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Interesting..       do you have some links ?
Do the darker are more or less cold hardy than the yellow green Sechium ?

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Sechium edule dark skin variety
« on: December 29, 2021, 08:56:06 AM »
Bonjour :)

Recently, going to the supermarket, I spot some Sechium edule with darker skin that I use to see in grocery ( and even in some gardens ). Does anyone know what are differencies between dark and light skin varieties ?  ( Taste ? Amidon content ? Ability to grow in dry/wet soil ?  ..   )

Additional informations : The ones I bought were from Costa Rica. And the embryo seems smaller that the ones on commonly seen varieties - it starts to grow, that's the reason I can tell it looks smaller.

Thank for these neaty informations.
Do you know if 'Oroblanco' can withstand some degrees of frost ?

Hmmm..      It confirms that it could be very similar to 'Oroblanco' from cutting, graft. ( I assume there are probably some little differences..  but maybe not at all ).
Now, I would like to know how is it possible for a triploid tree to set a fruit with seeds inside ?
A particular mutation that permitted to restore fertility ? 

Thank you for the advice. I will keep an eye on it.

Obviously, yes..     I neglected it a bit    :-[
For the moment, since we are not in vegetative period, I won't give it anything special ( I keep it in a more or less 10 Celsius degrees garage, near a window ).


Here are two pics of the same specimen that I have grown from a seed from a grapefruit 'Sweetie'

I cannot be more explicit than the title. I found, three years ago now, two seeds in a pomelo 'Sweetie' ( aka 'Oroblanco' if it's exactly the same ).
I was wondering how it could be possible since it's a triploid variety (?)
And if my plant ( I could just keep one, other died prematurely ) will give the same fruit that the seeds came from ?

Any information, based on experiences, about this variety ( Oroblanco ) interest me.

PS : I don't have a picture showing my plant from this seed, but I will add it  later, if it can be useful.

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Chiletepin
« on: October 06, 2021, 09:02:43 AM »
It's a very interesting testimony that you offer Pokeweed !

When I say, I aim to improve Chiltepin, it's not because I find they are mediocre, but rather because I found that they unfit with my climate, soil,..  and I want to see how frost hardiness traits can be transmitted to next generations.
Other exemple of plant I like, but doesn't seem to like my soil: Chilopsis. That's the reason why I graft this species on x Chitalpa ( it self grafted on Catalpa rootstock - Catalpa species grow very well here  )

Looking a bit around for some more info about this chilies, I have found that it sets much more fruits in presence of some mycorrhizae like Glomus fasciculatus.  Maybe they are absent in my area..

Hi !
Here I come to exchange my chili peppers 'Espelette' against cold hardy Chiltepin seeds ( Capsicum annuum var. glabriusculum ) - seeds from plants that grow in cold winter area and which grow back after cold spell, snow,..
Or against Peritoma arborea, Salvia clevelandii, Justicia californica,..   seeds.

Here is the 'Espelette' Chili peppers ( an old heirloom variety from Basque country, easy to dry out and hang them - you can see many images on Google about that.

They tasted great, I could eat hundreds..   unfortunately there was not so many fruits.. and since I had to collect seeds from them, I couldn't eat more :/

I will keep you up to date on this thread, if the seeds come true. Others forumers who received seeds from me could also tell us if they get triangular fruits from their plants..

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Chiletepin
« on: October 03, 2021, 04:05:14 AM »
Hummmm..       Chiletepin seems a bit fussy compare to others cultivated Capsicum..
My climate is not as hot than in southern part of Texas, but we get pretty high temperature in summer ( up to 37 degrees this year, and sometimes 40C - However it seems it's maybe not enough hot for rattlers, the reason of their absence :p )
Maybe the blossom is numbered to the day length..  like suggests Walt..
Anyway, as soon as possible I will try a cross with other Casicum annuum.

Maybe some of you have more domesticated Casicum annuum var. Glabriusculum ?

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Chiletepin
« on: September 30, 2021, 05:07:57 PM »

I start this post to know more about Chiletepin ( Capsicum annum var. glabriusculum )
I have three plant of this variety, and I don't really understand what it likes : I have a plant in full sun that does not grow..   an other beneath shade of taller plants, it grows but doesn't flower, and the last is in pot in semi shade, it grows, but is a shy bloomer..   and all my three plants have +1 year.
I thought it could set thousands of fruits, as considered as a weed sometimes, but in reality, it's the fussiest chili pepper that I have grown. ( In comparaison my Capsicum praetermissum in a neglected pot, produces many fruits )

How do you grow them  ?  Do they are frost hardy ? ( Do they really regrow )



With only a few fruit set, each fruit no more than 5mm, maybe only one seed inside. How long before one could even get enough fruit to actually evaluate the taste, or enough seeds to perpetuate the variety?

You may have never taken the time out to examine this species, because it can sets hundreds of these tiny fruits.
And, the big plus, it's a perennial species, so once it is planted you can expect more and more fruits each year.
But like all plants, all of this is true with the correct environment..

About the size, I have Capsicum praetermissum that sets small fruits too, but since one of this per dish can be enough, one plant producer is enough for a person/year.


Just two photos to introduce this particular species which is say to be able to resist to temps below freezing ( -10 C and more ).
This year will be their ( I have two plants)  first year outdoor, sure it will be fine, but still a bit anxious: they are Capsicum after all (!)
Like others wild Capsicum species, it took time to set fruits ( more than a year ), and my other plant have done nothing - I noticed that Capsicum flexuosum dislike our full sun, and prefer filter sun, or a good shade, and maybe that's the reason why the second plant, more exposed didn't set any flower.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado tree in 8b zone
« on: September 11, 2021, 10:51:11 AM »

I visited an avocado tree that I know for few years now, and it is gorgeous, so I wanted to share a photo.
There is no avocados on the tree, but it usually sets fruits ( pear shape, with a not so smooth skin ).

Ps : it thrives in a shelter place, and to give a scale, the fence is at least 2 meters high.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Passiflora edulis 'Norfolk'
« on: September 07, 2021, 02:21:58 PM »
Hi everyone,

Do you know this variety ( P. edulis 'Norfolk' ) ?
I read it tastes sweeter than the regular Passiflora edulis..
Anyone can confirm ?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Banana identification.. any ID ?
« on: September 05, 2021, 10:19:51 PM »
Here is a pic of the bananas ( nearly mature since the "flower stem" is already long )

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Banana identification.. any ID ?
« on: September 05, 2021, 10:16:46 PM »
I came across this banana that makes me think of a Da Jiao variety. What do you think about this ?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this fruit?
« on: September 05, 2021, 11:02:23 AM »
Yes it is. Ginkgo biloba fruits. They are still unripe indeed.
I have already seen them in an Asian market, just the seeds without flesh around, and it might be buy to be roasted ( I've never tried indeed )

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare French Red Plantain Flag Leaf NWFL
« on: September 05, 2021, 10:33:28 AM »
Happy to put a name on this banana :)
It is fairly distinctive from the others that grow here. Big, red stems, petioles and even the base of the leaves.
Keep us up to date with this strain. I am curious to see how it can handle frost, freeze.
What is your minimal temps in winter ?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare French Red Plantain Flag Leaf NWFL
« on: September 04, 2021, 09:35:44 PM »
I see something similar here, in Guadeloupe island. If you have any information, please let a comment

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: covid 19 and herbs ect
« on: September 04, 2021, 11:00:32 AM »
Here is one pic of the plant that is used against covid here, by locals. See my previous message on this same post.
PS: I still ignore is name ! Sorry. ( Maybe it's Pluchea carolinensis..   )

Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: covid 19 and herbs ect
« on: August 28, 2021, 08:21:42 PM »

Here, in French West Indies ( Guadeloupe and Martinique, but not in French Guyana ), there is an herb called Neurolaena lobata that is used for several ailments.
With Covid-19 crisis, some studies had been made showing a positive results against this virus.
Unfortunately, I didn't find significant articles in English.. 

I will post pics if you are interested.

Kyoho variety seems mythical..  I wonder why..   due to the size of the grains ? Their taste ? The fact they come from Japan ( hence the name, I suppose ) where fruits are considers like precious things ?
Do there are several clones of Kyoho ?

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