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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best mangos of this season
« on: August 15, 2022, 06:55:23 PM »
My 2 cents on the M4, I tried it for the first time this year we got over 20 fruit from 3 grafts I did 3 years ago. I was excited for coconut flavor but the only coconut I got from the M4 was aroma - there's definitely a strong hit of coconut in the aroma (once you cut it open - before that no smell at all which is really weird if the only mango you know is Haden which has a powerful, heavenly scent when ripe). But in the flavor I got citrus notes, maybe some piņa colada especially near the shoulders. The flesh is sweetest at the shoulders and by the skin. Delicious mango.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when to pick this M4 (with pics)
« on: June 13, 2022, 10:14:48 AM »
The one I picked is yellowish near the stem. It was somewhat shaded but others I have in full sun are already looking more colorful. I think sun exposure is a relevant variable.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when to pick this M4 (with pics)
« on: June 13, 2022, 09:52:30 AM »
This is M4. All the M4s I've seen are pretty green when ripe. This tree flowered in December so it seems to be earlier here, or at least this year! This is also its first flowering so maybe that has something to do with it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when to pick this M4 (with pics)
« on: June 13, 2022, 08:38:56 AM »
Thank you for the responses! I actually picked it yesterday, having inspected it following the advice in the video Akin provided above. The shoulders were definitely more bumpy, the stem dark, but it was the lenticels that convinced me they were almost completely brown. So now I wait! I do have several more to work with so more chances to practice. Fingers crossed! :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when to pick this M4 (with pics)
« on: June 09, 2022, 10:52:09 AM »
My guess is full / raised shoulders, darkened lenticels and browning stalk = mature ready to pick.
See 3:30 point on this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4qSHrepLL8&t=439s
Loved this video btw thank you! Super informative and fun! :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when to pick this M4 (with pics)
« on: June 09, 2022, 09:00:03 AM »
Me too I'm waiting for all the M4S whisperers in the group to chime in! The shoulders on this one look pretty full to me. Chris at TT talks about a "stretched bottom" though and I can't figure out what that means. Also this one does have sort of a yellow tinge to the green... I don't know!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / when to pick this M4 (with pics)
« on: June 07, 2022, 01:02:03 PM »
Hi all. This is my first year with M4 fruit. This one pictured was the first to put on size and now is giving me vibes. But I have no experience and would love to pick at the closest to right time possible. What do the experts say?







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help picking M4
« on: May 18, 2022, 08:27:54 PM »
Thank you!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help picking M4
« on: May 16, 2022, 08:08:56 PM »
Any tips on picking M4? Average size of the fruit? I've got my first few this year. Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 21, 2022, 05:28:23 PM »
Brad, that's about the only kind of graft I do now a day. Easy, quick, works.
Yep, me too. I use it for avocado, mango, sapodilla, mulberry, everything. I usually don't top the branch/rootstock until the graft pushes or if it seems to be healed but not pushing. This is the only graft I've had good results with.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when to pick Oro Negro avocado
« on: December 28, 2021, 09:34:10 AM »
Actually mine got blacker and blacker but the shine came off and they got duller & less shiny. Most avocado do that, is my experience.
Yes that's what people say here (about green types) when they lose their shine they're ready to pick.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: when to pick Oro Negro avocado
« on: December 26, 2021, 12:23:21 PM »
Exactly the info I was looking for thanks to both! :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / when to pick Oro Negro avocado
« on: December 26, 2021, 10:49:34 AM »
Did a forum search but couldn't find this info - if I missed it please pass me the link. I have my first and only Oro Negro fruit turning black now. Any tips on how to know when to pick? With our Pollock's we mostly just wait for drops but I don't know if that's the way to go with this variety. Thanks in advance!
Zafra

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cecilove or Pickering?
« on: August 21, 2021, 07:20:32 PM »
 I'm leaning towards the Cecilove. I always enjoy these threads where people chime in on varieties. Thanks for the input everyone!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cecilove or Pickering?
« on: August 21, 2021, 01:08:04 PM »
I actually have Venus, M4, Haden, Phoenix, Maha, Kesar and Honey Kiss.  None are fruiting yet though I have high hopes for M4, Venus and Haden next year.
And you say you're getting Sugarloaf/E-4 for sure, then how about adding Cecilove and Orange Sherbet?  I think that would really round out your collection.
I forgot to mention I also have Cac.
E4 is definite. I was thinking Orange Essence instead of Sherbet though. I feel like I've seen more jelly seed complaints about OS, but maybe that was my imagination?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cecilove or Pickering?
« on: August 20, 2021, 07:31:53 AM »
I actually have Venus, M4, Haden, Phoenix, Maha, Kesar and Honey Kiss.  None are fruiting yet though I have high hopes for M4, Venus and Haden next year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cecilove or Pickering?
« on: August 19, 2021, 05:51:02 PM »
That's great info thanks. Unfortunately it still leaves me undecided lol. I'm getting 3, E4 is for sure, I thought Orange Essence, and the third was to be Cecilove or Pickering. According to Alex they have a lot in common if you don't count flavor, including compact tree size, disease resistance, productivity and precociousness, so I guess that leaves flavor as the deciding factor.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cecilove or Pickering?
« on: August 19, 2021, 11:22:45 AM »
Based on flavor only or including other criteria?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cecilove or Pickering?
« on: August 19, 2021, 10:53:10 AM »
Which would you choose of the 2?

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Perfect thanks so much!

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Looking at Presco tapes - what mil thickness is best? I want to be able to wrap good and tight. Thanks!

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I wouldn't have access to potassium nitrate, unfortunately.
You might be surprised. The commercial name in English for it is Saltpetre. It is one of the components of gunpowder so making it has long been a thing, also used in meat preservation, and chemical stump removers.
Using urine and wood ash you can make it, there are other methods.
https://survivalschool.com/using-urine-make-potassium-nitrate/
You're right I am surprised! Urine and wood ash I can get. Here's hoping that such measures won't be necessary though!

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I wouldn't have access to potassium nitrate, unfortunately.

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Thanks I have M4 so that gives me hope, and I'd like to get Cotton Candy so I'll keep it on the list. Mangos in general grow and produce in the tropics all over, some flower from drought stress during the dry season, some flower because they wanna flower :). But since these newer varieties were developed in Florida there's no way to know if they require cold stress to flower without trying them out. I'm just trying to find out if anyone here knows of any of these varieties producing (or not) in a tropical climate.

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That's a good question and I don't know the answer! But here we never get below the low 60s, so that's what I'm thinking about.

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