Author Topic: Which Jackfruit to pick out of Gold Nugget, J-31, Orange Crush, or Small?  (Read 2682 times)

Rex Begonias

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Thinking about buying Jackfruit at tree sale this weekend, which would be best choice of those 4?  The oranges/reds have always sounded good to me, but never tried one.  Anyone have any experience with these varieties?

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Why those?  J30 is better than J31.  Red Morning, TM Red and Bangkok Lemon are far better choices.
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Thatís just whatís available.  I may hold out, I donít know a lot about jackfruits tho Iíve had seedlings growing in pots for years.  I love the fruit tho, so need to learn how to grow em for sure.

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Why those?  J30 is better than J31.  Red Morning, TM Red and Bangkok Lemon are far better choices.

 Remember the days when Excalibur Red was one of the most sought after varieties. How far has it fallen from the list of favorites? My tree has three fruits on it this year.  About 12 on my Mai 1.

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@Rex, what tree sale???

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Why those?  J30 is better than J31.  Red Morning, TM Red and Bangkok Lemon are far better choices.

 Remember the days when Excalibur Red was one of the most sought after varieties. How far has it fallen from the list of favorites? My tree has three fruits on it this year.  About 12 on my Mai 1.

The issue with the Excalibur Red was that many of the fruit were turning out to be yellow fleshed.  Curious to see what yours turns out to be...
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The flavor of Excalibur Red is good so I am willing to overlook the color. Lack of vigor on my tree is not good. The tree grows slowly so I have to limit the fruit count.

Of those available, Orange Crush would be the one I would buy. I have not tasted this fruit so don't put too much weight to this recommendation. My tree is growing in a spot that jakfruit trees seem to hate.  I have heard it was good.

Small may be a rename of Papi as promoted by Fairchild. I purchased a Small from PIN after passing on Papi. I hope the information I found that states they are the same is false. My Small tree (terrible name) has produced female flowers, which I have removed since the tree is too small to bear fruit. 

Gold Nugget has good flavor but has soft flesh which many are offended by. It is a vigorous tree.

J31 is medium soft with a bubble gum flavor that is a little too sweet for my taste buds.
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Thatís just whatís available.  I may hold out, I donít know a lot about jackfruits tho Iíve had seedlings growing in pots for years.  I love the fruit tho, so need to learn how to grow em for sure.

I got a j31 before I knew about this forum. It was probably a recommendation from fairchild back in the day.
It's been in the ground since 2014 and it's a decent enough producer.
I haven't really had enough different types of jackfruit to be able to pick out nuances in flavor. To me all them taste basically the same except for the amount of sweetness. Ideally id like one with some subacid flavor.
My biggest problem is the latex, it becomes such a pain to clean it that sometimes id rather let it rot on the tree. You can barely see the metal on your knife after your done.
Yes I did use oil.
Mangokothiyan let me try a Mai 1 and I'd replace my tree in a heart beat.

I need to go to a jackfruit tasting and learn what I'm missing

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Do jackfruit varities really taste that differently ?? I mean is it like PPK Mango to Sweettart Mango kind of difference or only slightly? All of the Jacks I've ever tasted, taste exactly the same, only with varying levels of sweetness.  And I've only fruited black gold in my yard, so I have not reference.  What do you think?  I have Bangkok Lemon, Berry, and Amber also, but they have not fruited.

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Do jackfruit varities really taste that differently ?? I mean is it like PPK Mango to Sweettart Mango kind of difference or only slightly? All of the Jacks I've ever tasted, taste exactly the same, only with varying levels of sweetness.  And I've only fruited black gold in my yard, so I have not reference.  What do you think?  I have Bangkok Lemon, Berry, and Amber also, but they have not fruited.
Yes, they have been cultivated for a long time and cultivars vary greatly in size especially,, latex amount. texture from rubbery crunchy to mushy and the flavors range greatly from sub acid fruity to cloying sweet

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On the same tree in the same year, the fruits can be quite variable with different balance of sweet to sour and sometimes texture can also vary.  A variety should not be judged on a single fruit.

Getting multiple jakfruit to ripen for a tasting event is not easy. The best I have managed is 3 varieties. Mangos generally dominate the tasting events.
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Thanks for help, guys.  I ended up passing on Jakfruit this time around tho I was almost going to buy an orange crush.  All of the graft unions had old rubber bands on them which the tree had healed around in most cases, which kinda wigged me out.  I didnít notice that with any other trees out though.


The Brevard Rare Fruit Club plant sale to answer HibachiDramaís question. 

Iím still interested in growing em tho, I still have a bunch of seedlings in pots.  Low latex and crunchy fruit would be my preference for sure, then also any positive characteristics of the tree like fruit production or ease of management.  I donít mind pruning the trees so probably a more vigorous variety would be fine for me.

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Fruit Tree Sale
Melbourne Auditorium
625 E Hibiscus Blvd, Melbourne, FL
8:00am, Saturday, April 24
They say arrive early for best selection.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2021, 05:07:45 PM by johnb51 »
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Red morning, excalibur gold, bangkok lemon, mai 3, and crunchy lemon are the trees I have fruiting that would meet the basic criteria you outlined. TM red and orange crush should also fit. Excalibur red is crunchy and low latex but I am not sure if my tree is low vigor or if the variety is generally low vigor.
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Red morning, excalibur gold, bangkok lemon, mai 3, and crunchy lemon are the trees I have fruiting that would meet the basic criteria you outlined. TM red and orange crush should also fit. Excalibur red is crunchy and low latex but I am not sure if my tree is low vigor or if the variety is generally low vigor.

The Ex. Red I had was upright and vigorous.

The Amber and Berry seedings that are around Florida produce excellent tasting fruit.
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I grafted a few and planted a second excalibur red tree. Unfortunately, the spot I selected was a solid limestone mound with very little topsoil. I busted up the limestone as much as I could with a jackhammer and raised the top soil some but I will probably end up with two low vigor trees. 

I have a fruiting berry seedling and have tasted a fruit from another. Both I would rate medium for firmness, not anywhere near crunchy. The other I tasted was excellent but the owner states the fruits are highly variable and some are lower quality. Mine has good flavor but tastes like a combination of the other berry's flavor and amber, but not as good as either. We have no idea how close the seedlings we have are to the originals.  I would not plant a second generation seedling and expect to get a fruit similar to the originals.

Red morning, excalibur gold, bangkok lemon, mai 3, and crunchy lemon are the trees I have fruiting that would meet the basic criteria you outlined. TM red and orange crush should also fit. Excalibur red is crunchy and low latex but I am not sure if my tree is low vigor or if the variety is generally low vigor.

The Ex. Red I had was upright and vigorous.

The Amber and Berry seedings that are around Florida produce excellent tasting fruit.
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I grafted a few and planted a second excalibur red tree. Unfortunately, the spot I selected was a solid limestone mound with very little topsoil. I busted up the limestone as much as I could with a jackhammer and raised the top soil some but I will probably end up with two low vigor trees. 

I have a fruiting berry seedling and have tasted a fruit from another. Both I would rate medium for firmness, not anywhere near crunchy. The other I tasted was excellent but the owner states the fruits are highly variable and some are lower quality. Mine has good flavor but tastes like a combination of the other berry's flavor and amber, but not as good as either. We have no idea how close the seedlings we have are to the originals.  I would not plant a second generation seedling and expect to get a fruit similar to the originals.

Red morning, excalibur gold, bangkok lemon, mai 3, and crunchy lemon are the trees I have fruiting that would meet the basic criteria you outlined. TM red and orange crush should also fit. Excalibur red is crunchy and low latex but I am not sure if my tree is low vigor or if the variety is generally low vigor.

The Ex. Red I had was upright and vigorous.

The Amber and Berry seedings that are around Florida produce excellent tasting fruit.

Agreed.  I would want to graft off of one of the better first gen seedling.  FL Native has an Amber seedling tree that produces real good quality fruit.
- Rob

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Bullie is right about the J's and the Gold. If you can lay your mits on J33 or even heaven forbid J36, a real amber , Vietnam lemon then that would be ratcheting it up to the next level. The gold series originated in the my area and they are really yesterday's heroes.

 

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