange. We took it inside and it was actually very good at what I would call and overripe condition. Phoenix also has the flowery taste similar to IMan Pasand and if you don't taste it when eating a ripe phoenix, eat the peelings and make sure it was ripe and you should get the flowery taste... Iman Pasand is always cracked at my location and to me not worth growing but I've changed my mind on Phoenix as it is that very different taste that no other mango gives but Iman Pasand and Phoenix as far as I'm aware.

This year, I consider a few mangos so dominate/strong/flavors that cover your taste buds for some time to be: DOT and Super Julie. Eat these mangos last during any mango tasting. If eaten earlier and followed by a mango like orange essence, the orange essence will not taste sweet at least to me. I then must wait till the next morning to eat the orange essence by itself and then I see it was actually sweet.

[johnb51]

John
Actually Had 2 amazing peach cobblers today. Had a Fruit punch today also, was good but really always seems like an over-rated mango to me. Had a decent sweet tart too. Just planted an m-4 tree . hope all is well,
-Abe

The one Peach Cobbler that I brought from Zill's was OK.  It was still pretty firm but getting black spots.  Flavor was tangerine (especially at the skin) and maybe baked peaches.  I'd give it an 8.  The one Coconut Cream was not so great.  It didn't have a coconut flavor but some flavor other than straight-up mango.  Only a 6 or 7 for that one. 

[skhan]

Peach cobblers have been raining down on me.
It's been pretty hard to keep up with.

Half my trees are done fruiting for the year.
This is the first year where I'll be a little happy when the season is over lol

[Oolie]

Lemon Zest's popularity is well deserved.

[Galatians522]

Peach cobblers have been raining down on me.
It's been pretty hard to keep up with.

Half my trees are done fruiting for the year.
This is the first year where I'll be a little happy when the season is over lol

We are a little behind you up here. I tried my first fully ripened Peach Cobbler today. I had been eating them at the first signs of give and got mainly tangerine taste. Now that they are fully ripe and I get some peach type flavor. Very nice!

[EddieF]

Glad to read good things about Peach Cobbler.  Mine should flower next yr.  Phoenix too.
Would've this yr but i pruned them hard last yr when storm was possibly coming.
Played it safe. 

[Cookie Monster]

It's an amazing mango. Even with the washed out mango flavor year we've had so far, I had an LZ mango last night that measured 29 degree of brix.

Lemon Zest's popularity is well deserved.

[roblack]

I haven't seen many LZ this year; maybe they were too good to let go?

My favs this year have been, in order:

1) Ceci Love
2) Sweet Tart
3) Sugar Loaf
4) LZ

...and a bunch of stuff tied for 5th

[johnb51]

I haven't seen many LZ this year; maybe they were too good to let go?

My favs this year have been, in order:

1) Ceci Love
2) Sweet Tart
3) Sugar Loaf
4) LZ

...and a bunch of stuff tied for 5th

I'm quoting you from June 26: LZ is not the GOAT, there is no such thing, but LZ is not even top 5 to me anymore; and that is just looking at flavor.

[Oolie]

I haven't seen many LZ this year; maybe they were too good to let go?

My favs this year have been, in order:

1) Ceci Love
2) Sweet Tart
3) Sugar Loaf
4) LZ

...and a bunch of stuff tied for 5th

I'm quoting you from June 26: LZ is not the GOAT, there is no such thing, but LZ is not even top 5 to me anymore; and that is just looking at flavor.

Sounds like it totally redeemed itself this year.

[roblack]

Yes, some LZ redemption. Think my taste buds have just changed, and I appreciate other flavors more now.

Had a really good OS today as well.

[johnb51]

I tasted Orange Sherbet for the first time today (from ZHPP).  It was picked green and took six days to ripen.  I don't know if that's optimal for this variety.  The flavor was very reminiscent of oranges.  I find PPK to be more richly flavored and sweeter, but this is based on only one OS fruit.  The seed was large as well.  Is this normal?  I'll comment on Piña Colada after I eat the second one.

[johnb51]

Does anyone have an opinion about this?  If a mango is picked green and after one week it's still hard and green (well starting to show a little yellow), was it probably picked too green?  The mango in question is Karla, which is supposed to be a mid to late mango.  I'm thinking that Zill may still be picking their mangos too early, which has been a problem in the past with them.  You see 95% of the mangos in their office/shop being sold green with no color.  Also, I overheard another customer asking about a particular variety, and the lady in the office (who seemed uncomfortable talking to customers) said it wasn't grown by them.  Does anyone know who else they might get mangos from?