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There's no hate here. Just when you call people trolls and imply cowardice behind screens when it's the internet. That's provoking a virtual battle. A comment I made on the price rising was wrong. I should have not said anything since theres so many fragile people here that take a penny so seriously( maybe me lol).  I mistake the competitions lower price for his rising. It didn't rise, it was always higher. Go buy em up people. I'm not supporting a community that thinks it's ok to imply cowardice behind screens like you need a face to face fight? Who thinks their not hiding behind a screen when your on the internet?  I don't take kindly to that. It was all price talk til things got personal and Joe started crying about having to work hard for $. I have safety equipment I wear all day but I thank it, not complain about. Moral of the story I shouldn't have mistaken a price hike for being 33% higher priced overall and to insinuate what he did was wrong as well. The ego of being the only person to have true seeds is insulting to the other kind sellers as well. You all don't know me or what I've done for any community.
Sorry Joe and community. I understand how much effort that is for you now. Forgive me for being wrong and bad mouthing you. Just don't expect people to be kind when you say stupid things like trolling and implying cowardice.
Dan never gave me a bad name so I didn't apply any to him. Was Boomer supposed to be insulting?  I'm going on 5years working alone and it's booming most weeks lol.  You all were just wanting to find a punching bag and didnt care who told what first lol. Here you go hit me, I can take some in return. I deserve it. Let er rip. My apologies.

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Thank you Timbogrow for your wonderful contribution to this thread and community, I would like to present you with the Boomer of the Year award for your work on exposing the legendary and respected Hapa Joe. Good job on being a master salesman too, 24K-- that's like a billion right? Impressive. Take notes, Joe!

I couldn't imagine how undeveloped my understanding of tropical fruits would be without your negativity and complaints rampant throughout this forum.
Your welcome Dan! Whatever you say. One might see it as a complaint but others might see them as truths. When you associate derogatory names to people expect an equal responce from me. I wrote 17 words in the first post without using g any derogatory names associated with members. I received quite a few, so I don't really care what your opinion is.

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My mistake on the price, you were just 33% higher priced than the other 2 sellers and didn't buy that from you. Now I have a good idea why not to fund your expeditions. The ego and rotten attitude towards clients. I don't want to sell seeds and be competing for $20s when my minimum sale is $700 all the way up to $24k. I have 0 intention to be in your trade. I just need a vacation. You really have mastered the obvious though, I still can't figure out how you knew I was hiding behind a screen? Is it the fact that it's the internet and not reality Joe? Or was that just a terrible attempt at insulting me? I don't have Facebook, snapchat, Twitter and all that crap. I don't advertise or go on any other platforms.

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Whoa, sounds like you got completely rustled dude! No way I did that alone. What a classy individual you are provoking fights with customers over a price hike comment. I did make numerous purchases from you but won't be donating the small price for seeds to you any more slaphappyjoe. 😉 a troll you call me for browsing the for sale adds. I think your a greedy, pathetic, ill mannered loser that sounds like you've had too much steroids providing fights over the internet. That's a troll bubba.

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 I don't need seed sales to survive on a vacation and bring back what I want. It's only been 7 years since I took one anyway lol. I saw 1 seed of yours went up 5$. That's quite drastic if you ask me, not 1 cent. From15-20 is an additional 33% onto original price. All is good not trying to rustle your feathers but if you keep hiking the price up and up others will step in and you'll lose that high number and the sales. 2c

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The free fertilizer guy here in town claims his fertilizer will revive citrus greened trees. You just pay for the time and stop other fertilizer for a year before his application. The Oak leaves are probably what he uses since there in such abundance around here.

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I don't see how the Oak would keep the psyllid from laying it's eggs on the citrus?[/b

It was discussed on the Citrus General Discussion.
Something from the oak helps the greening affected Citrus recover and reduces symptoms.
Oak leaf tea is used as a treatment in the trials.
Similar to the Finger Lime peptide, it imparts resistance / recovery.
You could grow 3 maybe 4 full size mango trees instead of a full size oak with a sad citrus under it.

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Wow, if that price rises another cent I'll be doing vacationing for seeds to sell as well.

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https://crec.ifas.ufl.edu/home-citrus/
It's a good read, but I'm done with citrus. Kaolin clay $$$ and reflective mulch??? Aluminum sheet metal cut with hole in 1/2 pie pieces $$$$$.....I would love it to have a cure and a future longer than 2-3 years. Mine was a seedling tree so it's more sad.

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Supposedly if you grow a citrus under an oak canopy with oak leaf mulch you are more likely to have less problems. I am experimenting with this currently in a neighboring wooded lot. I know I see a lot of citrus in pine farms under the canopy and they appear from the road to be doing quite well.

I don't see how the Oak would keep the psyllid from laying it's eggs on the citrus?
I have heard if you plant a guava tree close by the citrus the psyllid that spreads the greening
prefers the guava leaves?
Had guava right next to my lemons from reading the same as you. Didn't do shit but make a cloud of aphids e ery time you brushed the leaves.

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In my opinion the citrus industry has no future in florida unless we take measures to destroy all the plants for a decade or more so that MAYBE there is a future industry. They don't care about that though with the amount they sell their only in it for $ and don't give 2 hoots what happens or how resistant they are to disease. My 2 verigated lemons I have 3 yrs now just started flowering and now seems the nematodes are devouring the roots and the canopies are thinning out, looking like crap. Too much work to replace trees every few years to keep the disease alive. I'm never buying another stupid citrus tree anyway. Mango is king anyway so don't waste your 3 years to have you plant eaten up above and below ground.

Are you doing anything special for the nematodes to not bother the mangoes?
Absolutely not, lol. They do great with little effort. Like i said previously they attrackt every pest south florida has to offer . And  is a full time losing battle plus the fruit isn't very good anyway. I can buy about 12 types of citrus from the grocery store at any time of the year. I can buy 0 varieties of mango at the store that are good.

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I replaced the citrus with a citrus mango 😆 🤣 😂.....orange sherbet. Good luck competing with that flavor sour orange.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Would GOOD sugar apple seeds float??
« on: February 02, 2023, 07:43:37 PM »
I put a paer towel over the top of the water to break the surface tension. That way the seeds actually soak.

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R.I.P.


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Dont forget to give credit to every big box store selling the citrus trees like candy.
I say the same thing when all they sell are magnets for problems. I like taking care of a challenge but a treatment doesn't cure much anything.

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I'm gonna go chop out my caterpillar/sri lanken weavil/aphid/nematode/canker buffet so I'll be free from now on. I can't bear the though of feeding the problem.

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South florida says there's no point and if you keep buying them the end isn't in sight. This property had all kinds of citrus dead as dead gets, I tried bringing some back but there's no point. and even if you have a good rootstock that things gonna get infected above ground eventually. The nets good for above ground problems (til the thorns and wind rips holes in it and your wallet) but won't do a thing vs nematodes. Florida citrus industry is a ridiculous battle for what, to keep the chemical pesticide companies in business? A mediocre orange/yellow fruit I can buy at the store is not worth the effort. There's too many other trees that perform 100x better without the pest battle. Your going to me mad as heck 3 years later when your ripping the dumb thing out and you got nothing to eat. Big waste of effort.

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Those little Champs are about to explode with growth from up potting! Glad to have gotten them.

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In my opinion the citrus industry has no future in florida unless we take measures to destroy all the plants for a decade or more so that MAYBE there is a future industry. They don't care about that though with the amount they sell their only in it for $ and don't give 2 hoots what happens or how resistant they are to disease. My 2 verigated lemons I have 3 yrs now just started flowering and now seems the nematodes are devouring the roots and the canopies are thinning out, looking like crap. Too much work to replace trees every few years to keep the disease alive. I'm never buying another stupid citrus tree anyway. Mango is king anyway so don't waste your 3 years to have you plant eaten up above and below ground.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best time to graft loquat?
« on: January 29, 2023, 07:40:47 PM »
I grafted about a dozen or so about a month ago. All are shooting out new growth now. Last year I grafted that same time of the year on plants in the ground and they all took as well. I covered the ones in ground with tin foil for about 10 days and then I remove the foil.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plant purchasing mistakes
« on: January 29, 2023, 06:17:19 PM »
Or some kind of genetically modified squirrels that protect the fruit from birds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plant purchasing mistakes
« on: January 29, 2023, 04:55:14 PM »
Yea that's a good one honestabe. I would compare that to me buying a guava tree cause they grow good......if the white flies don't fly them away while you wait for it to grow. There was a cloud of those things so big you didn't want to breathe. Lesson learned.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plant purchasing mistakes
« on: January 29, 2023, 03:30:19 PM »
I had to contact etsy support. I tried the easy way but the seller was so stubborn on ripping me off, treating me like an idiot, and keeping the money that he didn't want to refund me when I asked the first time. It was worse than pulling teeth. I'd love for him to have to refund everyone that purchased these "scamangos".

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plant purchasing mistakes
« on: January 29, 2023, 12:51:29 PM »
😞 sorry to hear that, I'm sure the # of us that got burned is quite high.......

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plant purchasing mistakes
« on: January 29, 2023, 11:37:21 AM »
You are welcome, glad to have helped someone save frustration/money.

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