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Recipes / Re: What do you do with guavas?
« on: July 11, 2020, 02:26:33 AM »
If its Thai Guavas (the crunchy type), I pickled them ( vinegar and/or lemon juice, chopped red pepper and sugar) . Ripe guavas - mix with water and juice them at low speed for couple minutes ( so seeds not being grind), strain them to discard the seeds, then put back the guava juice into my blender and juice them again with crushed ice and sugar and sugar at high speed - this way, I do not have that seedy stone taste in my guava juice.

Recipes / Re: Re: Papaya
« on: July 11, 2020, 02:14:09 AM »
That papaya is rotting. Next time you get a papaya, lay it underneath with newspaper or papers. Turn it 180 degree daily so it can ripen . Once you see it start to have an indent, I suggest start cutting and eating it before it rots. You can also put in refrigerator for another day or two.

I think snake fruit is only available in Thailand, Indonesia and may grow in Hawaii but taste varies depending on soil. Plus, the orange variety (tangerine style) that you put grows only in Indonesia, which is much less acidic compare to tangerine or any oranges grown in U.S. I will try it when I travel to Indo, if, salak pondoh is in season.

Saw two or three of the Mexican cream guava trees at the Lowes Home Improvement store in Covina, CA about 2 weeks ago.  All the guava trees from Lowes and Home Depot come from La Verne Nursery in Piru, CA.  I've always had good luck with the guava trees from either store, but if it is a seedling it might take a year to three for it to fruit.  Just fertilize with miracle gro and water it well.  I used to have two of them, I didn't like the fruits and dug them up.   
I bought mine at Home depot and it bears a good amount of fruit every year. Thank you tspw88 for La Verne Nursery info. They close down the one in La Verne last year and I felt so bumped out because Colorama supply Home Depot with 6 packs of different colored bell peppers, eggplants, sweet and hot peppers .I always get them every year. Yet, I did not seen them this year in any nearby Home Depot.

Recipes / Avocado Smoothie
« on: July 02, 2020, 03:34:47 AM »
1 large avocado or 3 small avocado
12 oz crushed ice
8 oz milk or Lactaid milk
2 tablespoon sugar
1 tablespoon of coffee powder (optional)
0.5 tablesppoon of cocoa powder (optional)
Blend all till smooth - make approximately 4 -16 oz cup
once you pour into the cups, add about 1-2 tablespoon of caramel condensed milk or Hershey chocolate syrup.
Its filing and also an energy booster. Enjoy.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Moving to a warmer country?
« on: July 01, 2020, 05:32:07 PM »
Hi, what wonderful forum that i have stumbled upon!
I am in my early twenties and still haven't really figured life out at all.
One thing i know is that i love tropical fruits, and i really wish i could grow them. I live in Denmark where it gets quite cold in the winter, I've tried growing cantaloupe indoors, but i only got 1 ripe fruit, but it tasted so incredible.

I have been thinking about moving to a hotter climate a lot, I would love to be able to grow mangoes, cantaloup melons and oranges which are my absoulte favourite, do you have any recommendation where i should guide my eyes towards? I think having a concrete goal would help me achieve it.

I'm thinking both in where the fruit will thrive the most, but also where it might be feasible to move to as a foreigner.

Kind regards

Depending on financial situation - For U.S - I recommend California ( we have earthquake) or Florida (Sinkhole and Tornadoes) - but weather and fruits availability is super. Other more affordable country with easier immigration law would be Chille (South America), Thailand and Indonesia ( South East Asia). In fact, last year article selected Chile and Bali (Indonesia) as one of the top 10 best place to invest and retire as well. In U.S, we got many imported tropical  fruits from Chile and Thailand. But I have been to Bali - even the green banana are super sweets and the people are extremely nice and honest. The downside to those 3 places outside U.S is language barrier. Chile speak spanish, while Thai and Bali have their own native languages as well. Chile and Bali  are safer than Thailand ( got to consider safety, hygiene, immigration rules and pest). Also, health care are more affordable in those 3 countries, compare to U.S. But visit those places first and stay for a month or two (just make sure get bottled water - not their local water or ice if you do not want to get sick at least for couple weeks), explore and see if its right place for you.
Here in Southern California, we have a lot of citrus - many varieties, mango only half a dozen or so in the market. we have many different cantaloupes and melons as well but compare to those that I eat on Japan or Indonesia, our melon and cantaloupes are terrible. Those that never eaten melon and cantaloupe in Japan will consider the ones in California as O.K.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pakistan mulberry
« on: July 01, 2020, 05:08:47 PM »
Yes, in SoCal we have more humidity, milder winter and so far less heat this year. This affected many of my fruit trees and vegetable harvest. My peaches are smaller this year, nectaplum twice as big and my kumquats starting to flower again (not usually)after late harvest in April (supposedly February), just to name a few.

I eat my saturn donut peaches crunchy but if you like it ripe, touch the fruit and as soon as they are squeezable (gently), then they are ready. But pick them asap by then or the June bugs, birds, flies and rodents will start crowding your trees for fruits and pick up all that fell to the ground as well to prevent getting flies and other pesky rodents.

In So Cal, Maprang is an extremely slow growing plant even in a greenhouse. Ethan (former fastest grafter of the West!) could attest to this as he had them in his greenhouse before.
Let me experiment with different fertilizer and see if I can make it branch before fall arrives. I think I can afford to lost 2-3 plants but not all of them.I been wanting at least 1 of this tree in my backyard for years but I am too chicken to smuggle the seeds when I travel- so I just grind the fruits with some peppers and freeze them to bring back to U.S and add more hot pepper paste when I am ready to use them.

You could try find tree pots to accommodate your current seedling long tap roots.

My experience in trying to grow maprang in So Cal is that they do not do well when the humidity level drops to 1 digit. The plant could never recover from 1 digit humidity level and would slowly perish.

Currently, I'm germinating some seeds and the plan is to try grafting the seedlings onto mango rootstocks. I've done this before way back in 2012 or something. It seemed to work as the scions flushed 3-4 times before the whole plants died. I'm not sure if that was due to incompatibility or care issues on my part. So now that I have more times, I'm going to try this again. But it will be my last attempt at growing maprang in So Cal.

Thank you for letting me know. I will buy pots that fits their root. I will water over the plant leaves twice a day then to create its environment, just like my green syzygium semarangnese to promote new growth. I wonder of its behaviour will be like a mango. My Keitt mango (in 5 Gallon pot) is under my jujube tree grow a 3 feet new branch this year in 6 months. But since its next to my syzygium, it also got watered twice daily. 

I don't have any tips, but I have one of these growing in a ~18" tall rootmaker pot and it has been quite happy.  No insect infections or other issues for me.  I have barely paid attention to it and it went from 6in tall when I received it to 2-3ft now.
How long do it takes you to grow to 2-3 feet? Is your gandaria placed in sunny spot or shade? any flowers/fruits yet?

Brian, how long do you have yours? Any fruit/flowers yet?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: My small fruit tree orchard
« on: June 30, 2020, 02:32:24 PM »
I never seen fruits on pandanus amaryllifolus. But take couple leaf, cut them  about 5 cm size and put them when you cook rice in a rice cooker. If you like coconut rice, substitute the half the water with coconut milk and add some salt. They make your very rice fragrant.

Same here with mangojoy but I also want a to know how does the flower looks like and if its a vine

Hello to everyone,
I just got 20 gandaria seedlings yesterday evening and are extremely excited about growing them. However, I never grow these trees prior and needed a lot of help, information on how to grow these successfully in Riverside, California, Zone 9B. I love the young fruits of gandaria to make gandaria hot sauce but since I cannot travel due to covid19, I decided to try growing these to see if I can get any fruits in several years. The seedling are all between 1-2 feet talls and I temporary put the bigger ones on a bin because I found out that their roots are pretty long and did not fit in a gallon container ( the seller told me the seedlings are only 12 inches tall). Any tips ?

Here is some TIPS!
Pandan grow fast in humidity but here in SoCal, we do not have as much humidity, so you have to water over the plant to help create its humidity. Pandan (Pandanus Amaryllifolius) - wheather you plant in soil or wide pot, plant it under shade (tree or near wall). if you water twice a day, it quick spread and creates babies (especially in soil and please give room). Pandan does not tolerate winter - so I usually dig my pandan out and put the, in wide pots (5 gallon up) and bring them indoor. As long as the soil is moist and the leaves are misted, my pandan will create babies even indoor. I use pandan leaves regularly - in cake, green bean soup (dessert) and coconut rice. Pandan also a natural repellent for cockroaches - they hate the smell. Where my mom live, pandan grow like weeds - so she plug them and put them all over the house

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: My small fruit tree orchard
« on: June 30, 2020, 10:31:06 AM »
very nice orchard you you have there. Wish I have the more space like yours - my tiny yards are full and overcrowded like a jungle.
And if you plant those pandan under a mature tree - with some humidity, it spreads extremely fast. My California weather is more dry, only 10-20% humidity, so it barely crawl. But my mom's pandan spread all over her yard - the location that she lives has more than 50% humidity.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WANTED: kumquats
« on: June 29, 2020, 06:56:19 AM »
I still have some Nagami kumquats fruits on my tree. My kumquats usually get harvested in February but this year its extended itself. I have seedlings that sprouts around the yard but not sure if they are actually kumquats or Yuzu. PM me if you want some fresh seeds or couple fruits ( at this time of year, the kumquats off the tree is not as sweet as in couple months ago but seed should not have problem sproutings).

If there is an asia market nearby that sell kangkong, you can try growing it from its cutting (stems). I done it successfully several times. But seeds are readily available at ebay or Etsy.

Looking for Eugenia Polyantha Wight - seedlings, cuttings or fresh seeds - U.S ONLY PLEASE!
Other botanical name:Syzygium polyanthum (Wight) Waplers
Common name:
Dutch   Indonesisch laurierblad, Daon salam, Daoen salam, Salamblad
German   Indonesisches Lorbeerblatt
Indonesian   Salam, Daun salam, Manting
Malay   Kelat samak, Samak, Serah, Daun salam

Willing to trade or purchase. Anybody know where I can get/buy/trade for this plant? Any information will be helpful. Thank you.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: June 29, 2020, 04:25:13 AM »
Check the stems of your rose apple - see if there is any nicks or barks shredding in some area. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: June 29, 2020, 04:12:37 AM »
Greeting to everyone from Riverside, California!
My nickname is IB and since I grew up on the equator, edible tropical fruits and vegetable are my passion. Being a gardener for over 20 years, my garden collections have sideline from tropical fruits to tropical vegetables as well. Aside from gardening, my hobbies include cooking and travelling (temporary halted due to Covid 19). Here is a list of what trees/plants that I have growing:

Fruit trees:
Passion fruits (2 varieties)
Mango (2 varieties)
Strawberry papaya
Suebella Sapote
Dwarf Banana
Saturn Donut Peach
Jujube (Li and 1 unknown species)
Rose Apple (Green, Semarang)
Guavas (Strawberry, Lemon and Thai -white)
Persimmon (Fuyu and Haciya)
Apple (Red Era)

Citrus Collection(I live in a citrus county-LOL):
Tangerine ( 2 varieties)
Cocktail Grapefruit (orange color flesh)
Thornless Mexican lime
Keiffer Lime
Nasnaran (Limau) lime
Nagami Kumquat

Ginger collection:
Butterfly ginger
Tumeric (curcuma longa)
Sand ginger (kencur/peacock ginger)

Vegetable collections:
Eggplants (7 varieties)
Peppers (At least 40+ varieties - sweet and hot)
Beans (15+ varieties)
Squash (6+ varieties)
Tomatoes (15+ varieties)
Cucumber (5 varieties)
Basil (4 varieties)

Roots plants:
Yam (red and white)

lemon grass
Laurel bay
Garlic chieves
Giant garlic
Pandanus Amaryllifolius
Inedible trees/Plants:
Palms (queen, pigmy, fan, bottle, sago)
Giant bird of paradise.

Most of my collections are for cooking and food. In fact, my first gardening experience started with a bag of left over potatoes. I left them too long and they started to have buds.Thus, I throw them in my backyard soil and 3 months later I got 4x more potatoes that can lasted more than 2 months left in kitchen. Ever since then, I love using the soil as storage for food. Over the years, I wanted more colors in my yards, yet stick to edibles  and I achieve my goals by introducing a variety blend of plants. For example, my bell pepper collection (orange,black, lilac, chocolate, yellow, red, green, ivory), french bean ( dragon tongue, blue lake, Trionfo Violetto, scarlet emperor, gold rush, cheerokee wax, royal burgundy). The beans not only have different colors but the flowers are different colors too, very pleasing to the eyes. This way, I never envy a flower garden anymore. If you google the flower of red era apple, the peach blossom, and the necta-plum blossoms, they are as beautiful as cherry blossoms. I used to have a green gage plum to contrast the peach blossoms but since the tree was no longer productive due to its age, I replace it with other tree. I believe life should be beautiful as well as productive. Bye for now and Cheers!


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