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Citrus General Discussion / Can budwood from the CCPP be cloned?
« on: May 22, 2023, 10:06:12 AM »
I'm thinking of creating an aerocloner.

I do not have the rootstock to graft all the varieties I want and frankly I'm nervous of grafting as I've never done it.

Citrus General Discussion / Help me pick a mandarin / satsuma
« on: May 06, 2023, 03:58:01 AM »
zone 8
things I want:
sweet and deep, balanced flavored (some tartness), deep orange flesh, zipper peel

ripens OCT-early DEC and hardy (as satsumas go)

Lee x Nova (top contender but might ripen too late?)
Okitsu wase (original choice)
dobashi beni
xie shan

Feel free to make a recommendation or give experiences too

some seeds are fine, flavor and ripening are the concerns here

Citrus General Discussion / Best tasting italian lemon ?
« on: April 27, 2023, 07:29:10 AM »
I don't think I've ever tried any Italian lemons straight but I find what I've heard about them from gushy cooking recipes and magazines very appealing.

I'm thinking of buying a tree but can't decide which to get:
Santa teresa, genoa, feminello, interdonato etc etc.
Is there a difference with them between whats sold in a given US store or just hype?

I was looking at a citrus tree called "sugarbelle":
this thing has absurd rights on it copied from the everbrite site below:

"“Sugar Belle® ‘LB8-9’ (U.S. Patent PP21,356) -Propagation prohibited by law. Trees and fruit may not be resold or distributed.”"

I can't even buy this plant and am just window shopping however having a plant I can legally get sued for sharing scions of due to IP isn't appealing even in my fantasy garden world.  This isn't anything new of course (this tree is an old release) but for NEWBIES this is intimidating.

But what if I used the pollen or seeds from this tree to breed something? Is that also patented?

According to Tennessee Extension this is fine so long as there isn't a total resemblance:
"What would happen if I allowed my patented
brambles to go to seed and instead of buying
plants the following year, I plant the seeds from
the previous year?"
"This is NOT considered infringement BUT there is
the risk of claims of infringement if the resulting
plants are similar to the patented parent plants.

So until further notice as long as your plant has distinguishing characteristics from the patent its offspring should be fine and IP free

Patents aren't the only type of IP protection though.  "Utility plants" and "Plant Variety Protection" plants cannot be used sexually. Utility plants are often GMO according to Tennesee extension.

Please tell me if i'm wrong!
I'm not well versed in legalese but for hobbyist breeders and hopefuls like me who find plant patents intimidating I hope this helps. Sugar belle has HLB resistance and fungal resistance that may make it an interesting parent for citrus breeders.
Mineolas mostly arent nucellar and with its clementine heritage maybe it won't breed true either so hopefully clones are less of an issue.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Dunstan citrumelo and Carolina lime?
« on: March 15, 2023, 07:14:34 PM »
Anyone have these or seeds of them?

Cold Hardy Citrus / How to keep citrus alive in winter? Zone 8b/7
« on: September 21, 2022, 02:43:45 PM »

this year I acquired 2 citrus trees: a meyer and harvey lemon. They're about 1.5-2 feet tall and in smallish containers.

How do I keep them alive with coming winter, I don't have a green house.

Can plants like these go dormant?  do I cover them with clear plastic?

I have heard of using christmas lights wrapped around them stems for warmth I think.

Long story short I picked up a cheap, miniature blooming meyer lemon from Pikes. I want to graft to it after it grows out a bit.

Could a meyer be used as grafting stock for other citrus (oranges, limes, kumquat etc)?

Are there particular species to focus on (because of rejection/ performance)?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Citrangequat 19-15-7
« on: April 09, 2022, 10:16:18 AM »
A more attractive tree than either Sinton or Thomasville. Fruit slightly larger than Thomasville, much larger than Sinton; darker orange rind color than Thomasville, not quite as dark as Sinton. As an ornamental, this one would be my choice over Sinton & Thomasville. None of the 3 are really edible but this one is nearest to edible in my opinion.

This is pretty good praise to me given Thomasville is mentioned as one of the best poncirus descendants.

Has anyone had experience with this? How is its flavor and hardiness?
I did a search but didn't see any comments.

I had ice tea from stalls there where they used a small green peel but orange fleshed citrus fruit. Never tasted on straight but it was akin to a sour orange, somewhat floral iirc.

Citrus General Discussion / Is kiyomi worth growing for fruit?
« on: March 20, 2022, 06:11:48 PM »
its a parent for many famous Japanese cultivars but how's its fruit and hardiness qualities on their own?

Citrus General Discussion / How toast is this?
« on: March 14, 2022, 04:03:55 PM »
I'm a little heart broken about losing this grafted poncirus sapling. I went on vacation (1 week) and dropped it outside with its kin and when I came back it was toast. One was wintered outside & this one was dormant inside before I brought it out. I think the rain & sudden cold front took it out. Do you think any of it survived?
The other one is fine but leafless (long been like that) but the scion on that one died to a nub so hopes arent high.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Cold hardy lemons
« on: February 10, 2022, 06:13:35 PM »
Anyone ever bred a cold hardy lemon or close substitute?
What would be some good cultivars for starting a cold hardy lemon - for example hamlin is a hardier orange that also ripens before frost so what would be its lemon equivalent.

UGA has the grand frost lemon, which has an ichang lemon base.

I remember I liked the ichang lemon but from what I remember it it wasn't as sour as a standard lemon. Yuzu just didn't have enough flavor for me. Its been some time since I tried either one directly so let me know if your experience differs.

Citrus General Discussion / How to sprout citrus seeds?
« on: February 08, 2022, 12:02:30 AM »
I've got some citrus seeds in the fridge, I've treated them with a light copper based fungicide and soap wash.

How should I go about sprouting them in a way that minimizes problems as I've noticed major issues in regards to molding when Ive tried citrus in the past

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / WTB: Ventura Lemandarin seeds
« on: January 24, 2022, 03:47:43 PM »
Looking to get my paws on some Ventura lemandarin seeds  :blank:

Cold Hardy Citrus / Citrus soil mix for pots
« on: January 24, 2022, 03:43:38 PM »
I know its supposed to be well draining, what are some alternatives to turface I can use for a good mix?

Citrus General Discussion / Kumquat as rootstock?
« on: November 22, 2021, 08:54:58 AM »
Hello all!

Basically I'm wondering if kumquat can be used as a rootstock for other citrus types and what problems or benefits could come from that? I can't find a lot of info off google

Froom my limited knowledge poncirus seems to be the go-to for mass compatibility so if compatibility is an issue could PT be can intergraft?

looking for healthy cuttings of different pereskia & quiabentia species + pereskiopsis spathula (or others) for grafting

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Wanted: Desert lime (Citrus glauca) seeds
« on: November 09, 2021, 10:01:55 AM »
Does anyone have a source for these in the USA?

Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / deleted
« on: November 09, 2021, 10:00:06 AM »
wrong place lol

I have NO prior experience with grafting.

What would be a low cost way to practice with the skill? Any ideas for plant sources (scions & rootstock) to start with or cheaper ways to get practice in?

 I don't want to break the bank on a nice piece of wood that'd I have no clue how to graft  :o :P

Tropical Fruit Discussion / pietros pawpaws
« on: April 01, 2021, 07:23:51 PM »
Found a couple of different sources mentioning a specialist nursery in FL that sold various Asimina species that are basically non-existent on the market.
And it seems to have been closed for god knows how long, unfortunately.

Does anyone have a trail on where we can buy the other asiminas outside of A. Triloba and A. parviflora (which in itself is rare)?

Fridge not freezer.
Long story short I have a a ton of seeds - most entirely orthodox / non-recalcitrant seeds and many need stratification.
I think a mini fridge would be a good idea to invest in to store them (basically off this and other things ive read

Does storing tropicals in a fridge tend to extend their 'shelf life' or further damage them? Or is it just a toss up between recalcitrant species

In title: I want better naranjilla fruit than what is commonly found on US seed market.

Any ideas where i can get some?

I found some names of improved commercial(?) varieties from equador with names like "dulce" and "baeza"

Hello all:

Does anyone know what citrus fruit has the most beta-carotene?

I know of the 'berry purple' of anthrocyanins and the lycopene of cara caras but have there been any studies into beta carotenes pigment levels in the genus.

And has anyone ever seen an orange pomelo? All the ones I know of (very few) are 'white' or pink. I came across one in a web search but I'm assuming its an altered photo but if not I'd love to try and breed this as an amateur if possible.

hello everyone! I'm looking for cosmos caudatus - its eaten in indomalay cultures but from and found in the Americas.
An American source would be appreciated.

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