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Hey everyone looking for advice. My wife daughter love passionfruit, and it the growing of such that results in them supporting my crazy obsession. So I’m looking for the way to get the most yeild. Due to my growing circumstances I’m willing to put more time in micromanaging the vine. FYI I have 2 vines each in a 35 gallon which I trained on a beam.its adjustable so I can can get right in there and hand pollinate and purine when needed.i kept it trimmed in the winter and then let it go on the spring. I fertigate weekly.

Question should I terminate the budding limbs to promote better fruit production? Some vine ends have between 5 and 11 flower buds and there are 14 of these limbs on each vine. In the past by letting it grow wild and hand pollinating with a brush on a stick (probably missed a bunch of flowers) I was able to get 50 fruits. 200 per plant seems to much. Any experience with acitvelt managing a vine. I’m wondering if it’s like grapes in a vineyard.

Here are pics with the aluminum beams in the down position, the up, down from
The indside, and the vine limbs that one has 2 flowers and 11 buds.
 









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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Fertilizing blueberries
« on: March 26, 2024, 10:24:29 AM »
Youngster, what concentration of sulphuric acid do you use? Or are you simply acidifying your water down to a ph of 5ish?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gardening
« on: March 26, 2024, 10:19:45 AM »
Murahlin,
Thanks for the info, I appreciate all the work you do keeping this site clean and organized. Damn AI messing with our plant nerd speak.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: March 25, 2024, 01:08:32 PM »
I had the pleasure of seeing and nerding out over K’s tropical orchard in person. Very generous with his knowledge, and advice. Pretty amazing setup, as good as the pics are they don’t do it justice. Thanks for inspiring me to get into grafting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gardening
« on: March 24, 2024, 11:26:02 PM »
What happens with these, as moderator can u just remove? There is a cbd post as well on this forum.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rice Husk Ash (RHA)
« on: March 24, 2024, 11:07:38 PM »
Have you look into converting it to biochar? I’m sure there is specs on the them temp needed to do it with rice husk. You can then “activate” it (make it a nutrient resevoir) by running bokashi leachate through it. Bokashi is basically fermented organic waste. The easiest way to make it is using lactobacillus (kombucha bacteria) to convert the sugars from fruit waste into a moderately acidic potassium rich solid waste which is easily composted. The liquid runoff is super acidic and the possum ions will bind to the carbon rich char and the acidity will neutralize any alkaline ash.

There is some potential/theoretical risk with producing poly aromatic hydrocarbons but these are also made by some natural wood decomposition.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Germinating hawthorn seeds
« on: March 24, 2024, 09:16:05 PM »
Thanks for pointing that out, I guess I’ll keep them. I wonder how accurate hawthorn identification is, they seem to hybridize easy and are hard to distinguish from what I’ve read.

As for other “native” berries I have got pubescens, ideaus,and articus also had pedatus (not from my region, I got it confused with pub.) articus grew like an out of control weed in my raised acidic beds.I  was trying to use it as ground cover between blueberries. It actually swamped my blueberries, had lots of flowers and no fruit despite 2 cultivars, but I only gave it 2 seasons and then removed most of it. Ideaus grows just fine for the wildlife, I have a different (yellow Ann) that I cultivate for berries, needs pruning but gives 2 harvests per year. Pubesc. was just planted last year, I wanted a trailing white flowering plant for my front yard ornamental  “English white” native garden. I am trying native strawberry for that as well.

I have a couple ribes as well but most are cultivars as they are my wife’s favourite and I need to keep her on board with my plant obsession. I have golden current but the jury is out on that one still, grows well only a couple of fruit and birds beat me to them. Native black current flowers well but no berries yet.

I have native grape for the birds and hardy cultivars of which valiant is the best.

 I’ve got haskaps but all are cultivars that most likely have European and Asian genetics.

For serviceberries autumn brilliance is the best, standing ovation tastes pretty good and is a nice columnar form. I’ve got other local Saskatoon cultivars that had poor productivity due to soil compaction and rabbits, they should do better since moving and wiring.

 I’ve got other “edible” ornamentals; mountain ash, Nannyberry, sand cherry (very tasty if you can’t grow sweet cherries) and some Aronia which are supposedly melanocarpa (taste good but astringent) but as suspicious are hybrids. I also have some sambucs cultivars which are supposedly native too, but few fruit so far.

Next on my list are native plums and some pin cherry.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Germinating hawthorn seeds
« on: March 22, 2024, 08:41:38 PM »
I’m working on trying to convert my whole yard to native plants. Not many native nurseries where I live. I am working on growing a lots of plants from seed that aren’t available locally. No one seems to be growing succulenta, I accidentally got douglasi seeds cause one website said they were native to my region, I think they were incorrect. I may try to sell my douglasi seedling to a local bonsai club if they successfully germinate.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rice Husk Ash (RHA)
« on: March 22, 2024, 12:36:47 PM »
Any studies on accumulation of toxic metals? I went through the same process looking up birch ash. I think for rice leaf cadmium etc may be of concern for bioaccumulation.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Germinating hawthorn seeds
« on: March 21, 2024, 11:14:56 PM »
Nice to know there are others like me to share info with.Ill give updates as they happen. What are you growing yours for?

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Baratha,
Thanks for the suggestions. Right now scrambling to make up time getting up to the redwoods as we took a big detour to see big sur (hwy 1 landslides). I’ll try to check those out when we get back to LA, perhaps I can drop my wife and kids off at six flag as I look around.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Salacia Chinensis Lollyberry?
« on: March 16, 2024, 11:13:36 PM »
What is this fruit? I had a pie made of this on a trip in Moro bay in California. Does anybody grow this? How is it?

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K,
I got a small one this time only 20ft, we (my wife and kids) are used to 24-28 but I was worried about urban driving. I’ll try to catch those at the end of my trip (returning to LA). Thanks for the offer, we are kinda winging it so I don’t have a formal itinerary yet. I had planned on hitting Yosemite by I didn’t know that the sierra mountains got 5 feet of snow a couple of weeks ago. I’ll let you know if we can take u up on your offer. Thanks and much appreciated.

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Hey I’m a cold climate prairie boy from Canada who is used to seeing tropical fruit trees in greenhouses. I’m currently travelling with my family in an rv from LA to the redwoods. Any cool fruit tree places to check out?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees for 25 gal pots long term
« on: March 12, 2024, 08:50:36 AM »
What has people experience been with specific species root pruning? I have done fig, guava, feijoia, 35 gallon Meyer lemon (pruned to bear roots) and all have done well but were all healthy at the time. I am wondering about mango specifically, I have finally be able to grow them healthy in pots (7 gallon deep ceramic) and wonder what is the ideal container size to allow fruiting indoors.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees for 25 gal pots long term
« on: March 09, 2024, 09:34:24 AM »
#25 pots are inadequate long term for most sub-tropical fruit trees. The #25 is only 24” wide witch is very limiting to the Spreading feeder roots of fruit trees. A 30” tree box is better with an equivalent of 45-50 Gallon container. Even better and more ideal is a 36” tree wood box which is equivalent to a 75-80 gallon pot. The feeder roots do better with a wider container with more depth. Healthier roots equate to a healthier tree overall in my opinion.

Johnny

Do you have any experience with these? Can u show pictures? Do they function similar to the container orangerie in versailles where they remove one side at a time to versailles? I have most of my productive specimen trees in 25 &35 gallon elho pots. They are durable, relatively easy to move and easy to repot/root prune. But I am always looking for new ideas and techniques.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Dwarf Clementine help needed
« on: March 05, 2024, 02:21:11 PM »
Read Millets old posts about hort oil concentration backpack sprayers safety etc. I used to have a problem every spring in my greenhouse with hard/soft scale and more recently mealies. I took Millets advice and sprayed with 1% hort oil 2x (3 mo apart) over the winter. This spring I may find a pest once per week, which I hit with a narrow blast from a bottle sprayer with 50% isopropyl alcohol and 3% soap. Everything looks super healthy. On top of the pests I think it may also help with powdery mildew on mango.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Moving a Guava
« on: March 02, 2024, 12:35:51 PM »
Greener, is it truely seedless? How does it compare in taste to a ruby supreme?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Foliar Feeding Micronutrients
« on: March 02, 2024, 10:43:08 AM »
Do they taste bland?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indoor bananas
« on: March 02, 2024, 10:42:29 AM »
You can’t prune banana trees they are just like grass. Dwarf namwa needs 14feet of vertical height if you have it in a 35 gallon pot (pot included in final height). You need a big pot if you want a bunch of bananas. You can check some of my old posts to see how crazy the roots get in a pot.

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For my money, hyuganatsu is the closest, but the flavedo isn't great (the albedo is.) There are other more obscure citrus with reportedly sweeter pith, but I haven't tried them, and I like the flesh of hyuganatsu so much that it's hard to imagine something topping it. None of the Zanthoxylum-like numbing-bitter of kumquats and their derivitives, either.

So that’s what is causing that funny feeling when I eat red limes, the internet told me I had an allergy

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Moving a Guava
« on: February 21, 2024, 07:20:07 PM »
I had a ruby supreme in a 25 gallon pot full of roots with a multi trunk stem. For a while I could not control all the pests on it when in my greenhouse. In frustration,  I cut back the roots to a 5 gallon sized pot and chopped off 3/4 of the branches in an attempt to kill it. 2 years later looking better than ever and holding 19 fruits.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Severe (to me) white fly on 3-4’ Meyer
« on: February 07, 2024, 06:24:08 PM »
There was a study saying you should use repeated sprays 0.5% soap solution. If u use higher concentration it also kills off predatory mites.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help can’t tell which side is graft
« on: February 07, 2024, 07:58:34 AM »
Orkine, Yeah I think you are correct, I remember the graft side not looking healthy and a shoot took off like a rocket. There was massive spacing between the nodes. Thanks

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Need help can’t tell which side is graft
« on: February 06, 2024, 02:32:26 PM »
I have a grafted kohala Longan that I let get out of hand. Do you think that the left side is the grafted one?




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