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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 21, 2022, 07:21:56 PM »
Thanks Scott.   :D. Have a great weekend.

 I will keep the progress updated in 6-8 weeks.

The buddy tape being sold in this thread is a much higher qualty tape than parafilm or generic grafting tape.  Those tapes do have their place and work fine for a lot of grafting work.  But its not the same stuff.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 21, 2022, 06:37:11 PM »
I probably should have left the tops on, but the window of opportunity to graft here is so narrow, if these fail I will have to wait a year anyway so it doesnt really matter.  They will bush back out if the grafts fail. 

Im pretty confident the grafts will work though so hopefully not too many redos.  The failed grafts from last year had multiple smaller brwnches bushing out and for those i did 2-3 cleft grafts which should almost guarantee success. 

Im sure most people dont do their plantings this way.  Plant a field of seedlings then top work.  Most farms use container grafted plants.  But for me it seems easier to do this way even if it takes multiple tries, doesnt really matter.  The rootstock continues to grow even if a top work attempt is unsuccessful, I can pick up again the following winter.  I tried to stress this point to some people.  You are not wasting time letting rootstocks grow in ground for many years.  It really makes little difference if you top work them in 1, 2, 3 years.  The roots continue growing and once you top work them, the above ground portion always comes right back after 1 summer of growth.  The size of the rootsystem determines how fast the scion grows. 

From what I see a roll is no more that 12$ or some give you 2 rolls and a knife for 16$ shipped to your door. For me it's a no Brainer and very affordable.

That doeant sound right.  Its not buddy tape for that price. Post a link if you have one.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Avocado scions
« on: January 20, 2022, 11:00:07 PM »
those nabal plants look awesome.  great tree. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 20, 2022, 10:49:20 PM »
I dont know, most people I know that tried Sharwil grown in CA thought it was one of the better ones they had tried.  It seems to produce well one year then nothing for another year or 2.  The irregular fruiting may end up sucking.  If it becomes a problem, I will switch them to reed.

I tried a kahaluu the other day.  Was ok but nothing special.  It was the first fruit the tree produced though so who knows.  Flavor wasnt that great to me.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 20, 2022, 03:10:04 PM »
i top worked 40 or so sharwils last week.  havent decided what to put in the new space.  maybe some cherimoyas and some avocados.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Avocado scions
« on: January 20, 2022, 11:53:41 AM »
ok everyone.  Last shipmentnext week.  My trees are cut too much and the buds are almost past prime.  So this is going to be it for the years. 


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 20, 2022, 12:08:58 AM »
the cambium layer is there right below the bark.  I think theres cambium tissue on the bark and the wood when you do this and it should give maximum cambium contact area. 

but I could have it all wrong and it may end up being a big fail.  Time will tell.  Someone with more knowledge could give us better insight on this.

I am not at all an expert on grafting.  Just good enough to get lucky sometimes with the avocados.  they are definitely not as easy as some other types of trees. 

if the scion and rootstocks are the same or close in diameter I do a cleft and match one side really well instead of this type of graft. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 19, 2022, 10:00:33 PM »
good to hear cause Im winging it.  Was banging them out in record time.  About 2-3 minutes per tree.  no graft tape on the union, just flagging tape. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado graft pics
« on: January 19, 2022, 09:01:13 PM »
the peoples republic of california also granted me permission to burn an acre of brush.  So I did.  This will become a new block of trees.  Will have it planted out by summer. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Avocado graft pics
« on: January 19, 2022, 08:47:44 PM »
Hope this one works because I did about 100 of them like it.  Ive done them in the past but not enough to know if its highly successful.  Was the best I could come up with for the size of the rootstocks. 

Obviously the graft is not yet wrapped in the photo.  Just showing the cuts made. 

if you live somewhere cold you may need to wait longer to try this one.  The bark was slipping on most of my rootstocks but a few were not yet. 

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Avocado scions
« on: January 19, 2022, 07:36:31 PM »
I dont know whats going on in Texas but the packages are taking 5,6,7 days for a 2-3 day priority service.

Just a PSA, shipments are not going well to TX.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar Cane Juicer
« on: January 19, 2022, 06:42:20 PM »
ebay has them that ship from in the US.  Theres tons of people selling them there.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cherimoya seed packs
« on: January 18, 2022, 10:26:47 AM »
it seems like you need to have the seeds buried in dirt a bit so when the plant pops up it can pull itself out of the seed. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Root Feeding: Yea Or Nay?
« on: January 17, 2022, 07:57:34 PM »
Sounds like a bad idea but Im not an arborist  ???

Maybe try some good old fasioned compost or manures?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cherimoya seed packs
« on: January 17, 2022, 07:48:21 PM »
Others seem to have good success with fresh seeds.   You dont necessarily need to wait a year, just that Ive always used old seeds and know its not a problem.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cherimoya seed packs
« on: January 17, 2022, 06:35:55 PM »
Ok, great news.  I also started a bunch of seeds around the same time and have most of them germinated now as well.  Was wondering how your seed sprouting went.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Reed avocado, welcomed surprise
« on: January 16, 2022, 02:09:44 PM »
Sometimes they are not always super round.  Mine are often shaped that way too.  It looks like its not that ripe though Carlos.

Young reed trees tend to drop the fruit early and not get super ripe u til the tree ages.  The loose seed is indication its not fully ripe.  The flesh will turn more yellow if you can get them to ha g longer. 

I purchased Vittelaria paradoxa from Oscar Jaitt / Fruit's Lover. Probably the worst seller I ever dealled with. He shipped the seeds in normal courier which took more than two months to arrive. Seeds arrived totally roten. When you are a pro you know these species need to be planted fastly and cannot travel for a while (like clove, cocoa, etc..) Asked for refund, no news.

It seems to me that this is not a completely fair statement. I recently bought seeds from Oscar, additionally paid for express delivery, the purchase amount was more than 1 thousand dollars, so I asked Oscar to indicate in the declaration the amount of 200 dollars to avoid customs duties in Russia. The parcel arrived to me 18 days after being shipped from the USA. All seeds are in good condition. I think you yourself made a mistake by not paying for express delivery.

1000$ ?

Zutano rootstocks work fine. 

I dont have any potted trees but gwen and pinkerton make loads of fruit on small trees.  Also superior flavors.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB sugar dragon cuttings
« on: January 12, 2022, 10:30:19 PM »
Yeah I have those.  I can cut as many as you want i planted a ton of that.  Not a great time of year to start cuttings though u less its really warm there?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harvesting Sugar Cane
« on: January 12, 2022, 06:53:19 PM »
way easier to use a sugatcane press and then boil it down if your goal is to make syrup.  One 6ft cane makes about a pint of super sweet juice. 

the also sell a hand tool for peeling it like a carrot.  makes it much easier if you want to eat it. 

What you need to do to make the grafts more robust on any tree is cut back the ungrafted portion so that it has to also grow back with the new grafts.  If theres a big honking rest of the tree there to use all the energy, its not going to get distributed well to the graft. 

Also for what its worth, its way easier to do what you are doing while the trees are small.  Once the tree gets larger its even more difficult to multigraft or top work cherimoyas. 

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