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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless papaya
« on: November 30, 2023, 08:43:59 PM »
In my yard, I get a lot of variability in papaya taste also.

More often than not, the seeded fruit taste sweeter but they are sometimes bland also as also are the non-pollinated seedless ones. Overall, I usually prefer the seeded papaya.

Remember to fertilize them to increase your odds of having sweet fruit.

The cooler months usually are better odds of sweet fruit than the hottest months.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Shade tolerant Mango Variety
« on: November 26, 2023, 12:48:08 PM »
Once it is living, the next question is will it bear fruit. I will go to that.

Carrie: Thick foliage bears fruit well  in low light when buried within the canopy with black material on the limbs but yet still bearing fruit often unknown to all till they fall from the tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Happy Thanksgiving !!!
« on: November 23, 2023, 09:48:09 AM »
Happy and Thankful to God for All His Daily Blessings.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fuyu Persimmon Tree- Broke In Half
« on: November 20, 2023, 12:36:36 PM »
OK Kaz, what's the total count??

You Solicited forum members to guess a total.... Why don't you follow through and give the total after Soliciting people to guess the number of Fuyu's??????????????????????????


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fuyu Persimmon Tree- Broke In Half
« on: November 19, 2023, 03:48:23 PM »

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: November 16, 2023, 09:46:40 AM »
We'll have to start new topic, "Mango Season 2024."
Per Lee Corso "Not So Fast"

If your able to keep the birds, squirrels, rats, etc. etc. etc. off Keitt Mango... In South Florida, Keitt mango are possible to hang on the tree Late into November as seen today...






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fuyu Persimmon Tree- Broke In Half
« on: November 08, 2023, 10:11:22 PM »
802

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fuyu Persimmon Tree- Broke In Half
« on: November 05, 2023, 01:53:18 PM »
I spent about 4hrs picking all the fruits from this tree yesterday, also thinned some fruits from the one next to it.

=======   FREE PERSIMMON OFFER ============     

If anyone can guess how many fruits I ended up picking after 4hrs of hard labor, you get a free medium box (USPS) of Fuyu persimmons.

You can make your guess here (only 1 guess per member), and I will give the box of free Fuyu fruits to the first 2 people that guess closest to the total amount of fruits picked.

-> You must be a forum member to participate. This contest will end on Weds, 11/8
-> Lower 48 states

Here's a clue ---> It was more than 320 fruits

 ====================================       

Hmmmmm I would guess but regardless of my guess and regardless of the amount of time till the contest ends, I see the winners posted already as per instructions unless you decide to change the above, "I will give the box of free Fuyu fruits to the first 2 people that guess closest to the total amount of fruits picked".

The first 2 posted guesses have won unless rules are revised, regardless of time... They were the first 2 and both guessed already and both were closest per the total set of first 2.

Perhaps the word "first"  should have been omitted. lol

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: November 01, 2023, 03:40:08 PM »
2023 Mango Season is truly winding down as only 2 months left in 2023...

Here's some live Keitt just hanging out today Nov. 1st 2023....

How do I get them to survive this long??? I pick trees far from the house first and wait till the end of the season to pick fruit on trees next to the house/patio. The squirrels/birds/rats/ & rabbits try to stay away from Elmer Fudd's back door...








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Natural Farming?
« on: October 28, 2023, 09:39:39 PM »
🐸My goal is to help Florida and humankind🐸
https://youtu.be/m81un5CKUk4?si=lqPaCYk4h36mF-OO
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3202163/

Below the video link there is the first study he lists and thus I assume most important to him but maybe not as I went to read the Discussion section of the reported study of many variables of weight/cholesterol/age/concentration of PFPA and Concentrations of PFOS levels; way too many variables for my liking. But regardless did you read what they wrote in Discussion as I'm not sure you did...

There is a significant Negative association between serum PFOS and a reported diagnosis of osteoarthritis.
That means less arthritis association than expected with highest serum PFOS individuals.

PFOA was reported to have a significant Positive association between PFOA and osteoarthritis.
The positive association of PFOA with osteoarthritis also appeared evident only at serum concentration above the mean of the US general population, suggesting a possible threshold effect for the association.

Soooo, they did find a positive association for osteoarthritis for 1 of the 2 (if serum concentrations were elevated above the mean of the US general population)....

Let's see what else they said clearly has a postive association for osteoarthritis::: 1. Female gender 2. Obesity, 3. Advancing age 4. lower educational level 5. poverty 6.Chronic comorbid conditions....7. Serum Cholesterol 8. Serum Uric Acid levels 9. etc. etc. etc. with many many things that have a positive correlation to osteoarthritis.....

Sooo, how is it that only 1 of the many many many positive associations to osteoarthritis is in your video is the one positive association that you tell us you are trying to get your friend and everyone else to believe is why he has osteoarthritis?

Yes, I see he does not agree with you for the reason he has osteoarthritis and perhaps many of the Eight other listed positive factors he feels is much more likely to be the cause of his osteoarthritis....

I do not recommend taking PFOS to increase serum levels of PFOS as they report a negative association between high serum PFOS and osteoarthritis.... I would suggest weight loss, lower your serum uric acid levels, get more educated, avoid poverty, avoid other chronic comorbid conditions by staying healthy exercising as much as your physician allows and see them regularly. These suggestions would probably be more meaningful to the world & your friend than your suggestion.

Nice pictures in video.... But tell me your opinion once instead of every 5 minutes in video repeating your harping on plastics and forever chemicals as the material cited does not agree with your opinion at least not the first listed....

I also like seeing you attempting more of a natural farming and seeing the native weeds growing with the editable plants.. I'm curious as to how fast they will grow vs. conventional practices and videos are a very nice comparison experience.

I do a lot a recycling plants/wood/etc. and also have an area that is close to but not as thick with natural plants as you.... So I will be looking for more of your farming efforts/ideas.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: who's still eating mango every day?
« on: September 09, 2023, 12:14:30 PM »
Two Valencia Pride (I guess I would have to call these pretty late season mangos as it's September 9th)  8) hanging out green reading Mango Thief Caught and enjoying the good news with perhaps another week or so left to hang out and read.

The ripe Valencia Pride is saying good by to it's friends as it's going into the frig for a spat before animal consumption (that would be me) removing the flesh and then it's hoping to make a future seedling tree.

The keitts are no where to be seen in the pics, but there are quite a few hanging around.   :)






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kent mango with green skin . . . .
« on: September 05, 2023, 01:10:45 PM »
Ladies and gentlemen, we are at peak Mexican Kent season. I picked up a dozen Kents at Aldi last week and they were absolute perfection.  Deep orange flesh, smooth as butter, and sweet like Sunny D. Relatively undersized as Kents go, but packed a flavor punch in a small package. 
Now I know that store bought mangos have a poor reputation, but these Kents were better than most of the FL grown mangos I had shipped to me this year.  At $.59 each, it was a steal. Get ‘‘em before they’re gone.

By your experiences, you seem to be describing what I see in most of my mango varieties during their fruiting season. The first mangos to ripen/fall off and on the ground of almost any variety, does so for a reason and.... it usually is not good. I expect first fruits of a variety to usually be less sweet and less tasty than middle to end of season variety fruits, and this is for all varieties I have and I have about 50 varieties.

 8)

I'm eating my next to last Kent now and it is far far better than my first kents a month ago. It is very sweet, with a hint of the tropical fruit punch type taste.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: August 29, 2023, 11:07:44 AM »
It's late August, anything other than Keitt left on the trees in Florida?
Just found a M-4 hanging nice on one of the trees still.

Keitt large, keitt smaller size seedling, Venus, Kent, Sweet Tart (1 or 2 hidden from birds), Mallika, Carrie.  ***last Nam Doc Mai is still on counter from 3 days ago***

LOL... At least 4 big green Valencia Pride hanging on the tree, just walked out & checked... lol...

Ok, since a lot of people do not understand that most mango trees can flower multiple times, I will include a Carrie threesome hanging, and a ripe Valencia Pride with two green hanging from a prolific tree that has had low anthracnose this year and is obvious still bearing fruit.... Big Keitt and little keitt seedlings bear through anthracnose no problem at my location also.






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This theory holds true for all fruits and vegetables!
Most people are unaware our imported fruits are not only picked green from foreign but boiled to ensure sub par taste and dissuade further ripening.

Another thing is I don't know if it's a western or American thing but we don't seem to like paying for expensive or quality fruits and vegetables.  Most people i know either grew up with fruits or immigrants that would pay premiumn prices. 

Lies have become the norm since the 1960's with Nixon on. Thus there is no reason for people to believe our produce is better than imported early picked. The public is lied to daily and the consumer just looks at the price and the size of the fruit and "hopes" it will be good tasting.

I see no solution to the problem.

Farmers markets, home sales, and places like tropical acres & truly tropical are our best bet for changing the public perception. But even then, many go back to the supermarket to take the gamble for "perhaps" getting a cheap good tasting mango etc.

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So what do you guys think is the main driver of these diseases, is it high rainfall or high humidity or a combination of both?? I have been to florida around fort lauderdale however im not familiar with all areas mentioned. So being inland from the sea is worse for mango diseases ? Is this because of a lack of salt in the air ?

Unfortunately australia  involved in commercial mango growing and research its all done in very dry areas
Opinions... Everyone has one so here's mine (IMO):::
Main driver: Temperature especially night time as 70's F is great for fungus growth.
                 : Temperature above 85 F to high 90's F is great to decrease fungus growth.

My 2nd choice: Humidity-both coast & inland S.Fl. plenty of moisture for fungus & bacteria growth. (Australia arid areas should have less fungal/bacteria growth if arid environment where trees are growing)

Possibilities for worse mango growth inland IMO::: Cooler nights (TEMPERATURE) in 70's vs. warmer 80's more common at coast and IMO 70's is ideal for fungus growth.

TEMPERATURE:::Either coast or inland can have higher than 85F with sunny skys which is great to decrease fungus growth especially Temperature increase with sunlight. Miami has overall higher temperatures day & night combined than Palm City as I'm north of them and thus is why IMO they have less fungal issues than at my location (both can have very high humidity).

IMO Rainfall = similar to humidity as close to 100 percent is rainfall. Both can get it.
IMO Salt in Air = insignificant distance to effects observed.


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The OS I have on Atalufo rootstock is indeed very vigorous and very dense. Going on it's 4th year grafted in and I still can't get it to hold fruit, it just wants to grow. I girdled a few branches that caused it to flower, but it shed the fruit and went right back to vegging when they were pea-sized.

over 30 yrs ago bought my property/house and it had a pig pen area that nothing wanted to grow in and still not sure why.
About 4 years ago planted a OS in that spot and it proceeded to send out blooms and fruit for 2 years in a row although only 3 ft tall. I've been throwing fertilizer on it and I got a little growth this year after picking off all but 1 fruit and fell off very early this year.

I took scions and grafted seedling trees this year and they are growing fine in other locations on the property.

So, yours grows with no fruit and mine fruits with almost no growth due to something in the soil at that spot.... So, if you like to experiment add too much of almost any mineral or change the ph to less desirable levels and see if you can get growth stoped without killing the tree and I bet it will bloom and set fruit next year... Just IMO.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How many people eat mango skin?
« on: August 11, 2023, 08:58:48 PM »
For some mangos it's almost essential to at least chew on the skin if you want to get all of it's flavors...

I've eaten many M4 this year and have come to the conclusion that IMO the skin must be at least chewed/scraped a lot to get the best chance of a coconut taste.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: August 05, 2023, 08:26:36 PM »
2nd/3rd/ etc. mangos this year still eating::: Carrie is typical for me in Aug. but this is the first year to get Glen on a few trees. I just finished a delicious Glen Just like in the spring. But I only have a few maybe 6 more after picking 4 on the trees (on more than 1 tree this partial bloom harvest late).

Trickling out slowly in Aug: Maalika, Orange essence, LZ, Sweet Tart. Valencia Pride, Cac, Super Julie, Tebow aka Young, Edgar, M4,Cotton Candy, Nam Doc Mai just saw 1 more on the tree.

Not yet half harvested: Kent, Venus, Rapoza.

Waiting their Day to Arrive: Various Keitt (They get sweeter and sweeter as the Day goes by) Awaiting sweetness to increase to top expected levels before selling. Only sold a few large Keitt after sampling a sweet tree's harvest but will not sell Little Keitt yet as IMO too soon at this location.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: M4 or Coconut Cream
« on: August 04, 2023, 09:07:31 PM »
 Brought in a few of my mangos today on the floor now...

I remember an ignorant guy that walked up to my house without saying who he was one day and asked what mangos I had and took one look at these type "beauties" lifted his nose high and turned for his car and left me at the door without saying another word.








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I see this search so often, especially by the "experts" looking for ways to decrease expense of trimming hundreds of trees after fruit harvest. The current way is by trimming part of the canopy after harvest. I will propose other ways for them to ponder:::

1. The relationship between canopy and root system. Instead of canopy reduction, focus your attention on root system reduction as there is a parallel relationship between the two.
One of the factors to consider is decreasing root size without causing root disease and some options will work better than others IMO but have not tried them, just imagined the outcomes.
A. Cutting roots with machinery like a ditch witch around the canopy; however this might be just as time consuming/expensive as just cutting part of the canopy.
B. Adding substances to the soil to stress the tree and decrease tree growth (this will probably increase the odds of fruit set and bloom the following year IMO).
     1. Borates/boric acid: already known to be needed in small amounts by the tree. However larger amounts should decrease root growth/canopy growth. It is just a matter of determining the dosage without killing the tree. It should be quicker/less expensive than canopy cutting reduction.
     2. Copper/various formulations: already known to be needed in small amounts by the tree. However larger amounts should decrease root growth/canopy growth.  Unknown dosage to stress the tree without killing the tree.
     3. Magnesium/chlorine: already known to be needed in small amounts by the tree. However larger amounts should decrease root growth/canopy growth. Unknown dosage to stress the tree without killing the tree.
     4. Calcium and all the other minerals: most minerals are known to be needed in small amounts by the tree. However larger amounts  of most should be able to decrease root growth/canopy growth.
     5. Soil Ph adjustments: once again root growth can be slowed by lowering/raising PH soil levels to unfavorable levels to decrease root and canopy growth.

Make the soil environment favorable to the tree when small and growing. Then change the soil environment to less favorable to growth once the tree is bearing fruit to your satisfaction and maturity size.

It is my belief that if you desire to save money/ time on tree trimming, these options should be explored more.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Orange zest mango
« on: July 31, 2023, 08:16:29 PM »
That's called fermentation.
Your probably right... Yeast + Sugar solution and there is a lot of yeast on these mangos at this time of year and a high sugary content in the mangos.
I enjoy drinking my wine about 10 days into the fermentation when the yeast are growing strong and really frothing/bubbling up the wine & by then given me over 5 percent ETOH.

No big problem as just a little alcohol produced; unless you get a little too much yeast in the G.I. tract from eating a lot... Then you can get A little extra Gas... lol...

Yeasty bread has given me those symptoms but I love yeast rolls and don't mind the side effects...



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarfing a vigorous tree
« on: July 30, 2023, 03:25:49 PM »

Summer pruning does dwarf a tree, some. I summer prune my trees about 6-8 times.

I'm planting 1000 trees in my new farm, and won't have time to excessively prune anything. a solution to managing both small backyard trees and large farms. you won't need to prune 6-8 times,
Some of my mango trees are over 30 years old. I have never pruned more than once a year and I often skip a year. I do not see the big deal in just taking off 1/3 to 1/2 of the canopy after harvest. IMO makes no sense to prune 6-8 times a year unless you are sculpturing the tree like at disney making it look like perhaps micky mouse.

IMO a big tree cut low should produce as much fruit as a runt dwarf tree that is probably more susceptible to not surviving those 30 years as a producing tree anyways.

I guess I just never understood this topic or the need for producing a slow growing runt tree that might die with disease before it ever produces fruit.

But then again, I have no problem handling a chainsaw...
following this logic, all grafted trees should be susceptible and die. What makes a tree grafted to itself more disease susceptible? it won't be a runt, it'll just be a leaderless grafted tree. If anything, trimming will give more chances for parasites to attack the tree than one graft, especially in wet climates. Plus, takes so much time when you have many trees. Grove maintenance takes lots of time if you do it without chemicals, and to add trimming to that would mean more days working haha.
Maybe in Florida and especially your property soil doesn't make them grow super tall and wide because of the special pH, sandy nature, whatever; my FL property is entirely coral and trees also don't grow as tall, and in my Costa Rica property mango trees are super compact probably because of high winds, but that's not always the case, especially in the real tropics with ultra fertile soils, as Nef described above.
Thanks for sharing your experience though.
"following this logic, all grafted trees should be susceptible and die." = FALSE

Satya, You have just failed your Reading Comprehension Test......

All = 100 percent = Total amount

This statement "that is probably more susceptible" implies lack of 100 percent probability.... It was illogical by you to say otherwise....


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dwarfing a vigorous tree
« on: July 30, 2023, 07:54:14 AM »

Summer pruning does dwarf a tree, some. I summer prune my trees about 6-8 times.

I'm planting 1000 trees in my new farm, and won't have time to excessively prune anything. a solution to managing both small backyard trees and large farms. you won't need to prune 6-8 times,
Some of my mango trees are over 30 years old. I have never pruned more than once a year and I often skip a year. I do not see the big deal in just taking off 1/3 to 1/2 of the canopy after harvest. IMO makes no sense to prune 6-8 times a year unless you are sculpturing the tree like at disney making it look like perhaps micky mouse.

IMO a big tree cut low should produce as much fruit as a runt dwarf tree that is probably more susceptible to not surviving those 30 years as a producing tree anyways.

I guess I just never understood this topic or the need for producing a slow growing runt tree that might die with disease before it ever produces fruit.

But then again, I have no problem handling a chainsaw...

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Unfortunately, regular customers often never experience end of variety mango tasting and leave depressed that the mangos were not as good as described. And they are often right.

Why? IMO mangos are seldom if ever as good at the beginning of that mango variety ripening season as at the end of the varieties season.

My wife says when a mango tastes like these taste, they are Honey Mangos... And that is how these end of variety season Maha Chanoks are tasting today. Super sweet, luscious, slick, slimy, dripping almost a honey lime hint. Just look at the pictures and you can see the richer yellow/lime colored flesh as we bite into it.

They were no where near as good a month ago. I did not like them as the flesh was mediocre sweetness and a mild yellow hint of color even when tree ripened to outer skin being a full yellow color. That was about a month ago and with only a few left, my wife, I, and a few others are feasting on these delicious mangos end of season.

Reason for posting::: If you do not grow your own mangos, you will be lucky to ever experience the best tasting mangos from any mango variety unless you go weekly to the grove, person's stand, etc. and ask questions like how sweet is this variety in it's normal mango ripening phase? Of course they may say "They have no idea" and unfortunately that is often the case unless they love to sample their harvest often.

And.... lol... Your odds of buying a grocery store processed mango at that varieties peak flavor? lol  IMO less than .1 percent...











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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: water temp 100+
« on: July 26, 2023, 12:15:57 PM »
Change is Inevitable:::

https://floridakeys.noaa.gov/ocean/limestone.html

 NOAA: Previous Higher Sea Levels covering the Florida Keys:::
"They are island remnants of ancient coral reefs (Upper Keys) and sand bars (Lower Keys) that flourished during a period of higher sea levels approximately 125,000 years ago (a period of geologic time known as the Pleistocene Epoch)."

 NOAA: Previous Lower Sea Levels
"During this time of lower sea levels, the Florida land mass was much larger than it is today and the area now referred to as Florida Bay was forested. As glaciers and polar ice caps started melting 15,000 years ago, flooding of land combined with tidal influence changed the geography of the Keys and their surrounding areas."

Just noting the earth fluctuating with time:::
NOAA: Old data of 1936 July Heat Wave
https://www.weather.gov/ilx/july1936heat#:~:text=July%201936%2C%20part%20of%20the,people%20died%20from%20the%20heat.

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