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I'll take it all!! Don't mind me some natural disasters to help humble us.

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I've got some big M californica trees on my land. Can send you seeds when they are in season if you are interested

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 07, 2023, 05:17:13 PM »
I've got some established Yangmei from the last order in 3g pots: Have Biqi and Wusu. Let me know if anyone is interested in them. They did have RKN coming in, although they don't show signs on the roots currently. Buyer purchases at own risk.

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Would these be shipping from Hong Kong?

i never really bothered to look into bringing plans in from overseas b/c in general the risk of getting destroyed if there are any pests.  However, for us in Hawaii, the trouble is even if Jason sends the phyto to with your plants, USDA will still give the Hawaii DOA the right to inspect.  But since this is a Myrtaceae and is flagged as a source of concern re: Rapid Ohia Death, they would probably reject your order and have it destroyed or sent back. 

Not to say I wouldn't mind having a variegated scarlet.

I've had Myrtaceae returned when trying to ship from California where there is no threat of myrtle rust. Ain't no way those are coming in from over seas haha

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Troubled pitangatuba in grow room
« on: December 24, 2022, 11:12:34 AM »
What are your temps like at night?
I've got about 20 ir so planted and they purple up alm through fall and into spring

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I grew out a bunch of candy roaster this year. Got a whole lot of em still.  Lemme know if you want any

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Syzygium australe Fruit Report
« on: December 01, 2022, 07:01:22 PM »
I've got a hand full of leuhmannii. Really looking forward to that one due to its supposedly distinctive flavor

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Ohhh I see. Awesome. I'm big into collecting the Australian Syzygiums.  Got quite a few in the collection right now. Anything stand out to be a favorite for you?

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I have a Syzygium oleasum that is doing quite well in Houston, haven't tasted the fruit yet.

I would not recommend growing Syzygium smithii- the fruit is not good unless there are some newly selected cultivars I am not aware of-

I am going to make a new post about what I think is a paniculatum plant I found on the Stanford Campus

Syzygium smithii is a very variable species, and very widespread. There are ornamental selections. Very ornamental garden tree.
No fruit selections. I was lucky to find a spot where the population has puffy fruit. Not particularly great as a fruit, but pleasant enough for my tastes.
A bit like floury slightly sour apple.
Syzygium oleosum  fruit is fairly similar to paniculatum from memory, but it has been a while since I ate the fruit.
Paniculatum is a very common garden tree in Australia, but endangered in the wild, and only known from a limited natural area.
Looking forward to your post about Stanford Campus.

Where have you tried S. smithii? I grew up in the bay area and have seen a lot of the syzygiums in the area but always surprised to find some. The ones I've seen are at SF arboretum and UCSC arboretum. The ucsc arb has some s. smithii with good sized fruits.  I've found some really nice sized paniculatum in the menlo park/santa cruz area.  Fruits the size of a quarter and really deep pigment! 

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I sell plants on my website!  www.wildlandsplants.com

BTW the kadsura I bought from you is doing great!  Had 2 blooms this year but no fruit

Awesome to hear! Definitely fun having the thrill of the hunt on ebay haha

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I sell plants on my website!  www.wildlandsplants.com

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar Cane In Cold Growing Zone
« on: November 20, 2022, 11:45:53 PM »
I'm trying to grow a couple of different varieties in Santa Cruz, California, zone 9b.

This green/yellow one does really well, as well as a purple variety. Definitely looking for more.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Allspice seeds and Berries
« on: November 09, 2022, 03:37:49 PM »
Got the seeds!

Thank you Patrick!

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I'm down! Sounds fun

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: October 16, 2022, 09:00:48 PM »
All my plants are doing well.

Grafted plants certainly thriving and growing much more than the potted RKN plants that are at my home and not my farm. 
I'm going to uncage my in the ground grafted plants early november and hope they should take the transition smoothly and explode with growth next year.  I'll try and get some pictures this week.

Side note: I haven't treated the potted yangmei we imported from china for RKN and the new roots are looking very healthy.  Does RKN usually affect the older root tissue or do they also damage new root growth?

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Hey Scott,

I haven't grafted Lucuma but I've talked to Ben Porier, another SoCal CRFG member, and Reedo on the forum (who has given me a grafted plant he succeded with). 
Ben mentioned that you have to wait until you start to see buds forming and getting ready to push before selecting the scion for grafting. I also heard this from that other SoCal CRFG member.  Reedo grafted them in mid-late summer and was successful with about 3 out of 5 plants (I think). He cleft grafted these plants and tried to do a side graft as well but that did not take.   I'm probably going to try and attempt some grafts this spring/early summer and see how it goes.  I've got an airlayered plant and a seedling that started flowering. 

Have a good one Scott!

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I think the advantage of the New Zealand varieties are bigger fruit and thinner skin.  The best tasting ones for me have had larger locules which I think is the best tasting part.  The outer areas can be thick and gritty, but easy to scoop out the middle with a spoon.  If you find better varieties, I think they are really good but some suck.


I forget where I heard this but I heard that alot of varieties have been selected for with maximum grittiness and minimum locule 'jelly'.  I agree that the locules are the best part.

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Thank you for that information.  I have a P. salutare planted at my farm and forgot to hook it up on irrigation in the spring.  The plant survived all year through multiple heat waves without any supplemental water. I am in a grassland ecotype so it sounds similar to its natural habitat. Cool!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cutting quarantine??
« on: October 07, 2022, 09:36:02 PM »
You likely won't have any issues on the California end although if you did it at large enough quantity you'd want a nursery permit and the permits to ship to states that have ag restrictions. (Snail master permit, Sudden Oak Death, etc.) but not really necessary if you are doing small amounts.  I had a package get abducted by the USDA in Missouri even though I had permits, no idea what happened there. Super weird. Otherwise it's pretty easy shipping plants around with no permits.

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I think selling a species $350+ is equivalent to listing species for $350.  It is still taking advantage of the situation and prices even if it's customer's driving them up. (I've done it too).

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Exactly dude. I would never list a seedling or seed for $350. I’ve only always listed for a penny - $15 and let the market decide everything. When I can give species out to the community for cheap, I do it!

Yeah much respect, you've been doing a good job of making a lot of different species available at a fair price. Thanks Kameron!

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Jonah, seeing these low seed prices from a reliable seller is probably a good sign that inflation is over.
Buying reliably fresh rare seeds sourced from Brazil for cheap is all that we have been waiting for. Thank you BellamyTrees!

Same seller as the $350 seed.

 
I remember when eugenia langsdorffii once came in the seed sold for $350 on ebay
Now it's $6
How the times have changed!
Glad I didn't put in my order yet!
Once again, shoutout to a great seller!

I think it's moreso that the seed buyers that are willing to spend the money on a hype seeds got theres and the more general market is only capable/interested in paying a more "reasonable" price.  It was an artificially inflated market IMO. i sold a seedling for 500$. It's all about hype, honestly.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: July 27, 2022, 07:30:34 PM »
Yessiree, m californica

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: July 26, 2022, 09:58:33 PM »
I just put manure down around most of my orchard and uncaged the Yangmeis for a bit to put some poo on em, they sure are looking good!
Took a picture of the Crystal that I had grafted up, it's grown quite a bit.  They really explode when they get in the ground. This tree is planted right where I had done a big burn pile earlier in the year.




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I've shipped out a couple hundred orders with the same method and only had a couple of problems early on in when I was first getting things figured out.  I put a piece of packing paper in the pot, wrap it with plastic wrap leaving the plant sticking out, to ensure that there is no soil movement and the plant is able to breathe.  I then take a 24" corrugated cardboard roll and tape the plants with one piece to the inside of the roll, on the edge, and roll them up to make a rigid 24" tube with plants inside.  I then take that roll and put it in a 24" long box that is very durable.  The key is really to make sure your package is "rigid" through and through. The less movement going on inside the box, the better the plant will fare. 

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