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Can confirm Walter Andersen. Also Dixieline has carried it in the past, not sure they still do.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: big Gold Nugget mandarins
« on: March 13, 2025, 12:53:39 PM »
Had to share one more huge gold nugget. 16.5 oz.  Interesting to see the different shapes of Gold Nugget from the same tree. The flavors of these big ones are still very good, a little more water and somewhat eats like a pummelo.

Also I got my first ever seed from a gold nugget today. Excited to plant this out!







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Citrus General Discussion / Re: big Gold Nugget mandarins
« on: March 02, 2025, 09:38:13 AM »
How cold have you let your golden nugget get down to?

I'm in San Diego, zone 10b. 34F maybe? Not very cold.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: big Gold Nugget mandarins
« on: March 01, 2025, 11:36:10 AM »
Nice Gold nuggets, how big is the tree?
About 8’ tall, planted in 2020 or 2021. Gives good crops. Has not alternate bearer at all but have read they tend to do so. About 100 fruit this year

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: big Gold Nugget mandarins
« on: March 01, 2025, 11:31:26 AM »
That's a fine looking mandarin!  How did it taste?
Really good, maybe a little less intense/watery but delicious

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Citrus General Discussion / big Gold Nugget mandarins
« on: February 28, 2025, 08:49:50 PM »
Some of the fruit on my largest gold nugget tree is pretty big. Biggest that I can remember. I picked 2 today, 14.4 oz and a 1lb. Monsters. Most fruit on the tree is this size, and there is one even bigger but was still a hint of green on it. I also have a smaller 2nd crop on the same tree that is still green and growing.





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Ok, just my update, I attended a citrus tasting by a group of CRFGs here in SoCal last week. Now I found that these two mandarins were the best in class, 10 out of 10 rated by everyone who tasted them.

1. VI-501, US Superna, it is a cross of Lee x Nova mandarin.

https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/crc3991

2. VI-585, Miho wase

https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/crc4047

I had Miho wase grafted on my tree and never thought it tasted better than an average mandarin, but the fruits brought to the tasting was so sweet (but only measure brix=16) even though it tasted much sweeter.  Same with Lee x Nova, I thought it would measure much higher but it was brix=16 as well.

These two were the sweetest tasting with good flavor compared to all the navel oranges, pomelos, Valentine hybrid, Clemintine, and other mandarins.
We tasted all three of the TDE (Tahoe, Yosemite, Shasta Gold) and the two above were much better tasting, also better than my Gold Nugget, Sumo and the rest.

I prefer the Lee x Nova since I saw the tree at the host's yard, he had 3 nice large trees with hundreds of fruits on each. The skin on this fruit is not as soft as Satsuma so it should have a better shelf life, and it won't bruise if you keep it in a container/bucket on top of the other fruits.

I had first fruit of both of these this year and they were excellent, much better than page, owari, dancy, and Kishu. I’m on the fence about Kishu actually. It’s cute but so small and fruit isn’t consistent.

Anyway, I went down the research rabbit hole as well and had to have these mandarins, 88-2 lee x nova, and Miho. A friend of mine has a couple big 88-2 trees and it blew me away, had to have it! Kaz, I agree I think these 2 are in the top along with gold nugget, Shiranui, Shasta and Tahoe.

Also, if you are mandarin shopping you might like my tasting video of 8 different mandarins. I had my wife and daughter as testers. Unfortunately the Miho and 88-2 are early season and already all eaten so didn’t make the video. First time doing a video like this and it was pretty fun

https://youtu.be/aj_cOk9m8ak?si=roii0mYipblSy5tP


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Last year was largely successful. I grafted cocktail, bearss lime, New Zealand Lemonade, and 2KR Lemon. Xie Shan and Atwood failed. Running out of space, but nevertheless will likely purchase a few more varieties to add to my big trees.

Been spending more time on the hardy citrus side of the forum and am considering a Thomasville Citrangequat and a few other poncirus hybrids for breeding and rootstocks.

Xie Shan, some other mandarin, and/or a hybrid like Page Tangelo for smaller out of hand eating. Considering topping my finger lime and Nagami for varieties I actually enjoy.

My Lane Late Navel had its best crop ever this season, so instead of trying out Atwood again I'm thinking of getting Moro Blood orange to diversify.

Any variety reccomendations for Pomello or Grapefruit for consideration? What are y'alls grafting plans for this season?

You might try Shahani blood orange. Moro is the bloodiest, but Shahani is apparently sweeter / higher brix by quite a lot as is Boukhobza. It is lycopene blood orange I think, so not true blood orange? This issue of Citrograph has a write up of it and Boukhobza. I ordered both of these for the upcoming CCPP cutting.

https://citrus-research-board-static.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/citrograph/pdf/CRB-Citrograph-Mag-Q4-Fall-2020-Web.pdf

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My sumo tree, just took a few pictures today:
Great looking fruit

Here is one of my trees. They a still a somewhat tart but very good. They just don’t have the distinctive knob on top. Labeled Shiranui




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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Oro Blanco seeds
« on: January 27, 2025, 09:30:33 AM »
Could have been mislabeled?mu oro blanco were not sweet until recently

If you are in San Diego I’ll give you one to try, they are delish.

I need to get a brix meter

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Citrus General Discussion / Oro Blanco seeds
« on: January 25, 2025, 10:01:00 PM »
I saw an old post from 2018 where SoCal2warm grew out some Oro Blanco seeds.
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25082.0

I have not seen him post the resulting plants but I have a Oro Blanco with about 100 fruits this year, and have harvested about 30 so far and found 3 seeds. I do not recall ever getting seeds but I have some newer Triploid trees that have fruited this year, Tahoe Gold, Shasta gold. I got excited thinking I could make something new, like a huge mandarin or Cocktail like fruit.  I do have many many other citrus but Gold nugget, Star Ruby, and Olinda Valencia and Tango are the only ones in close proximity.

Can anyone explain how an Oro Blanco can be coaxed into making seeds and what the result might be?

Let me know your thoughts, thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare Ficus species
« on: January 06, 2025, 09:04:12 PM »
I would not bother growing it for the fruit. It is one of my favorite landscape trees and deserves a spot for that.

Also yes it grows in Florida although I don't know the range it would do well. However it apparently grows up in Georgia
https://woodlanders.net/products/ficus-roxburghii

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Red pomelo, legit?
« on: January 06, 2025, 10:49:19 AM »
Good work finding the name. There are a few gardening channels I watch with English captions on.

using your search term I found this video where the grower covers the fruit in black bags and says it turns the fruit more red.
https://youtu.be/la-_RVi2heo?si=z93kxxw8AU40uriw

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: vaniglia sanguingo fruit
« on: January 05, 2025, 02:59:29 PM »
I ordered budwood of this for the next CCPP shipment. We love orange juice and sometimes it would be really nice to have another juice to tone down the acid. Also thought about mixing it as Fruitmentor suggests with other citrus.

I also ordered the newer Shahani Red Navel and Boukhobza blood orange to compliment my other blood oranges. Both of these look really great and maybe better than the main 3 varieties.

However, Moro was deep red and delicious this year and sweeter than Sanguinelli. Actually both Moro and Sanguinelli looked nearly identical inside but the Moro had the typical blush on the rind.

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I will be trying auriculata / carica again this spring

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare Ficus species
« on: January 03, 2025, 11:25:41 AM »
I grow a couple ficus auriculata / roxburg, ficus triangularis, Morten bay. I used to have a sycamorous I grew from seed from Silverhill seeds, but kept forgetting to water it. Quite a few sycamorous around town, found another one today.
I saw somewhere that roxburg figs could be quite good, how are yours?
When they are red and soft they are interesting. Not bad, but not anything of interest compared to a nice carica. I see on YouTube they cook them while green.

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The basic one that comes to mind that I think is compatible with all those is C-35. I've been happy with trees on it here in San Diego.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: source for DaisySL?
« on: January 01, 2025, 11:03:54 PM »
Well since Daisy SL is under license and ccpp won't sell it I thought I'd try some other mandarins. Snowjunky I took your advice and placed a ccpp order for
ORTANIQUE LS. Happy to see if is a late season mandarin. I wonder how it differs from Gold Nugget in timing.
Okitsu Wase satsuma - top rated taste test by fruitmentor article from 2014. I have Miho and Owari
YOSEMITE GOLD The only one of the gold series I don't have. My friend has it and the fruit is huge.

Also got some US-942 rootstock wood coming.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Satsuma Tree - SoCal fruits
« on: December 29, 2024, 08:24:13 PM »
Valencia is always acidic tasting, will not improve. But good thing is, it will fruit a long time, my tree gets ripe fruits 3-4 times during the year when other varieties are not ready to eat. Cara Cara is not very sweet, like a pink navel. Washington navel is always sweeter and juicier. But the pink flesh is nice.


Regarding Valencia:
We bought a rental property that had a Valencia of some sort, looks about 15 years old, who knows. Anyway, it was ignored for years, had lots of dried fruit, shriveled, etc but also 2 distinct crops on it that looked good. The older looking crop looked fine but could tell it was leftover from previous year and the fruit had a little more give to them.  There was some newer fruit turning orange. The old fruit was picked and was the most delicious rich tasting oranges we have ever eaten. Then later on I heard this is done in Japan and they are called “2 year oranges”. So that is a way to get Valencia to not be as acidic!
I have a midknight Valencia and may add another Valencia just to alternate picking to do this

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Do you know if the Temecula mandarin is still growing there or did they remove all the trees now?

I ate these mandarins when they were selling them at some Asian market and it was really good tasting. The skin was more puffy and easy to peel, I didn't know where the groove was in Temecula.

There is an orchard there and the guys still own it. Trees look really unhealthy. I think these are what you are describing, "Temecula Sweet" a Satsuma/Ponkan hybrid. See article here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210508022906/https://www.latimes.com/food/la-fo-marketwatch-online-20120504-story.html

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: source for DaisySL?
« on: December 26, 2024, 09:15:53 PM »
I saw your post about Chislett and am interested in that. Wish ccpp had it. I know they used to have Daisy SL which I also wanted.  They will have upcoming budwood available of US942 which should be a great rootstock.

Wondering what other varieties have been purchased out of our reach. Kinnow LS and Fairchild LS are a couple

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Wow beautiful tree!! I don’t think I can have too many mandarins

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare Ficus species
« on: December 11, 2024, 12:53:02 AM »
I grow a couple ficus auriculata / roxburg, ficus triangularis, Morten bay. I used to have a sycamorous I grew from seed from Silverhill seeds, but kept forgetting to water it. Quite a few sycamorous around town, found another one today.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Making Labels
« on: December 11, 2024, 12:42:56 AM »
I’ve cut aluminum sheet metal (not sure alloy) and engraved them but they corroded beyond recognition when near the ground. Same with aluminum can tags, eventually they are really hard to read and occasionally really degraded away.

I recently bought a DYMO m1011 in the case, used. I wanted the more retro version but found a great deal on this one. Does aluminum and stainless steel tape. The embossing should be legible much longer on aluminum and probably near forever on more expensive stainless tape.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Satsuma Tree - SoCal fruits
« on: November 30, 2024, 11:59:36 PM »
I have a few older Oroblanco trees which always gets many fruits. My tree has fruit clusters like grapes, and these fruits weigh over 1lb each so I need to put some rope to support the branches before they break off. I had one side branch (2" diameter) that was holding 110 Oroblanco, the fruits almost got completely yellow before the entire branch broke off.

You might want to add the Melogold (VI323, sister of Oroblanco) since it is also seedless, but sweeter, not much sour taste at all. On my Oroblanco fruits I can taste a little sour after I eat it.

Thanks for the advice on Melogold - it's been in my ccpp cart a few times but never bought it. I will try it. I also have Banpeiyu pumelo, Thong Dee, Siam Ruby and Bakouzba on my list.

My Oro Blanco has about 60-75 large fruits a year but has not broken any branches. Mine also does the cluster growth, some branches must hold 10-20lb of fruit but no breaking. These branches recurve down to the ground and it almost looks like it's a bush citrus. Tree is only 5' tall but 8' wide.

My Gold Nugget broke several finger thickness branches last year and I was able to save a few with poly grafting tape and support and they've grown back and look strong but I'm keeping the fruit thinned this year.

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